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Thread: Fox Sports: If Jason Garrett coaches like he did Sunday, the Cowboys will have a playoff disaster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    At that point in the game our defense was really giving Winston fits. Garrett fully understood the ebb and flow of the game...at that point our defense was playing great, so play smart offensively and let your D close it out. I have a hard time understanding how that could be perceived as poor situational awareness...it was flawless situational awareness. I know that because his game management at that point worked perfectly.
    After the Witten dumbass fumble we put our defense in a really tough situation. They impressed the hell out of me coming out there right away and getting another stop. There are weeks where the defense is soft as shit but the end of that Tampa game was not one of them. Which was a nice surprise after they were shredded on the first two possessions of the second half. Would have been really easy to tuck tail at that point on defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    At that point in the game our defense was really giving Winston fits. Garrett fully understood the ebb and flow of the game...at that point our defense was playing great, so play smart offensively and let your D close it out. I have a hard time understanding how that could be perceived as poor situational awareness...it was flawless situational awareness. I know that because his game management at that point worked perfectly.
    Yep.

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    The 4th and 1 call was totally fine.

    It was the bullshit reverses they kept trying and the lack of any deep shots whatsoever that blew my mind.

    When you don't stretch the defense it forces more plays to go the same distance. That's more chances to be penalized. The OL is great, but they aren't superheroes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genghis Khan View Post
    I understand wanting to go for it there, but it certainly wasn't stupid to kick the field goal.
    No it was not stupid. Despite everyone rallying in support of having our defense "close it out", I am still very concerned about that unit. Let's face it, I feel that we have been using smoke and mirrors with that defensive unit. They are capable of giving up massive yards against the pass. Their QB was easily capable of marching that group down the field in 3 throws and put up the TD.

    Having some new faces show up even periodically from our defensive line to put on pressure is helping my mental state regarding the defense. They still have me extremely nervous. Good QBs can chew up that unit. They have pleasantly surprised me at times suggesting the coordinator is working magic or is in league with the devil.

    I want more than 7 points late in the game because a TD can be thrown up on us in a heart beat. From that perspective the play was giving up on our elite offensive line and running back. Get the first down and kill more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMech View Post
    No it was not stupid. Despite everyone rallying in support of having our defense "close it out", I am still very concerned about that unit. Let's face it, I feel that we have been using smoke and mirrors with that defensive unit. They are capable of giving up massive yards against the pass. Their QB was easily capable of marching that group down the field in 3 throws and put up the TD.

    Having some new faces show up even periodically from our defensive line to put on pressure is helping my mental state regarding the defense. They still have me extremely nervous. Good QBs can chew up that unit. They have pleasantly surprised me at times suggesting the coordinator is working magic or is in league with the devil.

    I want more than 7 points late in the game because a TD can be thrown up on us in a heart beat. From that perspective the play was giving up on our elite offensive line and running back. Get the first down and kill more time.
    My feeling is, making it a touchdown game rather than a field goal game was a big deal. Yes you leave yourself vulnerable if you do give up a touchdown, but if you don't make the 4th down conversion you've left yourself vulnerable to a field goal as well as a touchdown.

    It's a trade off so I think either decision would have been okay there. Garrett chose the conservative route and I think part of that is how well the defense had been playing and part of that is the opposing QB. I doubt Garrett makes the same decision if we're facing Brady/Brees/Rodgers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMech View Post
    No it was not stupid. Despite everyone rallying in support of having our defense "close it out", I am still very concerned about that unit. Let's face it, I feel that we have been using smoke and mirrors with that defensive unit. They are capable of giving up massive yards against the pass. Their QB was easily capable of marching that group down the field in 3 throws and put up the TD.

    Having some new faces show up even periodically from our defensive line to put on pressure is helping my mental state regarding the defense. They still have me extremely nervous. Good QBs can chew up that unit. They have pleasantly surprised me at times suggesting the coordinator is working magic or is in league with the devil.

    I want more than 7 points late in the game because a TD can be thrown up on us in a heart beat. From that perspective the play was giving up on our elite offensive line and running back. Get the first down and kill more time.
    You make it sound easy to put up 7 on our defense and yet we are rated fourth in the NFL in scoring defense. Sometimes I wonder if fans don't realize how hard it is in the NFL to just totally shut down an offense the entire game. I'm in favor of going for it because of our O-line and RB but I don't think Dallas is somehow extra susceptible to giving up TD's compared to the rest of the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    You make it sound easy to put up 7 on our defense and yet we are rated fourth in the NFL in scoring defense. Sometimes I wonder if fans don't realize how hard it is in the NFL to just totally shut down an offense the entire game. I'm in favor of going for it because of our O-line and RB but I don't think Dallas is somehow extra susceptible to giving up TD's compared to the rest of the league.
    We occasionally are able to kick it up a notch when we sell out rushing the passer. I think it all comes down to how much gas we have left in the tank, and with the TOP the offense chewed up Sunday we should have had a lot left.

    TOP also limits the opponent's ability to score, especially when we play a bend-don't-break style where we allow underneath plays and miss few tackles. The combination has been very effective.

    As long as we score on offense, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravidubey View Post
    The 4th and 1 call was totally fine.

    It was the bullshit reverses they kept trying and the lack of any deep shots whatsoever that blew my mind.

    When you don't stretch the defense it forces more plays to go the same distance. That's more chances to be penalized. The OL is great, but they aren't superheroes.
    Let me tell you why this is stupid.

    One of the key points that would be brought up with a passing game that does not stretch the field is that it would effect the run game...8 in the box, etc. The run game is not limited in any way, 2nd in the league with over 150 a game.

    Additionally, more offensive plays would mean more turnovers...right? No, we have only given up 13 turnovers.

    I think we all agreed coming into the season that our defense was our weak point. A good way to combat that is to control the clock, that way the defense does not spend as much time on the field. Coincidentally, we are 4th in the league in pts allowed with 18.4. Tied with Denver...a defense that is considered good to great.

    Even without stretching the field we are 4th in the league in scoring with 26.1.

    I understand the want to throw the ball deep, but the reality is we don't need to do it. The above points clearly show that.

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