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    North Korea to release 3 US citizens before meeting with Trump
    https://nypost.com/2018/05/02/north-...ng-with-trump/

    North Korea has released three US citizens who had been held prisoner by the communist dictatorship, the South Korean news agency Yonhap reported, citing a South Korean activist who lobbies for the release of detainees.

    The releases — which have not been confirmed by the State Department — would meet one of the Trump administration’s conditions before President Trump would meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    The three citizens— Kim Dong-chul, Kim Sang-duk and Kim Hak-song — were freed from a labor camp and given health care and ideological indoctrination in Pyongyang, according to a report in the Financial Times.

    The detainees — who remain in North Korea but would be handed over prior to or during the summit — had been accused of espionage or “hostile acts.”

    “We heard it through our sources in North Korea late last month,” Choi Sung-ryong, the activist, told the Financial Times.

    “We believe that Mr. Trump can take them back on the day of the US-North Korea summit or he can send an envoy to take them back to the US before the summit.”

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pressed Kim about the detainees during the pair’s secret sitdown last month.

    In June, Otto Warmbier, an American college student who was arrested and held prisoner in North Korea, died just days after being returned to his family in the US while in a coma.
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    Not bad for an orange Nazi that's supposed to be leading us into WWIII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoDak View Post
    North Korea to release 3 US citizens before meeting with Trump
    https://nypost.com/2018/05/02/north-...ng-with-trump/

    North Korea has released three US citizens who had been held prisoner by the communist dictatorship, the South Korean news agency Yonhap reported, citing a South Korean activist who lobbies for the release of detainees.

    The releases — which have not been confirmed by the State Department — would meet one of the Trump administration’s conditions before President Trump would meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    The three citizens— Kim Dong-chul, Kim Sang-duk and Kim Hak-song — were freed from a labor camp and given health care and ideological indoctrination in Pyongyang, according to a report in the Financial Times.

    The detainees — who remain in North Korea but would be handed over prior to or during the summit — had been accused of espionage or “hostile acts.”

    “We heard it through our sources in North Korea late last month,” Choi Sung-ryong, the activist, told the Financial Times.

    “We believe that Mr. Trump can take them back on the day of the US-North Korea summit or he can send an envoy to take them back to the US before the summit.”

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pressed Kim about the detainees during the pair’s secret sitdown last month.

    In June, Otto Warmbier, an American college student who was arrested and held prisoner in North Korea, died just days after being returned to his family in the US while in a coma.
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    Not bad for an orange Nazi that's supposed to be leading us into WWIII.
    No matter how pompous he may be as an individual one cannot deny that he is working in the best interest of the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mschmidt64 View Post
    Yeah, I think this is reasonable.

    I think Trump is a little unhinged, and he's completely unPresidential in trading barbs with the head of state of another independent country like that.

    But yeah, it does seem to have worked. Let's not pretend that he simply scared NK into cooperation because they think he might be crazy enough to Nuke them. It was a combination of good cop/bad cop. It was part willingness to deploy conventional forces against them. It was part unprecedented willingness to sell himself to them as a deal maker.

    And China too. This was kinda a very crude "Only Nixon Can Go To China," moment. Nixon, cause he was such a staunch anti-communist, was seen as the only guy who could strike a deal with the Chinese with any credibility at the time. Now Trump has kinda sold himself as the ultimate dealmaker.

    And to an extent, he's delivering on that. He apparently has sold the Chinese on a deal to increase pressure on the North Koreans. He's gonna pull out of a bunch of trade deals to find better deals; and don't think that wasn't part of his leverage against China.

    I mean, it's kinda crazy, but it looks right now like Donald Trump is actually somewhat effective at making some of these international deals, and it's because he gives fuck all what people think about what he says or does.

    And for what it's worth, I don't think it's all Donald Trump. I think there are some very smart conservative policy makers who've wanted to do this stuff for a long time, but were never green-lighted to break the status quo by the Bush or Obama administrations. Well, Trump didn't figure all this out on his own, but in his desire to be unconventional, I think he's green-lighted some unconventional stuff that is actually working.

    So yeah he does deserve some credit. Not cause he figured it out, but because he was arrogant enough to take the risks that are paying off.
    I think the most impressive part to me, is the way they got South Korea and China to really help this situation.

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    TRUMP’S TAX CUTS DIDN’T BENEFIT U.S. WORKERS, MADE RICH COMPANIES RICHER, ANALYSIS FINDS

    President Donald Trump’s corporate tax cuts might not have trickled down to American workers in the way that he suggested they would.

    Trump and Republican leadership have long touted their tax cuts as a massive boon to America’s working class, if not through direct tax reductions or refunds, then through the trickle-down effect of bonuses and wage increases from their employers who receive massive corporate cuts. “Tax reform is working,” Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan said in January, mentioning Apple’s decision to reward a bonus of $2,500 in stock grants to some Apple employees. “Workers are coming home and telling their families they got a bonus, or they got a raise or they got better benefits.”

    But a new analysis of all Fortune 500 companies found only 4.3 percent of workers will receive a one-time bonus or wage increase tied to the business tax cuts, while businesses received nine times more in cuts than what they passed on to their workers, according to Americans for Tax Fairness, a political advocacy group devoted to tax reform. The analysis also found that companies spent 37 times as much on stock buybacks than they did on bonuses and increased wages for workers.

    The study looked at corporate data, news reports and independent analyses of the top companies in the United States, which represent more than two-thirds of the gross domestic product, and analyzed changes in wages and share buybacks since the announcement of the Republican tax plan in December.

    “There are too many disingenuous claims that the Trump and Republican tax cuts for corporations will trickle down to the middle class,” said Frank Clemente, executive director of Americans for Tax Fairness. “President Trump and Republicans gave huge tax cuts to big drug companies, big oil and other corporations, but corporations are giving back little—if anything—to working families,” said Clemente. “In fact, this [analysis shows] that 433 corporations out of the Fortune 500 have announced no plans to share their tax cuts with employees.”

    The newest projections by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that the Republican tax plan led to, in part, a 2018 deficit $242 billion higher than previously estimated.

    Roughly 36 percent of Americans approve of the Republican tax cuts, according to a March Quinnipiac University Poll and a CNBC poll found that 52 percent of working adults said they had not seen a change to their paychecks since the cuts were passed.

    In January, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said 90 percent of all working adults would see increases in their paychecks because of the cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    Yeah I'm pretty sure the party that let Otto Warmbier be tortured should shut the fuck up about this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    President Donald Trump’s corporate tax cuts might not have trickled down to American workers in the way that he suggested they would.

    Trump and Republican leadership have long touted their tax cuts as a massive boon to America’s working class, if not through direct tax reductions or refunds, then through the trickle-down effect of bonuses and wage increases from their employers who receive massive corporate cuts. “Tax reform is working,” Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan said in January, mentioning Apple’s decision to reward a bonus of $2,500 in stock grants to some Apple employees. “Workers are coming home and telling their families they got a bonus, or they got a raise or they got better benefits.”

    But a new analysis of all Fortune 500 companies found only 4.3 percent of workers will receive a one-time bonus or wage increase tied to the business tax cuts, while businesses received nine times more in cuts than what they passed on to their workers, according to Americans for Tax Fairness, a political advocacy group devoted to tax reform. The analysis also found that companies spent 37 times as much on stock buybacks than they did on bonuses and increased wages for workers.

    The study looked at corporate data, news reports and independent analyses of the top companies in the United States, which represent more than two-thirds of the gross domestic product, and analyzed changes in wages and share buybacks since the announcement of the Republican tax plan in December.

    “There are too many disingenuous claims that the Trump and Republican tax cuts for corporations will trickle down to the middle class,” said Frank Clemente, executive director of Americans for Tax Fairness. “President Trump and Republicans gave huge tax cuts to big drug companies, big oil and other corporations, but corporations are giving back little—if anything—to working families,” said Clemente. “In fact, this [analysis shows] that 433 corporations out of the Fortune 500 have announced no plans to share their tax cuts with employees.”

    The newest projections by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that the Republican tax plan led to, in part, a 2018 deficit $242 billion higher than previously estimated.

    Roughly 36 percent of Americans approve of the Republican tax cuts, according to a March Quinnipiac University Poll and a CNBC poll found that 52 percent of working adults said they had not seen a change to their paychecks since the cuts were passed.

    In January, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said 90 percent of all working adults would see increases in their paychecks because of the cuts.
    This is about as stupid an article as I have ever read. There is no way in hell to track the effect of the tax and company bonus activity at this time. There hasn’t even been one cycle pass so how can anyone make this claim. The bonuses that were paid by companies was so miniscule compared to the entire working group that it can’t even be determined whether there is any effect at this time.
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