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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    Um, from December 2017.
    You are not factoring the most important reason for this move. North Korea has made a move for discussions. Tillerson and Trump are not on the same page with this topic and it is too important to just keep a Secretary of State who isn’t on the same page. The move to install Pompeo is a good move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    This fucking president is so beholden to Russia for whatever reason that he won't even condemn them for using nerve agents to kill people in the UK, supposedly our greatest ally.

    Then Tillerson comes down hard on Russia and is fired.
    This is BS.
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    WOW.....Team Blue scores win in district Trump won by 20 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    WOW.....Team Blue scores win in district Trump won by 20 points.
    The real question is if dems learn anything from a close win running a pro-life, pro-gun candidate or if they just mindlessly chant " blue wave!!!" and double down on identity politics and socialism. I'm betting on the latter
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmith6919 View Post
    The real question is if dems learn anything from a close win running a pro-life, pro-gun candidate or if they just mindlessly chant " blue wave!!!" and double down on identity politics and socialism. I'm betting on the latter
    He doesn't personally believe in Abortion but wouldn't do anything to change the current law, i.e. Senator Bob Casey from PA. He does believe in expanded background checks.

    He is pro labor/unions, the Republicans ran a right to work candidate.
    He is a former Marine from the area. The Republican candidate said his opponent and all democrats (the district is majority registered democrats) hate God, guns and America.
    The President and the Republican candidate both slammed him for being a Pelosi, clone, when Lamb stated publicly that he thought it was time for Pelosi to go.

    You are right though, a candidate can't win in the rural parts of this state, (national or state level) and be super progressive/liberal and come off disingenuous. The guy was down to earth, said what he believed and didn't try to just say what he felt people wanted to hear. Also the Republican Candidate was shit.

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    I think democrats like Lamb are Team Red's worst nightmare.

    We have one like him in WV that is probably going win a House seat in November in Richard Ojeda.

    Fiercely PRO union, anti abortion except for rape and incest, PRO gun, decorated veteran.

    Team Red is already trying to attack him as a baby killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    I think democrats like Lamb are Team Red's worst nightmare.

    We have one like him in WV that is probably going win a House seat in November in Richard Ojeda.

    Fiercely PRO union, anti abortion except for rape and incest, PRO gun, decorated veteran.

    Team Red is already trying to attack him as a baby killer.
    Who cares?

    Please let this be the future of the democratic party.

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    White House tries to distance itself from Pennsylvania special election

    The White House is trying to distance itself from a poor showing by the Republican candidate in the Pennsylvania's special election Tuesday night.

    President Donald Trump campaigned for state Rep. Rick Saccone in a weekend rally outside of Pittsburgh and the GOP spent millions on the race to prevent an embarrassing defeat in a district Trump won handily.

    But it wasn't enough: Saccone is trailing Lamb with 100% of Election Day and absentee votes counted. Lamb has claimed victory but Saccone has said he will fight on.

    The White House sought to highlight on Wednesday Lamb's support for Trump's policies.

    "The Democrat in the race really embraced the President's policies and position, where he didn't embrace Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic leader," White House spokesman Raj Shah told reporters aboard Air Force One.

    Shah said the White House wouldn't comment officially beyond that. He called the result "essentially a tie."

    Trump wants candidates who embrace his policies to win in 2018, Shah said, and Republican candidates have a good record to run on.

    "The President does want candidates that embrace his policies, his vision, to win up and down the ballot," he said. "Each campaign is unique. Each candidate is unique. We saw that last night. We'll see it in 2018."

    Shah said that "Republicans running for office have a great record to run on. They have a great record on the economy."

    Internal Republican talking points on the race, provided to CNN by a GOP source, highlighted the importance of good candidates and fundraising, but also noted that the contest should be seen as a "wake-up call."

    "It's vital to aggressively raise the resources you need and define both your opponent and yourself," the talking points said. "If those things had happened in this race, I think we'd be looking at a very different outcome."

    Earlier Wednesday, two sources close to White House placed the blame on Saccone, echoing what other Republicans have also said about the candidate.

    "GOP does not view (the race) as a referendum on Trump. Rather a weak candidate," one source said.

    "Candidates either run hard or run scared. It was obvious that Saccone decided to run scared," said another.

    Lamb's narrow lead in the solidly-GOP district is a bad sign for the Republican Party as it heads into November's midterm elections.

    House Speaker Paul Ryan and top campaign lieutenants told a closed-door GOP meeting Wednesday that the result shows that Democratic enthusiasm is real and all incumbents need to be prepared for competitive races.

    Multiple people from the administration campaigned for Saccone, including Vice President Mike Pence and senior counselor Kellyanne Conway. Donald Trump Jr. also campaigned with Saccone on the eve of the election.

    In his rally Saturday night, Trump heaped praise on Saccone.

    "He's a very competent person," Trump said. "He's a very hard worker. He knows things that many people don't know. He understands North Korea maybe better than anybody."
    "This is a very extraordinary guy. We need him," he added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    I think democrats like Lamb are Team Red's worst nightmare.

    We have one like him in WV that is probably going win a House seat in November in Richard Ojeda.

    Fiercely PRO union, anti abortion except for rape and incest, PRO gun, decorated veteran.

    Team Red is already trying to attack him as a baby killer.
    He isn't anti abortion, he is personally pro life, but supports the courts decision in Roe V Wade.

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    Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia

    The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has subpoenaed the Trump Organization to turn over documents, including some related to Russia, according to two people briefed on the matter. The order is the first known time that the special counsel demanded documents directly related to President Trumpís businesses, bringing the investigation closer to the president.

    The breadth of the subpoena was not clear, nor was it clear why Mr. Mueller issued it instead of simply asking for the documents from the company, an umbrella organization that oversees Mr. Trumpís business ventures. In the subpoena, delivered in recent weeks, Mr. Mueller ordered the Trump Organization to hand over all documents related to Russia and other topics he is investigating, the people said.

    The subpoena is the latest indication that the investigation, which Mr. Trumpís lawyers once regularly assured him would be completed by now, will drag on for at least several more months. Word of the subpoena comes as Mr. Mueller appears to be broadening his investigation to examine the role foreign money may have played in funding Mr. Trumpís political activities. In recent weeks, Mr. Muellerís investigators have questioned witnesses, including an adviser to the United Arab Emirates, about the flow of Emirati money into the United States.

    Neither White House officials nor Alan S. Futerfas, a lawyer representing the Trump Organization, immediately responded to requests for comment. The Trump Organization has typically complied with requests from congressional investigators for documents for their own inquiries into Russian election interference, and there was no indication the company planned to fight Mr. Mueller about it.

    The Trump Organization has said that it never had real estate holdings in Russia, but witnesses recently interviewed by Mr. Mueller have been asked about a possible real estate deal in Moscow. In 2015, a longtime business associate of Mr. Trumpís emailed Mr. Trumpís lawyer, Michael Cohen, at his Trump Organization account claiming he had ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and said that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would help Mr. Trumpís presidential campaign.

    Mr. Trump signed a nonbinding ďletter of intentĒ for the project in 2015 and discussed it three times with Mr. Cohen.

    Mr. Mueller could run afoul of a line the president has warned him not to cross. Though it is not clear how much of the subpoena is related to Mr. Trumpís business beyond ties to Russia, Mr. Trump said in an interview with The New York Times in July that the special counsel would be crossing a ďred lineĒ if he looked into his familyís finances beyond any relationship with Russia. The president declined to say how he would respond if he concluded that the special counsel had crossed that line.

    A month before Mr. Trump spoke of his red line, the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, threatened to quit after Mr. Trump asked him to have Mr. Mueller fired because the president believed he had conflict-of-interest issues that precluded him from running the special counsel investigation.

    Mr. Mueller was appointed in May to investigate whether Mr. Trumpís campaign colluded with the Russians to influence the 2016 presidential election and any other matters that may arise from the inquiry. He is also examining whether the president has tried to obstruct the investigation.

    Mr. Trumpís lawyers are in negotiations with Mr. Muellerís office about whether and how to allow his investigators to interview the president. Mr. Muellerís office has shared topics it wants to discuss with the president, according to two people familiar with the talks. The lawyers have advised Mr. Trump to refuse an interview but the president wants to do it, as he believes he has done nothing wrong and can easily answer investigatorsí questions.

    At the same time, Mr. Trump is considering whether to bring on a new lawyer to help represent him in the special counselís investigation. Last week, Mr. Trump spoke with Emmet Flood, a longtime Washington lawyer who represented former President Bill Clinton during the impeachment process, about coming into the White House to deal with the inquiry.

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