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    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told reporters on Thursday that she sees "no prospects" for a legislative fix.

    This is the key phrase in this article. Pelosi is the reason for this entire mess. Her willingness to sacrifice families in order to avoid doing her job is plainly stated here and anyone who cannot or will not see this whole debacle for what it is in my opinion is lacking in intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.T. Fan View Post
    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told reporters on Thursday that she sees "no prospects" for a legislative fix.

    This is the key phrase in this article. Pelosi is the reason for this entire mess. Her willingness to sacrifice families in order to avoid doing her job is plainly stated here and anyone who cannot or will not see this whole debacle for what it is in my opinion is lacking in intelligence.
    What the fuck ever.

    Lindsey Graham said the cunt of a president could stop the separation of families with one phone call.

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    Trump reportedly told Japan's prime minister he'd send him '25 million Mexicans'

    President Donald Trump told Japan's prime minister, Shinzo Abe, during last week's G7 summit in Canada that he'd ship him millions of Mexicans, a senior European Union official who was in the room told The Wall Street Journal.

    The remark came as the G7 leaders were discussing migration, which Trump said was a big problem for Europe and the United States, the report says.

    "Shinzo, you don't have this problem, but I can send you 25 million Mexicans and you'll be out of office very soon," Trump said, according to the official.

    Trump also took a dig at French President Emmanuel Macron while the leaders were discussing Iran and terrorism, the official told The Journal.

    "You must know about this, Emmanuel, because all the terrorists are in Paris," Trump said, per the official.

    The official added that the leaders seemed irritated with Trump, "but everyone tried to be rational and calm."

    The G7 summit eventually ended in disarray after Trump abruptly reversed his position on the joint communique each of the countries had agreed to sign, citing the Canadian prime minister's vow to retaliate for US-imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum.

    Trump has previously made waves for his private descriptions of immigrants.

    The New York Times reported last year that he grumbled in a June 2017 meeting that the 15,000 Haitians who had entered the US in the preceding months "all have AIDS" and that the 40,000 Nigerians would never "go back to their huts" in Africa.

    Trump also questioned in another meeting earlier this year why the US should accept immigrants from "shithole countries," referring to Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations, multiple news outlets reported at the time.

    And The Washington Post reported last month that during an Oval Office meeting in 2017, Trump described hypothetical rapists and murderers by using made-up Hispanic names and reminded his top advisers that crowds at his campaign rallies loved hearing about how such criminals would be deported under his administration.

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    OMG I can't believe Trump is doing this!!!



    Oh wait this was under Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    What the fuck ever.

    Lindsey Graham said the cunt of a president could stop the separation of families with one phone call.
    And that would put the Executive branch in a position to be violating the law. Guess who would then try to use this against him.
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    [QUOTE=BipolarFan;429100]President Donald Trump told Japan's prime minister, Shinzo Abe, during last week's G7 summit in Canada that he'd ship him millions of Mexicans, a senior European Union official who was in the room told The Wall Street Journal.

    The remark came as the G7 leaders were discussing migration, which Trump said was a big problem for Europe and the United States, the report says.

    "Shinzo, you don't have this problem, but I can send you 25 million Mexicans and you'll be out of office very soon," Trump said, according to the official.

    Trump also took a dig at French President Emmanuel Macron while the leaders were discussing Iran and terrorism, the official told The Journal.

    "You must know about this, Emmanuel, because all the terrorists are in Paris," Trump said, per the official.

    The official added that the leaders seemed irritated with Trump, "but everyone tried to be rational and calm."

    The G7 summit eventually ended in disarray after Trump abruptly reversed his position on the joint communique each of the countries had agreed to sign, citing the Canadian prime minister's vow to retaliate for US-imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum.

    Trump has previously made waves for his private descriptions of immigrants.

    The New York Times reported last year that he grumbled in a June 2017 meeting that the 15,000 Haitians who had entered the US in the preceding months "all have AIDS" and that the 40,000 Nigerians would never "go back to their huts" in Africa.

    Trump also questioned in another meeting earlier this year why the US should accept immigrants from "shithole countries," referring to Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations, multiple news outlets reported at the time.

    And The Washington Post reported last month that during an Oval Office meeting in 2017, Trump described hypothetical rapists and murderers by using made-up Hispanic names and reminded his top advisers that crowds at his campaign rallies loved hearing about how such criminals would be deported under his administration.

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    The proper way to view the Trump Foundation scandal

    Forget about Donald Trump for a moment.

    Imagine a hypothetical man who takes donations from people who think they are giving to a charity for veterans.

    The man then uses those donations to settle lawsuits against his businesses and to fund a series of publicity stunts for his own political campaign.

    Now imagine that same man also starts a school. Students think they are paying tuition to learn how to start their own businesses. They are told the tuition will go to charity. But instead, the "school" has no license, the "teachers" are just salesmen preying on people's hopes and insecurities, and the "tuition" goes to line the man's pockets.

    If this man were some no-name huckster, our response would be very simple: he is a con man with an unbreakable habit of fraudulent behavior, never to be trusted.

    This is the proper lens through which to view the lawsuit brought against the Trump Foundation this week.

    It is not about any particular improper payment by the "charity." It is about Trump's blatant and persistent practice of lying to people, then taking their money, and acting as if no law or regulation or governmental authority ever applies to him.

    The New York attorney general's case packs a strong evidentiary punch. Emails among members of Trump's innermost circle show that the "foundation" was not a separate entity or a proper charity but allegedly just another slush fund from which Trump could pay people for his personal and political benefit.

    Trump's publicity stunts during the 2016 Iowa caucuses -- skipping the Republican debate to raise money for his foundation, for example -- were engineered by his presidential campaign. The New York state attorney general's office alleges that Trump's foundation was simply a fašade. According to the lawsuit, the foundation's actions appear to have allegedly been in violation not only of New York charities law but also federal tax law governing 501(c)(3) non-profit organizations.

    Trump may try to dismiss the airing of this DonateGate as the work of "sleazy New York Democrats," as he tweeted on Thursday, but the tweeter doth protest too much. When career investigators and prosecutors expose his wrongdoing, he always tries to brush it off as partisan.

    It is likely only a matter of time before Trump starts personally attacking New York's new attorney general, Barbara Underwood, even though she has spent years as a prosecutor and public servant, including in the federal Justice Department as acting solicitor general.

    Instead of following Trump on Twitter, follow the money: Trump settled the Trump University case for $25 million (an extraordinarily high amount, given that the illegal school had grossed about $40 million). That was not the action of a man who could defend his innocence on the merits. Trump has repeatedly denied the fraud claims.

    Now, Trump faces not only the New York attorney general but also potentially the IRS and the FEC for potentially serious violations of federal tax and campaign finance laws, respectively. Once again, dedicated prosecutors and judges, many of whom are conservatives and lifelong Republicans, will be called upon to scrutinize Trump's conduct, with the federal tax issues potentially carrying criminal liability. And the New York case may result in a trial well before Trump faces re-election in 2020.

    Yet what is most disturbing about this latest scandal is what it confirms about Trump's character.

    Nothing is sacred to Trump, except himself. Treasured values, our nation's heroes, and our legal system are just there to be taken advantage of if it means a quick buck or a bump in public approval.

    With Trump University, he peddled the American Dream to aspiring entrepreneurs.

    With Russia, the indictments seem to indicate that Mueller's investigation is mounting evidence that may prove that Trump's campaign conspired with a foreign power to influence an American election -- one of the greatest fears of the Founding Fathers.
    With the Trump Foundation, according to New York's attorney general office, he allegedly exploited veterans as political pawns by taking the charity donations of well-meaning patriots and used them for his own gain.

    Trump simply does not seem to believe that laws ever apply to him. He operated Trump University without a license. And the latest lawsuit raises the question of whether he operated the Trump Foundation in total disregard of state and federal law. He thinks he can pardon himself. These data points need to be viewed in totality, rather than in isolation, and the portrait they create is terrifyingly clear.

    The last time we found ourselves ruled by a man who fancied himself this far above the law, his name was King George III. Our plight today is not so dire: we still have judges and prosecutors dedicated to the Constitution and the rule of law. We have state governments, if not a functioning Congress. Yet these defenses will be weak if moderates, independents, and Republicans of good conscience do not begin to see Trump for what he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    Forget about Donald Trump for a moment.

    Imagine a hypothetical man who takes donations from people who think they are giving to a charity for veterans.

    The man then uses those donations to settle lawsuits against his businesses and to fund a series of publicity stunts for his own political campaign.

    Now imagine that same man also starts a school. Students think they are paying tuition to learn how to start their own businesses. They are told the tuition will go to charity. But instead, the "school" has no license, the "teachers" are just salesmen preying on people's hopes and insecurities, and the "tuition" goes to line the man's pockets.

    If this man were some no-name huckster, our response would be very simple: he is a con man with an unbreakable habit of fraudulent behavior, never to be trusted.

    This is the proper lens through which to view the lawsuit brought against the Trump Foundation this week.

    It is not about any particular improper payment by the "charity." It is about Trump's blatant and persistent practice of lying to people, then taking their money, and acting as if no law or regulation or governmental authority ever applies to him.

    The New York attorney general's case packs a strong evidentiary punch. Emails among members of Trump's innermost circle show that the "foundation" was not a separate entity or a proper charity but allegedly just another slush fund from which Trump could pay people for his personal and political benefit.

    Trump's publicity stunts during the 2016 Iowa caucuses -- skipping the Republican debate to raise money for his foundation, for example -- were engineered by his presidential campaign. The New York state attorney general's office alleges that Trump's foundation was simply a fašade. According to the lawsuit, the foundation's actions appear to have allegedly been in violation not only of New York charities law but also federal tax law governing 501(c)(3) non-profit organizations.

    Trump may try to dismiss the airing of this DonateGate as the work of "sleazy New York Democrats," as he tweeted on Thursday, but the tweeter doth protest too much. When career investigators and prosecutors expose his wrongdoing, he always tries to brush it off as partisan.

    It is likely only a matter of time before Trump starts personally attacking New York's new attorney general, Barbara Underwood, even though she has spent years as a prosecutor and public servant, including in the federal Justice Department as acting solicitor general.

    Instead of following Trump on Twitter, follow the money: Trump settled the Trump University case for $25 million (an extraordinarily high amount, given that the illegal school had grossed about $40 million). That was not the action of a man who could defend his innocence on the merits. Trump has repeatedly denied the fraud claims.

    Now, Trump faces not only the New York attorney general but also potentially the IRS and the FEC for potentially serious violations of federal tax and campaign finance laws, respectively. Once again, dedicated prosecutors and judges, many of whom are conservatives and lifelong Republicans, will be called upon to scrutinize Trump's conduct, with the federal tax issues potentially carrying criminal liability. And the New York case may result in a trial well before Trump faces re-election in 2020.

    Yet what is most disturbing about this latest scandal is what it confirms about Trump's character.

    Nothing is sacred to Trump, except himself. Treasured values, our nation's heroes, and our legal system are just there to be taken advantage of if it means a quick buck or a bump in public approval.

    With Trump University, he peddled the American Dream to aspiring entrepreneurs.

    With Russia, the indictments seem to indicate that Mueller's investigation is mounting evidence that may prove that Trump's campaign conspired with a foreign power to influence an American election -- one of the greatest fears of the Founding Fathers.
    With the Trump Foundation, according to New York's attorney general office, he allegedly exploited veterans as political pawns by taking the charity donations of well-meaning patriots and used them for his own gain.

    Trump simply does not seem to believe that laws ever apply to him. He operated Trump University without a license. And the latest lawsuit raises the question of whether he operated the Trump Foundation in total disregard of state and federal law. He thinks he can pardon himself. These data points need to be viewed in totality, rather than in isolation, and the portrait they create is terrifyingly clear.

    The last time we found ourselves ruled by a man who fancied himself this far above the law, his name was King George III. Our plight today is not so dire: we still have judges and prosecutors dedicated to the Constitution and the rule of law. We have state governments, if not a functioning Congress. Yet these defenses will be weak if moderates, independents, and Republicans of good conscience do not begin to see Trump for what he is.
    Link to the story:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/16/opini...ell/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    Forget about Donald Trump for a moment.

    Imagine a hypothetical man who takes donations from people who think they are giving to a charity for veterans.

    The man then uses those donations to settle lawsuits against his businesses and to fund a series of publicity stunts for his own political campaign.

    Now imagine that same man also starts a school. Students think they are paying tuition to learn how to start their own businesses. They are told the tuition will go to charity. But instead, the "school" has no license, the "teachers" are just salesmen preying on people's hopes and insecurities, and the "tuition" goes to line the man's pockets.

    If this man were some no-name huckster, our response would be very simple: he is a con man with an unbreakable habit of fraudulent behavior, never to be trusted.

    This is the proper lens through which to view the lawsuit brought against the Trump Foundation this week.

    It is not about any particular improper payment by the "charity." It is about Trump's blatant and persistent practice of lying to people, then taking their money, and acting as if no law or regulation or governmental authority ever applies to him.

    The New York attorney general's case packs a strong evidentiary punch. Emails among members of Trump's innermost circle show that the "foundation" was not a separate entity or a proper charity but allegedly just another slush fund from which Trump could pay people for his personal and political benefit.

    Trump's publicity stunts during the 2016 Iowa caucuses -- skipping the Republican debate to raise money for his foundation, for example -- were engineered by his presidential campaign. The New York state attorney general's office alleges that Trump's foundation was simply a fašade. According to the lawsuit, the foundation's actions appear to have allegedly been in violation not only of New York charities law but also federal tax law governing 501(c)(3) non-profit organizations.

    Trump may try to dismiss the airing of this DonateGate as the work of "sleazy New York Democrats," as he tweeted on Thursday, but the tweeter doth protest too much. When career investigators and prosecutors expose his wrongdoing, he always tries to brush it off as partisan.

    It is likely only a matter of time before Trump starts personally attacking New York's new attorney general, Barbara Underwood, even though she has spent years as a prosecutor and public servant, including in the federal Justice Department as acting solicitor general.

    Instead of following Trump on Twitter, follow the money: Trump settled the Trump University case for $25 million (an extraordinarily high amount, given that the illegal school had grossed about $40 million). That was not the action of a man who could defend his innocence on the merits. Trump has repeatedly denied the fraud claims.

    Now, Trump faces not only the New York attorney general but also potentially the IRS and the FEC for potentially serious violations of federal tax and campaign finance laws, respectively. Once again, dedicated prosecutors and judges, many of whom are conservatives and lifelong Republicans, will be called upon to scrutinize Trump's conduct, with the federal tax issues potentially carrying criminal liability. And the New York case may result in a trial well before Trump faces re-election in 2020.

    Yet what is most disturbing about this latest scandal is what it confirms about Trump's character.

    Nothing is sacred to Trump, except himself. Treasured values, our nation's heroes, and our legal system are just there to be taken advantage of if it means a quick buck or a bump in public approval.

    With Trump University, he peddled the American Dream to aspiring entrepreneurs.

    With Russia, the indictments seem to indicate that Mueller's investigation is mounting evidence that may prove that Trump's campaign conspired with a foreign power to influence an American election -- one of the greatest fears of the Founding Fathers.
    With the Trump Foundation, according to New York's attorney general office, he allegedly exploited veterans as political pawns by taking the charity donations of well-meaning patriots and used them for his own gain.

    Trump simply does not seem to believe that laws ever apply to him. He operated Trump University without a license. And the latest lawsuit raises the question of whether he operated the Trump Foundation in total disregard of state and federal law. He thinks he can pardon himself. These data points need to be viewed in totality, rather than in isolation, and the portrait they create is terrifyingly clear.

    The last time we found ourselves ruled by a man who fancied himself this far above the law, his name was King George III. Our plight today is not so dire: we still have judges and prosecutors dedicated to the Constitution and the rule of law. We have state governments, if not a functioning Congress. Yet these defenses will be weak if moderates, independents, and Republicans of good conscience do not begin to see Trump for what he is.
    Nothing like having a trial and verdict in the press. It’s highly unlikely that this reporter has seen the evidentiary material but is parroting what someone has said. I will wait on the trial because according to Trump he will not settle so this is a wait and see deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidadl View Post
    Thank you. Make him post his sources please.

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