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Kbrown

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People were rioting? What the hell is wrong with people?
When you're told that middle-of-the-road McCain and Romney are horrible misogynists and racists, then someone like Trump comes along... You're gonna get worked up. :lol
 

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This is such a weird feeling. I'm not happy or hopeful and the Republican party is fully in control. 15 years ago I would have peed my pants with excitment.

The only positive - maybe our country will move away from PC language and we can have plain conversations now.
Allow this to get you excited.....

Likely to be replaced:

Antonin Scalia - Dead.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Liberal) - 83 (87 in 4 years)
Stephen Breyer (Liberal) - 78 (82 in 4 years)
Anthony Kennedy (Moderate) - 80 (84 in 4 years)

....

Remaining:

Clarence Thomas (Conservative) - 68 (72 in 4 years)
Samuel Alito (Conservative) - 66 (70 in 4 years)
John Roberts (Conservative) - 61 (65 in 4 years)
Sonia Sotomayor (Liberal) - 62 (66 in 4 years)
Elena Kagan (Liberal) - 56 (60 in 4 years)

Shit could be 6-3 conservatives or even 7-2 depending on who retires.
 

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Between Trump flipping so many blue states and the republicans sweeping congress, you're kidding yourself if you don't think this was a referendum on democrat policies and the failure of the past 8 years.
That is exactly right.
 

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Allow this to get you excited.....

Likely to be replaced:

Antonin Scalia - Dead.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Liberal) - 83 (87 in 4 years)
Stephen Breyer (Liberal) - 78 (82 in 4 years)
Anthony Kennedy (Moderate) - 80 (84 in 4 years)

....

Remaining:

Clarence Thomas (Conservative) - 68 (72 in 4 years)
Samuel Alito (Conservative) - 66 (70 in 4 years)
John Roberts (Conservative) - 61 (65 in 4 years)
Sonia Sotomayor (Liberal) - 62 (66 in 4 years)
Elena Kagan (Liberal) - 56 (60 in 4 years)

Shit could be 6-3 conservatives or even 7-2 depending on who retires.
That is huge, no doubt.
 

boozeman

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So do you still believe race is brought up to much?

And what do you think about Trump using it as a wedge issue?
He used it as a wedge issue because he could. He was enabled and you have to give him credit for that.
 
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You are so full of shit. That statement proves it with your elitist attitude. The party was needed in the congress for a majority for Trump to be able to implement the things the movement is looking for.
So then, you're basically saying just Obama is "the swamp"? All the rhetoric about how today's politicians are worthless was just words because deep down we wanted to keep them all in place?

Okie dokie.
 

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I'm seeing a lot of second guessing like "Oh if only the democrats had nominated Sanders!"

What makes people think Sanders would have won? The US has never voted for an avowed socialist and probably won't in our lifetimes.
 

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As much as Wiki leaks killed Clinton, she made a bunch of dumb mistakes. Had she picked a better running mate, she could have pulled some strays, for example. Running on a thin vague platform that just assumed people were happy after eight years of the same was another.
 

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So then, you're basically saying just Obama is "the swamp"? All the rhetoric about how today's politicians are worthless was just words because deep down we wanted to keep them all in place?

Okie dokie.
I think it's more complex. Polls since the beginning of forever have shown that Americans hate Congress but love their Congressmen and see them as fighting against Washington on their behalf. That's why so many Senators seem to stay around for life.

So, weird as it is, it's likely that people saw voting for their incumbent as a strike against Washington.
 

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I'm seeing a lot of second guessing like "Oh if only the democrats had nominated Sanders!"

What makes people think Sanders would have won? The US has never voted for an avowed socialist and probably won't in our lifetimes.
I don't think Sanders would have necessarily have won, but Clinton was far less likeable and easier to attack.
 
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Allow this to get you excited.....

Likely to be replaced:

Antonin Scalia - Dead.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Liberal) - 83 (87 in 4 years)
Stephen Breyer (Liberal) - 78 (82 in 4 years)
Anthony Kennedy (Moderate) - 80 (84 in 4 years)

....

Remaining:

Clarence Thomas (Conservative) - 68 (72 in 4 years)
Samuel Alito (Conservative) - 66 (70 in 4 years)
John Roberts (Conservative) - 61 (65 in 4 years)
Sonia Sotomayor (Liberal) - 62 (66 in 4 years)
Elena Kagan (Liberal) - 56 (60 in 4 years)

Shit could be 6-3 conservatives or even 7-2 depending on who retires.
I can see Ginsburg clinging to life for 4 more years.
 

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Race has been used by both parties in elections for many many years.
True.

until 18 months it was only the Dems and blacks who played the race card, used victimization and identity politics to create all of the issues when there where really no problems.

I mean all we had to do was stop bringing up race and everything would be alright.

I want to see that same criticism leveled at Trump.
 

Jiggyfly

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You are so full of shit. That statement proves it with your elitist attitude. The party was needed in the congress for a majority for Trump to be able to implement the things the movement is looking for.
Deuce elitist.?

What's next KBrown is a commie:lol
 

Kbrown

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I'm seeing a lot of second guessing like "Oh if only the democrats had nominated Sanders!"

What makes people think Sanders would have won? The US has never voted for an avowed socialist and probably won't in our lifetimes.
I don't know that he would have won, but his popularity should have been a sign that a Trump win was possible. 1big called him ho-hum, but he wasn't really even a Democrat and he gave THE Democrat all she could handle. People are pissed.
 

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Did anyone see the quote from John Ehrlichman, former Nixon aide, talking about why the war on drugs was created?

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday. "You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

I mean, if you don't think both parties do this you're crazy.
What has the democrats done that is anything close to that?
 
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I've come to grips with the win, but the part I'm having a hard time with is waiting for his appointments. Guiliani as Attorney General makes me laugh only to keep myself from vomiting.
 
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