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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    You need solid good LBers which we have a few of. Not even including Jaylon. But by draft time I expect Jaylon to be at full go, so it won't even be an issue by then.

    Can you say that about WR next year? Who are you going to start, Vince Mayle?
    There are Butler and Williams types throughout FA and later in the draft, remember after all Williams was a 3rd round pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.T. Fan View Post
    It's funny just a few days ago Jiggy was scolding me for declaring that Smith was still very questionable as to whether he was going to make a recovery. Now he is scolding you for having too much confidence in his recovery. Go figure.
    I never "scolded" you I just got tired of you rushing into the thread saying the same thing over and over.

    I am not scolding CRock we are having a discussion, everybody is not as thinned skinned as you and do not look at these things as "scoldings".

    As for Smith once more information became available I changed my thinking, I that is strange to you because it is something you are incapable of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggyfly View Post
    I never "scolded" you I just got tired of you rushing into the thread saying the same thing over and over.

    I am not scolding CRock we are having a discussion, everybody is not as thinned skinned as you and do not look at these things as "scoldings".

    As for Smith once more information became available I changed my thinking, I that is strange to you because it is something you are incapable of.
    Since Day One

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.T. Fan View Post
    Just keep clutching those pearls L.T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.T. Fan View Post
    It's funny just a few days ago Jiggy was scolding me for declaring that Smith was still very questionable as to whether he was going to make a recovery. Now he is scolding you for having too much confidence in his recovery. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggyfly View Post
    There are Butler and Williams types throughout FA and later in the draft, remember after all Williams was a 3rd round pick.
    You're talking about addressing a need in free agency. We could do that about any need and make it less of a need.

    And LBers are found all throughout the draft who end up great. So I'm not really sure where you are going with that.

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    Looked at mocks for the first time today. No real consensus. Some had us taking WR: Davis/Ross, while others had DE like Harris.

    What was interesting is most of Christian McCaffrey to the Pats. That would be intriguing. He'd be a perfect fit for them.

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    1/12/17

    Big Board

    1. *Myles Garrett DE Texas A&M
    2. Jonathan Allen DE Alabama
    3. *Leonard Fournette RB LSU
    4. Reuben Foster ILB Alabama
    5. *Dalvin Cook RB Florida St.

    6. *Jamal Adams S LSU
    7. **Solomon Thomas DE Stanford
    8. **Jabrill Peppers S Michigan
    9. *Mike Williams WR Clemson
    10. **Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio St.

    11. Takkarist McKinley DE UCLA
    12. *Cam Robinson T Alabama
    13. Tim Williams OLB Alabama
    14. **Malik Hooker S Ohio St.
    15. *Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford

    16. *Mitch Trubisky QB North Carolina
    17. *Teez Tabor CB Florida
    18. *Taco Charlton DE Michigan
    19. Jarrad Davis LB Florida
    20. *Malik McDowell DT Michigan St.

    21. *Derek Barnett DE Tennessee
    22. *Charles Harris DE Missouri
    23. *Quincy Wilson CB Florida
    24. **Marlon Humphrey CB Alabama
    25. *Ryan Ramczyk T Wisconsin


    Top 10 by Position

    Quarterbacks
    1. *Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
    2. **DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
    3. *Deshaun Watson, Clemson
    4. *Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech
    5. *Brad Kaaya, Miami (Fla.)
    6.*Jerod Evans, Virginia Tech
    7. Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh
    8. Chad Kelly, Mississippi
    9. C.J. Beathard, Iowa
    10. Antonio Pipkin, Tiffin

    Running backs
    1. *Leonard Fournette, LSU
    2. *Dalvin Cook, Florida State
    3. *Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    4. *D'Onta Foreman, Texas
    5. **Joe Mixon, Oklahoma
    6. Matthew Dayes, NC State
    7. *Samaje Perine, Oklahoma
    8. Jamaal Williams, BYU
    9. *James Conner, Pittsburgh
    10. Corey Clement, Wisconsin

    Fullbacks
    1. Sam Rogers, Virginia Tech
    2. Shane Smith, San Jose State
    3. Nate Iese, UCLA
    4. Anthony Firkser, Harvard
    5. Freddie Stevenson, Florida State
    6. Tyler McCloskey, Houston
    7. Joe Bacci, Central Michigan
    8. Prescott Line, Michigan State
    9. Algernon Brown, BYU
    10. Jaymar Parrish, Pitt

    Wide receivers
    1. *Mike Williams, Clemson
    2. Corey Davis, Western Michigan
    3. *John Ross, Washington
    4. *Curtis Samuel, Ohio State
    5. *JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC
    6. *Carlos Henderson, Louisiana Tech
    7. *Isaiah Ford, Virginia Tech
    8. Dede Westbrook, Oklahoma
    9. Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
    10. Taywan Taylor, Western Kentucky

    Tight ends
    1. O.J. Howard, Alabama
    2. *Bucky Hodges, Virginia Tech
    3. Jake Butt, Michigan
    4. **David Njoku, Miami (Fla.)
    5. Jordan Leggett, Clemson
    6. Cole Hikutini, Louisville
    7. Gerald Everett, South Alabama
    8. Pharaoh Brown, Oregon
    9. Evan Engram, Mississippi
    10. Jeremy Sprinkle, Arkansas

    Offensive tackles
    1. *Cam Robinson, Alabama
    2. *Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin
    3. *Garett Bolles, Utah
    4. Dion Dawkins, Temple
    5. *Roderick Johnson, Florida State
    6. Taylor Moton, Western Michigan
    7. Antonio Garcia, Troy
    8. Zach Banner, USC
    9. Conor McDermott, UCLA
    10. Justin Senior, Mississippi State

    Offensive guards
    1. Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky
    2. Dan Feeney, Indiana
    3. Dorian Johnson, Pittsburgh
    4. Nico Siragusa, San Diego State
    5. *Damien Mama, USC
    6. Danny Isidora, Miami (Fla.)
    7. Isaac Asiata, Utah
    8. Greg Pyke, Georgia
    9. Jessamen Dunker, Tennessee State
    10. Jordan Morgan, Kutztown

    Centers
    1. Ethan Pocic, LSU
    2. Pat Elflein, Ohio State
    3. Tyler Orlosky, West Virginia
    4. Jon Toth, Kentucky
    5. Cameron Tom, Southern Mississippi
    6. Chase Roullier, Wyoming
    7. Kyle Fuller, Baylor
    8. Jay Guillermo, Clemson
    9. Lucas Crowley, North Carolina
    10. Riley Sorenson, Washington State

    Defensive ends
    1. *Myles Garrett, Texas A&M
    2. Jonathan Allen, Alabama
    3. **Solomon Thomas, Stanford
    4. Taco Charlton, Michigan
    5. *Derek Barnett, Tennessee
    6. *Charles Harris, Missouri
    7. Jordan Willis, Kansas State
    8. *Carl Lawson, Auburn
    9. Chris Wormley, Michigan
    10. DeMarcus Walker, Florida State

    Defensive tackles
    1. *Malik McDowell, Michigan State
    2. *Caleb Brantley, Florida
    3. Carlos Watkins, Clemson
    4. *Elijah Qualls, Washington
    5. Jaleel Johnson, Iowa
    6. *Charles Walker, Oklahoma
    7. Dalvin Tomlinson, Alabama
    8. Ryan Glasgow, Michigan
    9. *Davon Godchaux, LSU
    10. Montravius Adams, Auburn

    Inside linebackers
    1. Reuben Foster, Alabama
    2. *Raekwon McMillan, Ohio State
    3. *Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt
    4. *Anthony Walker, Northwestern
    5. Kendell Beckwith, LSU
    6. Duke Riley, LSU
    7. Marquel Lee, Wake Forest
    8. Ben Gedeon, Michigan
    9. Keith Kelsey, Louisville
    10. Hardy Nickerson, Illinois

    Outside linebackers
    1. Takkarist McKinley, UCLA
    2. Tim Williams, Alabama
    3. Jarrad Davis, Florida
    4. Ryan Anderson, Alabama
    5. Haason Reddick, Temple
    6.*T.J. Watt, Wisconsin
    7. Tyus Bowser, Houston
    8. Vince Biegel, Wisconsin
    9. Ejuan Price, Pittsburgh
    10. Devonte Fields, Louisville

    Cornerbacks
    1. **Marshon Lattimore, Ohio State
    2. *Teez Tabor, CB, Florida
    3. *Quincy Wilson, Florida
    4. **Marlon Humphrey, Alabama
    5. Cordrea Tankersley, Clemson
    6. *Sidney Jones, Washington
    7. Tre'Davious White, LSU
    8. Jourdan Lewis, Michigan
    9. Desmond King, Iowa
    10. *Gareon Conley, Ohio State

    Safeties
    1. *Jamal Adams, LSU
    2. **Jabrill Peppers, Michigan
    3. **Malik Hooker, Ohio State
    4. *Budda Baker, Washington
    5. *Marcus Williams, Utah
    6. *Josh Jones, NC State
    7. Marcus Maye, Florida
    8. Eddie Jackson, Alabama
    9. Justin Evans, Texas A&M
    10. Obi Melifonwu, Connecticut

    Kickers and punters
    1. Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State (kicker)
    2. Austin Rehkow, Idaho (kicker and punter)
    3. Jake Elliott, Memphis (kicker)
    4. Justin Vogel, Miami (Fla.) (punter)
    5. Toby Baker, Arkansas (punter)
    6. Cameron Johnston, Ohio State (punter)
    7. Younghoe Koo, Georgia Southern (kicker)
    8. Kenny Allen, Michigan (kicker and punter)
    9. Hayden Hunt, Colorado State (punter)
    10. Harrison Butker, Georgia Tech (kicker)

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    I'll be interested in see what the draft scouts have to say about Dede Westbrook.

    He's too small to be a #1 WR but I think he has potential to be used as an all around weapon like Kansas City's Tyreke Hill.

    Aside from lining up at wideout, he returned kickoffs and punts and ran reverses and jet-sweeps at Oklahoma.

    I think he's more quick than fast which is an excellent trait for a return man.

    The one drawback about Westbrook is has some off the field domestic violence issues in his past as well. Probably wouldn't be wise for the Cowboys to draft him but I think he'll be an interesting gadget player for some team.
    Last edited by 1bigfan13; 01-19-2017 at 08:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bigfan13 View Post
    The one drawback about Westbrook is has some off the field domestic violence issues in his past as well. Probably wouldn't be wise for the Cowboys to draft him but I think he'll be an interesting gadget player for some team.
    I don't think they will have much to say about his play, it speaks for itself. They will pound him on the domestic violence, no doubt. I do think he is a bit of coward for skipping out on the Senior Bowl to dodge the questions though.

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