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    I've seen Mahomes all over the board. Damn good talent but needs more polish to go that high. When he is good he is very good but he lacks pocket discipline and experience. He didn't really play QB until his Jr year of HS and has only had one football offseason in his entire life when he wasn't playing baseball.

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    3 possessions into Bedlam and there have been 3 punts.

    It's like they accidentally discovered defense during the bye week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidadl View Post
    I've seen Mahomes all over the board. Damn good talent but needs more polish to go that high. When he is good he is very good but he lacks pocket discipline and experience. He didn't really play QB until his Jr year of HS and has only had one football offseason in his entire life when he wasn't playing baseball.
    I think it speaks to how weak this QB draft class may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    I think it speaks to how weak this QB draft class may be.
    In think that is why it looks like he will declare. This is the year that he can cash in. His family is wealthy (dad played professional baseball for 17 years) so I think he needs to stay. He didn't have many chances to sit back and throw with the OL sucking really bad this year. Played with a torn knee ligament, sprained AC in both shoulders, broken bone in wrist and a hip injury all year.

    The dude made some very spectacular plays the last two years though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    I'd probably try and plug some holes in free agency as well if possible. DE though is the one spot where it seems near impossible to find a good free agent. Well unless of course you get someone in their thirties like a Peppers or Ware type.

    LBer is way down my list of needs. I've said it before, I wouldn't pass up an elite talent there but it wouldn't be a priority either. Not with Lee and Jaylon Smith. Not to mention Wilson has really started to play well this year (Only his second year) and Hitchens is at least solid. Safety may be a little different though. Safety is a position that should be picking off a lot of passes in our defense. The problem is our safeties either lack the athletic ability or the hands to create turnovers.
    Lee is getting old and is still a injury risk, Smith is still a huge question mark.

    LB is the weakest part of the D in my opinion a real difference maker is still needed.

    I think DE is the biggest need but I would not reach if the LB is rated higher I take him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleton View Post
    While this is all true I think Davis is too good to pass up at 28, 29 or where ever we're picking in the late 20's/early 30's.

    I think he's a top 15-20 talent and probably will be gone, especially if he goes to the Senior Bowl and kills it. If there was a DL, LB or safety prospect that was his caliber of prospect I'd definitely go that route, I just don't think that's likely.

    I'm not ready to say this with full confidence just yet but I think he may be the best WR in the class.
    Don't know anything about the player but WR is not a pressing need IMO and if Davis is that kind of prospect I don't see him going that low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggyfly View Post
    Lee is getting old and is still a injury risk, Smith is still a huge question mark.

    LB is the weakest part of the D in my opinion a real difference maker is still needed.

    I think DE is the biggest need but I would not reach if the LB is rated higher I take him.
    I honestly am not worried bout Jaylon Smith being ready for next year. Maybe that's the difference. Plus we have like one probowl player on this defense and it's Sean Lee. So those two things have LBer down my list of needs pribably below WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    I honestly am not worried bout Jaylon Smith being ready for next year. Maybe that's the difference. Plus we have like one probowl player on this defense and it's Sean Lee. So those two things have LBer down my list of needs pribably below WR.
    Smith still cannot completely pick up his foot and Lee has yet to play a full year healthy is getting older and seems to have lost a step.

    Oh yeah Smith has never played a down in the NFL.

    I don't see how anyone could put WR receiver over LB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggyfly View Post
    Smith still cannot completely pick up his foot and Lee has yet to play a full year healthy is getting older and seems to have lost a step.

    Oh yeah Smith has never played a down in the NFL.

    I don't see how anyone could put WR receiver over LB.
    Because half our WR corp are free agents including a starter. Our LBer corp includes a probowler and a top 5 draft pick talent. As well as two young and up coming talents in Wilson and Hitchens. Seems pretty easy to see.

    LB is the one position on defense that isn't a massive need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggyfly View Post
    Smith still cannot completely pick up his foot and Lee has yet to play a full year healthy is getting older and seems to have lost a step.

    Oh yeah Smith has never played a down in the NFL.

    I don't see how anyone could put WR receiver over LB.
    So you think we should overpay Terrence Williams or start Beasley? And no, I don't think Butler is starting material.

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