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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    Trading him would be the same thing as releasing him, financially for the most part.

    But for the crowed that thinks you only save 5 mil in cap space, it's not worth dumping Romo for that, they have no clue how the salary cap works. The cap should never be viewed at from a specific year perspective like that. Money can be pushed from one cap to the next by restructuring and unused free space can be carried from one season to the next.

    So even if we only save 5 mil on the cap next year. You need to consider the cap savings in 2018 and 2019 as well. For example right now Romo is scheduled to count 25.2 mil against our cap in 2018. If we cut/trade Romo in the off season that number should be reduced to zero. He is scheduled to count 23.7 in 2019, again that number goes down to zero. So getting rid of Romo doesn't produce a "real cap" savings of 3 mil as someone said earlier on here. That would be a total lack of understanding of the salary cap. In the end the real savings you make against the cap is 54 mil by cutting/trading him.
    Please do explain, from OTC I get that cut/trade Romo this offseason gets 19.6 in dead money and 5.1 in savings; cut/trade him 2018 8.9 in dead money and 16.3 in savings that would make at most a 14 mill difference holding out for a trade right? 2019 doesn't figure in either scenario or?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrymesscan View Post
    Please do explain, from OTC I get that cut/trade Romo this offseason gets 19.6 in dead money and 5.1 in savings; cut/trade him 2018 8.9 in dead money and 16.3 in savings that would make at most a 14 mill difference holding out for a trade right? 2019 doesn't figure in either scenario or?
    Well the easiest way to put it is that the money that has already been paid to Romo will count against the cap at some point. So what you have left are the base salaries. Those are what you can avoid from ever hitting the cap. Next year Romo's base salary is 14 million. In 2018 his base salary is 19.5 million. In 2019 his base salary is going to be 20.5 million.

    So ultimately the difference between cutting him in 2017 and 2018 is really 14 million dollars. 14 mil is in the range of a franchise tag for most positions other then QB. So what you're really sacrificing is a franchise player next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    Well the easiest way to put it is that the money that has already been paid to Romo will count against the cap at some point. So what you have left are the base salaries. Those are what you can avoid from ever hitting the cap. Next year Romo's base salary is 14 million. In 2018 his base salary is 19.5 million. In 2019 his base salary is going to be 20.5 million.

    So ultimately the difference between cutting him in 2017 and 2018 is really 14 million dollars. 14 mil is in the range of a franchise tag for most positions other then QB. So what you're really sacrificing is a franchise player next year.
    But you only get 5 mill for 2017 right? The 14 mill total would be for both years, the savings (5mill) of 2017 and the "non-dead" money (9mill) in 2018, if I understand correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrymesscan View Post
    But you only get 5 mill for 2017 right? The 14 mill total would be for both years, the savings (5mill) of 2017 and the "non-dead" money (9mill) in 2018, if I understand correctly.
    Sort of, but you can't think of it linearly like that in the NFL. Because cap space can be passed from one year to the next you can think of it as an extra 14 in 2018 or you can simply restructure a contract to move the 14 mil into 2017. Either way it equates to a year of a franchise level player. A Ware/Dez or whoever in their prime. You can take one of them or you can have Romo as a backup for that year. Seems like a pretty obvious choice to me.

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