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    Speaking of being poor, there is a divide between classes, not just races. I have found that people that grew up poor are generally more friendly than those that grew up in privilege.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamtdg View Post
    Speaking of being poor, there is a divide between classes, not just races. I have found that people that grew up poor are generally more friendly than those that grew up in privilege.
    Privileged people are generally more interested in keeping up appearances. How they are viewed is extremely important to them.

    There are some really crappy poor people though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidadl View Post
    Privileged people are generally more interested in keeping up appearances. How they are viewed is extremely important to them.

    There are some really crappy poor people though.
    Sure, there are exceptions to every generalization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidadl View Post
    Bro, SS and crackers are awesome
    Out of context, you sound like a neo-Nazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidadl View Post
    Privileged people are generally more interested in keeping up appearances. How they are viewed is extremely important to them.

    There are some really crappy poor people though.
    My Mom had some weird things going on. They grew up really poor because my grandfather drank all their money. My grandmother would have to plead with a grocery manager for credit, etc. But for whatever reason my mom was obsessed with appearances and could be really elitist and judgmental, and passed some of that on to me. Now that I'm not exactly wealthy as an adult, I have to fight being ashamed for no reason sometimes.

    I guess my point is that it's hard to reduce anything to broad racial or social claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidadl View Post
    Interesting.

    I know that I've taught my sons how to talk to a man, how to shake a man or woman's hand, making eye contact, how to address different types of people and so on. That is very improtant to me. I noticed that black men generally don't follow this very much. I don't take it personally. I just assumed it was because of of different teaching.
    Nobody is taught that.

    I am interested to know like Towns said what is there socioeconomic background.

    I think it is also a southern country thing because I know whites that do the same thing and it seems to come from a position of uneasiness with how they might be perceived.

    Also what age are we talking about?

    I know the older generation did that as to not be seen as threatening in any way, which could just be asking for trouble.

    Also why is interracial coupling so fascinating?

    And why is it still a source of tension for a lot of white males?
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    I wanted to build on some of that.

    There are a number of black people who are flat out threatened by white people and that discomfort comes out as Skid has mentioned but I find that to be also more of a class thing than race thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidadl View Post
    Or interracial marriages - that stuff fascinates me. Sometimes I like to see how a coupe interacts. It amazes me for some reason.
    In what way is it fascinating to you? You are in an interracial marriage yourself, right? Unless you consider Hispanic and Caucasian the same race for some reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by skidadl View Post
    1. I've noticed that some black men won't look me in the eye when talking to me.
    This has not been my experience at all. Neither in the Midwest nor in Texas. Maybe your creeper/people watcher vibe is really strong and they are picking up on it?
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    Nobody is taught that.
    Well, in situations where that behavior (looking people in the eyes when you talk to them) is more emphasized it is certainly taught. I'm assuming that it is learned from example or maybe nobody ever took the time to coach people up that do that. To me it is a basic communication tool. Maybe it isn't as taught with some black folks?

    It is weird because I have a black pastor that won't look at you in the the face when you're talking to him. I just noticed it more with black folks than white folks but that just may be my limited perception. I was wondering if anyone else noticed that.

    I am interested to know like Towns said what is there socioeconomic background.
    That is a good question. Obviously I can't quantify it because I'm not exposed to every situation.

    I think it is also a southern country thing because I know whites that do the same thing and it seems to come from a position of uneasiness with how they might be perceived
    Maybe so but my black pastor friend is from inner city NY and from an upper middle class family. He's married to a white lady. He was rejected by his wife's family for many years. They have been married for 25 years. He's not my only exposure to this but he's my closest example. Had a 2.5 hour lunch with him recently (he loves to talk) and noticed he seemed to be fighting it but would revert back when he wasn't paying attention.

    Also what age are we talking about?
    In my most recent experience we are talking about 3 different men in their mid-40s.

    Also, I noticed that almost all of the teenage black athletes that I coached do the same thing.

    Lately we have been going to an all black church and noticed it a bunch there.

    I know the older generation did that as to not be seen as threatening in any way, which could just be asking for trouble.
    I don't think it was ever in that context.

    Also why is interracial coupling so fascinating?
    I've been married interracially for 22 years and have a horde of interracial kids. Culture behavior and sociology fascinate me. I love to see different people interact. It's the same with people with wide age differences.

    And why is it still a source of tension for a lot of white males?
    I couldn't tell you. Tension isn't a thing for me as much as I'm a people observer. Hopefully that doesn't cause tension for others. If so that sucks.

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