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Thread: A week of LGBTQ acceptance education in a middle school. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortsbest View Post
    Not to say I told you so, but, I told you this was eventually going to happen. Folks like Jiggy and a few others though it was ridiculous. A principal is declaring this a necessary thing in a middle school despite parents wishes.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/par...134544612.html
    Key phrase "A Principal".

    This is one school in the very liberal bay area.

    This is a far cry from what you were claiming, that Obama was hiring a guy to institute some gay based agenda from the ferderal level and guess what Obama is almost gone and no agenda was ever even talked about.

    I have no issue with parents not wanting this for their kids but even this is not some vast conspiracy to indoctrinate, it is about about teaching tolerance.

    And I will say I told you so, Obama had no plans to change curriculum to institute some gay agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    And do what with them?

    Keep one parent at home to home school?

    Then the family has to get welfare because one parent working can't pay the bills.
    It's getting cheaper to home school kids because of the internet. But sadly, it is not an option for many parents who are already struggling to get by.

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    When was white supremacy "considered a fact"?

    Not in any school me, my siblings or my parents ever attended.

    If it was ever being taught or even implied it was a loooooong time ago and the implication that my generation or the next generation has to make up for that somehow remains exactly my point, that I should be ashamed of the fact that white people used to own slaves or something. Never mind that my ancestors were dirt poor Italians who came over on a slow boat from Europe and lived in tenements for a generation and didn't get to look down on anyone.

    Its just another opportunity to propagate the lie that anyone in the white/straight/Christian/male majority is a privileged asshole who needs re-education about how they need to make it up to minorities.

    Actual fairness will come if we drop the divisive bullshit that classes like this push on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mschmidt64 View Post
    When was white supremacy "considered a fact"?

    Not in any school me, my siblings or my parents ever attended.

    If it was ever being taught or even implied it was a loooooong time ago and the implication that my generation or the next generation has to make up for that somehow remains exactly my point, that I should be ashamed of the fact that white people used to own slaves or something. Never mind that my ancestors were dirt poor Italians who came over on a slow boat from Europe and lived in tenements for a generation and didn't get to look down on anyone.

    Its just another opportunity to propagate the lie that anyone in the white/straight/Christian/male majority is a privileged asshole who needs re-education about how they need to make it up to minorities.

    Actual fairness will come if we drop the divisive bullshit that classes like this push on us.
    Actually the slavery issue isn't confined to black people and Africa. There are others who were victims of this practice. This link is one example.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-iri...e-slaves/31076
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    Quote Originally Posted by mschmidt64 View Post
    When was white supremacy "considered a fact"?

    Not in any school me, my siblings or my parents ever attended.

    If it was ever being taught or even implied it was a loooooong time ago and the implication that my generation or the next generation has to make up for that somehow remains exactly my point, that I should be ashamed of the fact that white people used to own slaves or something. Never mind that my ancestors were dirt poor Italians who came over on a slow boat from Europe and lived in tenements for a generation and didn't get to look down on anyone.

    Its just another opportunity to propagate the lie that anyone in the white/straight/Christian/male majority is a privileged asshole who needs re-education about how they need to make it up to minorities.

    Actual fairness will come if we drop the divisive bullshit that classes like this push on us.
    Segregation was not that long ago. In that timeline, white supremacy was implicit. Before it, it was dogmatic. 100 years after slavery ended there was still policy drafted and politicians of prominence that championed white supremacy. It wasn't in your generation, but it was in the generation that made you.

    I'm a white man too, one that grew up with very little privilege. All the cops in Hondo Tx were Mexican, so being pale didn't really help me at all. So I bristle at times when I get grouped in with WASPs that were raised in luxurious bubbles. That whiteness is considered synonymous with upper class.

    But also don't think for a second that there isn't a totally different legal system set up to streamline blacks into prison. That the implication of white supremacy doesn't taint every war on drugs and every "tough on crime" legislation. That the white people who are hurt by these things are collateral damage in a war on blacks that federal, state, and local governments have been waging since the day slavery was abolished.

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    Tolerance is a wonderful thing. Be nice, nice rights...all of that. Hell, in my tiny, conservative town we had a gay boy who wears dresses and makeup to school win homecoming king. Progress is being made. This generation is the most tolerant in history. Just don't shove your crap down my kids throat.

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    Whoa there, I can acknowledge that there is a segment of the justice system that unfairly targets blacks. I can also acknowledge that the war on drugs is both misguided and has a disproportionate impact on blacks (though I do not believe crafted to target them deliberately), while at the same time rightfully scoffing at the notion of white supremacy.

    Look at today's multicultural media environment, there is no credible way to argue that culturally whites are oppressing others. Is white culture featured most? Yes because whites are the majority so that's how it should be.

    But this idea that it's harder for the average blank person to get ahead is phony; and now it's being extended to the LGBT crowd. They are so oppressed because a local bakery won't bake them a cake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mschmidt64 View Post
    And the public schools shouldn't be engaging in it.

    You are absolutely right and this is the crux of the issue right here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mschmidt64 View Post
    Whoa there, I can acknowledge that there is a segment of the justice system that unfairly targets blacks. I can also acknowledge that the war on drugs is both misguided and has a disproportionate impact on blacks (though I do not believe crafted to target them deliberately), while at the same time rightfully scoffing at the notion of white supremacy.

    Look at today's multicultural media environment, there is no credible way to argue that culturally whites are oppressing others. Is white culture featured most? Yes because whites are the majority so that's how it should be.

    But this idea that it's harder for the average blank person to get ahead is phony; and now it's being extended to the LGBT crowd. They are so oppressed because a local bakery won't bake them a cake!
    I'm not saying whites are actively suppressing others. Just that the ghost of white supremacy lives on in conventions that were minted when it was a more universal outlook. There are a lot of things that still happen because it's the way it's always been done. If segregation is still kind of enforced, it doesn't matter if it's malicious or not, we're still enacting the wishes of white supremacists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mschmidt64 View Post
    But this idea that it's harder for the average blank person to get ahead is phony; and now it's being extended to the LGBT crowd. They are so oppressed because a local bakery won't bake them a cake!
    if someone's trans it's absolutely harder for them to get ahead. A big part of what people call "white privelege" is actually privilege of assimilation. If a guy's named Stewart Johnson, people will be more likely to hire them than if they're named Ladarius Damarius. If you show up to a job interview dressed like a women, with a man's physical body, then people will be put off by you, and likely go with someone that makes them less uncomfortable. We're only 5 years removed from people getting kicked out of the military for being gay. So it's not just about cakes.

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