NoDak
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That would be a 60 foot hallway. You must have a massive ass house.
No shit.
That would be a 60 foot hallway. You must have a massive ass house.
And this right here tells me you really don't know what the hell you're talking about. If you think hunters are shooting birds at 10 yards and in, I don't know what to tell you. Other than, stop. You're embarrassing yourself.But the spreads on bird shot at even 10 yards are pretty big. Of course you lose some killing power at that point.
And this right here tells me you really don't know what the hell you're talking about. If you think hunters are shooting birds at 10 yards and in, I don't know what to tell you. Other than, stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
Find me ANYBODY here that agrees with what you are claiming, and thinks that what I'm saying is wrong. If they have any kind of credible argument for you, I'll gladly admit I'm wrong.
Fuck off, you're not this dumb at you? We are talking about shooting inside a home with bird shot. You do know what bird shot is right? Some days you love to be ignorant just to be ignorant and pick a fight. I'm well aware you're doing that right now. Especially with this dumb ass comment.
That there is significant spread on a 12 gauge shotgun from 10 yards? You know you can just look that shit up? With bird shot you've got a good 12 inch spread already at 10 yards. Do you really not shoot shotguns ever? I just assumed you did...Find me ANYBODY here that agrees with what you are claiming, and thinks that what I'm saying is wrong. If they have any kind of credible argument for you, I'll gladly admit I'm wrong.
I'll wait.
I'm no expert but from what I've read, a shotgun is easy to stick a few pellets in someone but that's about it after a few feet. Very easy to clip someone, but if you have anyone who is determined, or out of their minds intoxicated, it's not gonna bring them down if you don't get the full force of all the shot into them. Also, you've got many less rounds before a reload is necessary with a shotgun.If you don't know what you're talking about, you really should refrain from commenting.
First... Assault rifle. There is nothing more "assault' to an AR-15 than a mini-14 ranch rifle. They are both semi-automatic rifles. Nothing more.
Second, unless a shotgun is cut way down (which is illegal) the pattern isn't nearly as big as you are letting on here. A shotgun blast at close quarters, which is what we're talking about in home invasion, wouldn't have much more than a couple inches of spread. Most rooms in a house, aren't more than 30 or so feet across. So, no. It does not mean even a poor shot can hit someone. A shotgun's spread widens the further it goes. That also means, the further the pattern spreads, the less lethal it gets. You shoot a guy with a 12ga at 30 feet, you'll paint the wall behind him with his guts. You shoot a guy with that same gun and load at 100 feet, you'll pepper him with BBs. But the chances of it being a lethal shot are severely diminished.
I say assault rifle just cause it's a commonly used term, but yeah, I know it means Armalite and I know that there is no such thing as an assault rifle.Some people still actually think the AR stands for assault rifle. Au contraire.
Yeah a lot of it depends on the shotgun shell you use as well. Slug shot, bird shot and buck shot will all do vastly different things.I'm no expert but from what I've read, a shotgun is easy to stick a few pellets in someone but that's about it after a few feet. Very easy to clip someone, but if you have anyone who is determined, or out of their minds intoxicated, it's not gonna bring them down if you don't get the full force of all the shot into them. Also, you've got many less rounds before a reload is necessary with a shotgun.
Seriosly, it depends on what you want it for. If it's for home defense, my recommendation would be a shotgun. If it's for target and small game shooting then an AR would be good. Any number of them would be fine as most are what is called mil spec. In other wards all the parts meet the standards and can be used in the others. Ruger makes a nice inexpensive AR, so does Smith and Wesson and a few others. Kinda depends on how much you want to spend too.I haven’t read this thread yet but I plan to.
I think I’m gonna be getting my first AR, in fact my first weapon of any kind.
I’ve already done some research and have an idea of why I want, but any suggestions?
Last week I bought a model 17 Gen 5. My plan is to trick this one out with a better trigger, threaded barrel, maybe a fancy lightened slide and a suppressor. Going to get the Dead Air Ghost M for a 45 so I can use it on a variety of guns. I did go shoot it stock though and it's amazingly smooth and accurate as is.I’ve been a fan of the Glock 22 for many years. It isn’t the most accurate weapon I’ve ever fired, but I really like it.
Thise weapons are almost too pretty to shoot.Last week I bought a model 17 Gen 5. My plan is to trick this one out with a better trigger, threaded barrel, maybe a fancy lightened slide and a suppressor. Going to get the Dead Air Ghost M for a 45 so I can use it on a variety of guns. I did go shoot it stock though and it's amazingly smooth and accurate as is.
Also, I was working on my fence last Friday and a friend of mine dropped by. He is a construction guy but makes money in shooting competitions as well. He had done some work a short while back for the guy that owns a company called Infinity Arms. They are the kind of guns Multi would buy! This gun was a 1911 style 9mm, Slide breaks just behind the front site so it never moves when the gun cycles. action as smooth as glass like it was made of teflon and lubed in silicone. I mean truly amazing. I want one, but they start at $4000.
http://www.sviguns.com/
[MENTION=24]mschmidt64[/MENTION]Ok, so this is the rifle I ordered:
https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/mp-15-sport-ii-optics-ready
I got it on another website, gunprime.com, for $449 though. Seems like a killer deal. When I went into my local dealer for the FFL license, I was showing him the order paperwork, and he goes, "Wow. That's an awesome price."
I got it "optics ready" because I didn't like the A-frame sights. I want to buy low profile flip up iron sights.
I also want to replace the handguard. I can't decide if I want a magpul m-lok handguard/rail system, or a picatinny quad rail. Either would have to be drop-in cause the barrel is not free floating. Any recommendations? But I think I can get a cheap one of either for about $30.
Need to get a locking case, ear protection, and a 2nd/3rd magazine too, but that's stuff's easy.
Yeah, so I was gonna put a Leapers UTG 15" Drop In Carbine Length Super Slim handguard on it, for $103. The "carbine length" drop in still attached at the delta ring and the gas block, at carbine length, but only the bottom part. So only the bottom part was 7". The top part was 15" long, and didn't attach to the rifle at all, it screwed into the 7" bottom part, which was "dropped in." The 15" top part then had a hole where the gas block and A-Frame sights could protrude.[MENTION=24]mschmidt64[/MENTION]
They are practically giving AR's away right now.
I have the same one you bought.
Hand guards are a great upgrade....look around at places like Primary Arms and Cheaper than Dirt for some good deals. Leapers are one of my favs. If you look around you can find them on sale for 70 bucks or so. IMO, you are wasting your money if you go with a 2 piece guard.
Let me know if you need any help, or if you want I'd be glad to install the guard for ya. I have all the holding fixtures and torque wrench, along with any tools to take the barrel off and install the handguard.
I put a UTG on mine.
Imgur.Damn DCC not letting me upload a decent sized picture.
Don't want to upload to facebook. Where is a quick file upload service I can use?