Eatman: Pointing To Depth Of Draft, Jones Hints At Possible Trades

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Seriously though...the bright shiny things Teh J would move up for I would guess is Ansah, Lotulelei, or Lane Johnson.
I think Teh Jerruh would be more Ansah, Austin maybe Lotulei.
 

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What if it is pick 16 & Warmack or Cooper is still available? What if the price to move in that scenario is #18 plus our 3rd for #16 and their 4th (or a similar deal). I think it'd be worth it.
 
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It would absolutely be worth it. It's essentially a trade down in the 3rd round to secure an elite prospect.

No brainer.
 

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What if it is pick 16 & Warmack or Cooper is still available? What if the price to move in that scenario is #18 plus our 3rd for #16 and their 4th (or a similar deal). I think it'd be worth it.
Yeah, I pull the trigger there because I'm not losing a pick.
 

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For Warmack I would. Cooper probably not. I know the experts rank them closely but to me they are in two separate tiers in this draft.
You're crazy.
 

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They are not on separate tiers, IMO. I think they are pretty close to each other. I think it goes Warmack/Cooper and then second tier.
 

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They are not on separate tiers, IMO. I think they are pretty close to each other. I think it goes Warmack/Cooper and then second tier.
To me Warmack is in that elite talent. One of the best guard prospects I can remember in the last decade. Cooper is the type of guard you see in every draft. Still a first round draft pick in his own right but he isn't what I would classify as truly elite.
 

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I disagree. I will leave it at that.
 

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I would agree that Warmack is a cut above Cooper in terms of dominance at the guard position.
 

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To me Warmack is in that elite talent. One of the best guard prospects I can remember in the last decade. Cooper is the type of guard you see in every draft. Still a first round draft pick in his own right but he isn't what I would classify as truly elite.
So in every draft there is a guard who is a consensus top 15 pick?

Cooper is an elite Talent in any draft.
 

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I would agree that Warmack is a cut above Cooper in terms of dominance at the guard position.
Dominance? As in who is capable of taking a guy out? Warmack would win a bar fight...that's the guy I take.
 

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So in every draft there is a guard who is a consensus top 15 pick?

Cooper is an elite Talent in any draft.
Sure, but so is Warmack. Pick your poison. Finesse or power.

I take the strong guy every time.
 

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To me Warmack is in that elite talent. One of the best guard prospects I can remember in the last decade. Cooper is the type of guard you see in every draft. Still a first round draft pick in his own right but he isn't what I would classify as truly elite.
You are downing Cooper.

But I will say this...I do think people are going overboard with Cooper moreso than Warmack because of his athleticism.

Different kinds of players. But to call Cooper a dominant guard is a bit of a stretch. I don't know if he has the right makeup to be that 10 year grinder that most of the good ones are.
 

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Sure, but so is Warmack. Pick your poison. Finesse or power.

I take the strong guy every time.
Cooper had 35 reps at combine and led NC every year in knockdown blocks, 41 last year.

Just because you are a great athlete does not mean your weak, he reminds me a lot of Randal Mcdaniel
 

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Randall McDaniel was somewhat overrated compared with the hype over his career, but even so he was a stud. He always made pro bowls, but I didn't see him as a difference-maker.

Warmack is less powerful than Larry Allen, but he moves like Will Shields. I take that guy even if I have to trade up to do it. Cooper I draft if he falls to me, but I don't expect an extra special player.
 

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You are downing Cooper.

But I will say this...I do think people are going overboard with Cooper moreso than Warmack because of his athleticism.

Different kinds of players. But to call Cooper a do>minant guard is a bit of a stretch. I don't know if he has the right makeup to be that 10 year grinder that most of the good ones are.
Why is it a stretch?

Read this, he sounds like he is a FOOTBALL PLAYA.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/shutdown-50-north-carolina-og-jonathan-cooper-020745384--nfl.html;_ylt=A2KJjajXenhR8FAAzbBNbK5_
 
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