The Coronavirus Thread...

[jsmith6919]

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Why do the Democrats want to protect China so bad...

 

[Cotton]

Why do the Democrats want to protect China so bad...

Nike, NBA, Apple, etc.

They are in bed with all of them, and every one of them have sweatshop associations in China.

 

[NoDak]

Nike, NBA, Apple, etc.

They are in bed with all of them, and every one of them have sweatshop associations in China.

And those kickbacks/bribes add up quickly. How else do you explain a career politician with a net worth in the tens of millions? One or two I could maybe understand. But there are a shit ton of very rich politicians, on both sides of the aisle.

 

[Sheik]

Why do the Democrats want to protect China so bad...

The democrats are pro everything but America and Russia.

 

[yimyammer]

I have no proof whatsoever, but I was in contact with the county office where I live, talking to them about building requirements for a private school. I was trying to decide on a few buildings in my area that are vacant, to just to see which would require the least amount of renovation.

Radio silence now. I can’t get in touch with the two people who were talking with me a few weeks ago. I call, I get voicemail. I call the directory desk, she transfers me, voicemail. I leave messages, where at first I’d get a response at worst a day later, nothing now.

I suspect it’s because that’s the fight the unions are fighting right now. They want all private schools shit down.

Again, no proof, but I find it very convenient that I can’t get fuck all information out of the country right now.

I've been building in Dallas for almost 30 years and if I've gotten 2 call backs in all that time from someone working at the city, there's a great chance I've grossly exaggerated the truth. These damn government bureaucracies become cold machines that care nothing about anything but pain avoidance; they are not held to account for their lack of courtesy, not calling people back and I'm convinced most are merely holding on for dear life to reach retirement so they can finally be free of their stressful 8 to 4:30 job they toiled away at for so many years. I suspect its not much different where you are.

If I want to get anything done or get answers to questions, I have to get in my truck and drive down there and meet with them face to face. Be sure to have done your homework because their position will always be:

"when in doubt, say no"

I want to create a food & beverage concept out of a shipping container and went to the city to discuss the requirements and I couldn't even get the word "container" off my lips before the man cut me off and said you cannot do food and beverage out of a conveyance (aka container).

I siad, I'll buy you lunch right now at one within walking distance of this building that will prove otherwise.

He said not true plus I'm not allowed to take free lunches, so I said, ok, look it up on google.

We did

He saw it

looked at me and said: " huh, look at that, I guess you're right"

I'm thinking you sorry mutha-f.... If I hadn't known it was possible and didn't have the tenacity to fight back, I would have left thinking it couldn't be done.

Fucking obstructionist assholes that know-nothing about building anything, creating anything or trying to do either of the latter within the tortuous labyrinth of obstacles one has to navigate to actually pull off either of the above.

Its infuriating that what I do gives these fuckers their jobs in the first place and my reward is being treated like I'm committing crimes if I try to think outside the box and re-purpose something like a container, which we have way too many of because China ships their goods one way for the most part resulting in an over supply of containers in the states.

and government just keeps getting bigger......

 

[Sheik]

I've been building in Dallas for almost 30 years and if I've gotten 2 call backs in all that time from someone working at the city, there's a great chance I've grossly exaggerated the truth. These damn government bureaucracies become cold machines that care nothing about anything but pain avoidance; they are not held to account for their lack of courtesy, not calling people back and I'm convinced most are merely holding on for dear life to reach retirement so they can finally be free of their stressful 8 to 4:30 job they toiled away at for so many years. I suspect its not much different where you are.

If I want to get anything done or get answers to questions, I have to get in my truck and drive down there and meet with them face to face. Be sure to have done your homework because their position will always be:

"when in doubt, say no"

I want to create a food & beverage concept out of a shipping container and went to the city to discuss the requirements and I couldn't even get the word "container" off my lips before the man cut me off and said you cannot do food and beverage out of a conveyance (aka container).

I siad, I'll buy you lunch right now at one within walking distance of this building that will prove otherwise.

He said not true plus I'm not allowed to take free lunches, so I said, ok, look it up on google.

We did

He saw it

looked at me and said: " huh, look at that, I guess you're right"

I'm thinking you sorry mutha-f.... If I hadn't known it was possible and didn't have the tenacity to fight back, I would have left thinking it couldn't be done.

Fucking obstructionist assholes that know-nothing about building anything, creating anything or trying to do either of the latter within the tortuous labyrinth of obstacles one has to navigate to actually pull off either of the above.

Its infuriating that what I do gives these fuckers their jobs in the first place and my reward is being treated like I'm committing crimes if I try to think outside the box and re-purpose something like a container, which we have way too many of because China ships their goods one way for the most part resulting in an over supply of containers in the states.

and government just keeps getting bigger......

Damn, it’s the same everywhere then.

I was surprised when I was getting call backs and help on this issue, but it didn’t last long for whatever reason.

I’ve dealt with the same bullshit in the past, though.

I was a roofing contractor for years, I had one especially bad/great experience with the city inspectors and head of the building department.

Here, when you do a tear off and recover, it takes 2-3 inspections depending on which jurisdiction you’re in.

I was doing a roof about 5-6 years ago, my guys tore it off, sheeted it and nailed it off. I called in for a sheeting and nailing inspection for the following day. The next day I showed up about 4:30pm to see if the permit was hung up by the inspector and signed off so we could shingle it the following day. There was no permit, so I was like “wtf?”.

I called the city, asked them what happened, the person on the other side of the phone assured me the inspector had been there and we were good to go. Following day we shingled it and called in for a final inspection for the next day.

About 1:30 the next day I’m waiting for the inspector. He shows up, walks up to me and starts asking me what I’m the hell I thought I was doing finishing the job before I got a sheeting inspection.

I calmly explained I had been assured he’d already been there, singed it off, and didn’t leave the permit card by mistake. He would have one of it. He assured me I’d half to rip off half of the roof, areas he selected, and then reroof the areas he wanted to see, to which I told him with a chuckle “bullshit, I’ll see you back at your offices along with your boss before closing time today.”.

I was down there waiting for that particular inspector to get back from his route, already explained the situation to his boss. When they both had a moment to talk about it alone, they came over to me and told me by law I have to tear off 4 10’x10’ sections to reveal the sheeting and nailing of the inspector choice.

I told him that was fucking stupid. I paid for the permit, left it open for the inspector, called it in, then was told it was inspected by their permit department and to go with it. They both didn’t seem to give a shit.

Finally I had enough. I told them I wanted both of their business cards. I’d be tearing off 4 10’x10’ areas, purchasing the replacement materials, and doing it the next morning.

Then I told them I’d be billing their department for the labor and materials. After that the head guy relented and said this time he’s let it slide, but next time it would be a problem. I just laughed and told him there would have been no problem if his department could get there shit together and not ghost an inspection and then have their operator telling contractors that it was inspected and to go on with the job.

I am so god damned happy I don’t have to deal with inspectors on that level anymore. I’ve had some of the worst arguments of my life with inspectors.

I did have one absolute dream of an experience with a county about 1.5 hours away from me.

They only require final inspections on all of their permits. They don’t fuck with you unless you are a homeowner doing the work yourself. If you have a license and insurance/bond, they let you do whatever you want. The guy told me “that’s why you have all the licenses and shit, you’re liable if something goes wrong, not the inspectors.”. Beautiful attitude.

 

[Cotton]

Damn, it’s the same everywhere then.

I was surprised when I was getting call backs and help on this issue, but it didn’t last long for whatever reason.

I’ve dealt with the same bullshit in the past, though.

I was a roofing contractor for years, I had one especially bad/great experience with the city inspectors and head of the building department.

Here, when you do a tear off and recover, it takes 2-3 inspections depending on which jurisdiction you’re in.

I was doing a roof about 5-6 years ago, my guys tore it off, sheeted it and nailed it off. I called in for a sheeting and nailing inspection for the following day. The next day I showed up about 4:30pm to see if the permit was hung up by the inspector and signed off so we could shingle it the following day. There was no permit, so I was like “wtf?”.

I called the city, asked them what happened, the person on the other side of the phone assured me the inspector had been there and we were good to go. Following day we shingled it and called in for a final inspection for the next day.

About 1:30 the next day I’m waiting for the inspector. He shows up, walks up to me and starts asking me what I’m the hell I thought I was doing finishing the job before I got a sheeting inspection.

I calmly explained I had been assured he’d already been there, singed it off, and didn’t leave the permit card by mistake. He would have one of it. He assured me I’d half to rip off half of the roof, areas he selected, and then reroof the areas he wanted to see, to which I told him with a chuckle “bullshit, I’ll see you back at your offices along with your boss before closing time today.”.

I was down there waiting for that particular inspector to get back from his route, already explained the situation to his boss. When they both had a moment to talk about it alone, they came over to me and told me by law I have to tear off 4 10’x10’ sections to reveal the sheeting and nailing of the inspector choice.

I told him that was fucking stupid. I paid for the permit, left it open for the inspector, called it in, then was told it was inspected by their permit department and to go with it. They both didn’t seem to give a shit.

Finally I had enough. I told them I wanted both of their business cards. I’d be tearing off 4 10’x10’ areas, purchasing the replacement materials, and doing it the next morning.

Then I told them I’d be billing their department for the labor and materials. After that the head guy relented and said this time he’s let it slide, but next time it would be a problem. I just laughed and told him there would have been no problem if his department could get there shit together and not ghost an inspection and then have their operator telling contractors that it was inspected and to go on with the job.

I am so god damned happy I don’t have to deal with inspectors on that level anymore. I’ve had some of the worst arguments of my life with inspectors.

I did have one absolute dream of an experience with a county about 1.5 hours away from me.

They only require final inspections on all of their permits. They don’t fuck with you unless you are a homeowner doing the work yourself. If you have a license and insurance/bond, they let you do whatever you want. The guy told me “that’s why you have all the licenses and shit, you’re liable if something goes wrong, not the inspectors.”. Beautiful attitude.

Dude, you need to GTFO of California.

 

[yimyammer]

I feel your (Sheik) pain and anger, fucking yahoos

I cant believe you have to get an inspection before you roof, thank gawd we dont have that requirement (yet?). We just rip it off, install new decking if necessary, heating and rack n roll

I'd doing 4 remodels on properties I own and I haven't pulled permits so far (I would never take this chance if I was working for a homeowner--I'll never work for homeowners again), it may bite me in the ass but I'm taking the ask forgiveness approach and hoping we button everything up before anyone is the wiser.

Mine are rental properties and now the city is pushing to have landlords register all their properties and have annual inspections because some landlords are jackass slum lords that dont take care of their properties so in the "wisdom" of the city, we all have to suffer and basically meet with minders once a year to confirm we are following the laws.

Theres already a code in place and tenants can report violations so why the fuck do I have to have annual inspections?

Isn't that like forcing all citizens to have a minder observe their life once a year to make sure they are following all laws?

We're trying to fight it and I dont think its gone 100% required yet but one of those fuckers caught me on my job about a month ago and claimed I had to register or be fined but when I read his paperwork, no where did it say I would be fined, so I ignored it.

I'll probably get fined anyway

Look at my houses, do I look like I need some schmuck at the city to tell me how to take care of my property?

 

[Sheik]

Those are beautiful pics.

It’s gotten so bad here, at the end of my time in the trades, if you pulled a permit and the valuation of the entire job with materials and labor was over $1,200.00, you had to install CO2 and smoke alarms throughout the home before you could get your roofing permit signed off.

I’m there to do a roof, but now I have to play daddy and make sure these knuckleheads have carbon monoxide detectors and smoke detectors too? Why? They aren’t responsible adults?

You know how many times I had checks held up for weeks because the home owner was t available let an inspector in their home to make sure I installed all the detectors properly?

It’s stupid.

 

[Sheik]

Dude, you need to GTFO of California.

I know it.

 

[yimyammer]

Those are beautiful pics.

It’s gotten so bad here, at the end of my time in the trades, if you pulled a permit and the valuation of the entire job with materials and labor was over $1,200.00, you had to install CO2 and smoke alarms throughout the home before you could get your roofing permit signed off.

I’m there to do a roof, but now I have to play daddy and make sure these knuckleheads have carbon monoxide detectors and smoke detectors too? Why? They aren’t responsible adults?

You know how many times I had checks held up for weeks because the home owner was t available let an inspector in their home to make sure I installed all the detectors properly?

It’s stupid.

Thx

These fucking rules get passed while people like you and I are getting shit done because the people it effects don't have time to fight it

The IRS requires all of us to be the gestapo and report everyone we pay $650 or more in any given year to them or face a fine

why the fuck do I have to do that?

defund the IRS!

 

[yimyammer]

I know it.

I got a tiny diner I'm designing and building, come on down and sling some tasty vittles

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[Sheik]

I got a tiny diner I'm designing and building, come on down and sling some tasty vittles

Deal.

 

[jsmith6919]

I wish I was closer, I'd show with some friends open carrying ARs as an honor guard and say we are protesting when asked. Will even wear hawaiian shirts just for booze

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[NoDak]

Absolutely. This do as I say, not as I do bullshit by our fucking so-called ruling class has to stop.

 

[jsmith6919]

Absolutely. This do as I say, not as I do bullshit by our fucking so-called ruling class has to stop.

They damn sure arent going to like the new rules of warfare

 

[Sheik]

They damn sure arent going to like the new rules of warfare if us so called boogaloos actually join in. I have maybe 10% of the arsenal most of these guys do an even I have a long range 308 Norma mag custom on a 700 frame. GL fighting rednecks picking people off from 1k yards out

LT is sharpening his bayonet as we speak.