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I'm sure Jason Witten's 4-yard square-outs and getting tackled immediately don't help the YAC stats.
 

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Tells me that the receivers are pretty much covered when they make the catch . Not really a good stat. YAC usually means receivers are open with room to run. Dallas receivers need to get the ball quicker. DAK waits too long to throw.
Dak Prescott was seventh-longest in the league in Time to Throw. He was 0.37 seconds behind the fastest.

 

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Dak Prescott was seventh-longest in the league in Time to Throw. He was 0.37 seconds behind the fastest.

If he was taking sacks I would care. But Dak threw the ball further oer catch than almost any other QB. We had very few quick desined throws. Also why our YAC was low. Dak didn't get the 3 yard reciever screens that go for 60 yards.
 

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If he was taking sacks I would care. But Dak threw the ball further oer catch than almost any other QB. We had very few quick desined throws. Also why our YAC was low. Dak didn't get the 3 yard reciever screens that go for 60 yards.
Doesn’t address YAC. Doesn’t matter how far it was thrown the reciever was downed almost immediately. He has always had a slow read and release. He is getting better but he still takes too long waiting for the reciever to get separation rather than throwing to where the receiver is going.
 

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Doesn’t address YAC. Doesn’t matter how far it was thrown the reciever was downed almost immediately. He has always had a slow read and release. He is getting better but he still takes too long waiting for the reciever to get separation rather than throwing to where the receiver is going.
Ugh but it does. Quick short designed throws are where teams get all there YAC. We threw less than anybody else in the NFL. That's why the air yards per pass were so high for Dak compared to other QBs. Dak almost never got to throw those quick easy passes. No offense but if Dak was holding the ball "too long" he would have had more than the 23 sacks or so he took on the year.
 

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Ugh but it does. Quick short designed throws are where teams get all there YAC. We threw less than anybody else in the NFL. That's why the air yards per pass were so high for Dak compared to other QBs. Dak almost never got to throw those quick easy passes. No offense but if Dak was holding the ball "too long" he would have had more than the 23 sacks or so he took on the year.
The other side of the coin is that receivers are tackled almost immediately after the catch.
 

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The other side of the coin is that receivers are tackled almost immediately after the catch.
Yeah when you throw downfield that's going to happen a lot more. When you run a lot of comeback routes, that's going to happen. When you have the slowest and worst running TE in the league that's going to happen. When Zeke runs a route and is tackled almost immediately every time that's going to happen.
 

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Yeah when you throw downfield that's going to happen a lot more. When you run a lot of comeback routes, that's going to happen. When you have the slowest and worst running TE in the league that's going to happen. When Zeke runs a route and is tackled almost immediately every time that's going to happen.
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Well that was a childish response. Not sure I've ever seen anyone try to blame the QB for an offense having no YAC.
Do you ever recall serving up that response ? I gave my reasons. It might also be an indication that the reciever has reached the end of his route and is immobile and waiting for the throw opposed to hitting a reciever that is running his route and the ball is delivered while the receiver is moving.
 
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If he was taking sacks I would care. But Dak threw the ball further oer catch than almost any other QB. We had very few quick desined throws. Also why our YAC was low. Dak didn't get the 3 yard reciever screens that go for 60 yards.
Despite seventh-lowest YAC, Dak Prescott was 4th highest in Yards-per-Completion, same 12.6 as Patrick Mahomes.

 

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Do you ever recall serving up that response ? I gave my reasons. It might also be an indication that the reciever has reached the end of his route and is immobile and waiting for the throw opposed to hitting a reciever that is running his route and the ball is delivered while the receiver is moving.
Nope. Don't recall giving you that response.
 

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Despite seventh-lowest YAC, Dak Prescott was 4th highest in Yards-per-Completion, same 12.6 as Patrick Mahomes.

Behind juggernauts Tannehil, Winston, and Stafford.

Dak had a good statistical year and has as expected improved since his rookie season. And his team helped him. A lot.

Mark Rypien led all QBs in this stat in 1991 with 14.3 Y/C.

Dude disappeared when his team eroded around him because he wasn’t the difference-maker that his OL, WRs, and RBs were.

All I know is Dak’s better than average and needs to improve his accuracy and aggressiveness.
 

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Meaning Dallas has no plan but to unleash it’s QB.

There is no commitment to powerful players up front on the defensive side of the ball, just the edge players and CBs.

Dak still takes what the defense gives him. When he has the total supporting cast, he’s productive. I think many QBs would be productive with Dallas’ OL, Zeke, and Cooper at full strength.
 

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Meaning Dallas has no plan but to unleash it’s QB.

There is no commitment to powerful players up front on the defensive side of the ball, just the edge players and CBs.
You do realize Garrett and Marinelli aren’t with the team anymore, right? Let’s not use the old mantras and start forming new ones to gripe about. This is a new day with the team. We have no idea what this staff will be committed to or not.
 

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Ugh but it does. Quick short designed throws are where teams get all there YAC. We threw less than anybody else in the NFL. That's why the air yards per pass were so high for Dak compared to other QBs. Dak almost never got to throw those quick easy passes. No offense but if Dak was holding the ball "too long" he would have had more than the 23 sacks or so he took on the year.
Agree. Garrett was allergic to rub routes, shallow crossing patterns, quick slants. That kind of scheme generates YAC. Red Pube's scheme run down the field for 12 yards and turn around or find an open spot in the zone.
 
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