Gosselin: Tony Romo the better passer, but Peyton Manning the better quarterback

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Gosselin: Tony Romo the better passer, but Peyton Manning the better quarterback in Dallas Cowboys loss to Denver Broncos

Rick Gosselin

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Published: 06 October 2013 10:59 PM

ARLINGTON — Sunday was that rare afternoon that Peyton Manning was not the best passer on the field.

Give Tony Romo the nod with his franchise-record 506 yards and five touchdowns for the Cowboys. Chalk Manning up as the runner-up arm on this day with his 414 yards and four touchdowns.

But Manning was again the best quarterback on the field — and that’s why the Broncos remained unbeaten with a heart-thumping 51-48 victory over the Cowboys. The great passers pass, the great quarterbacks win.

Romo made the big plays, completing passes of 82 yards to Terrance Williams and 79 to Dez Bryant. He threw six other completions longer than 25 yards. That displayed Romo’s merit as a passer.

But two little plays displayed Manning’s mettle as a quarterback. One was a read, the other an argument.

Let’s start with the argument.

Romo gave the Broncos their only gift of the day, throwing an interception on his 36th and final pass of the game. That set the Broncos up at the Dallas 24 at the two-minute warning with the score tied, 48-48.

Manning completed a 13-yard pass to Demaryius Thomas on first down, and two plays later hit tight end Julius Thomas on a swing pass for 8 more yards to the Dallas 2. The Cowboys began burning their timeouts in an attempt to save some clock for themselves in the event that the Broncos scored. But there was one problem with that strategy.

“We communicated to the offense that we did not want to score,” Broncos coach John Fox said.

Then came the argument. On a third-and-1 at the 2, Manning called a handoff over the right side to Knowshon Moreno. He also gave him two orders in the huddle — get the first down, but don’t score.

“The difference was about a half a yard, and Knowshon and I were arguing about it,” Manning said. “He was asking me, ‘How am I supposed to do that? How can I get down without getting in?’ I said, ‘You cannot, you cannot, you cannot score. You’ve got to get a first down so we can kick a field goal and we can get out of this place.’”

Moreno did just that, squeezing out a yard for the first down. That allowed Manning to run out the final 95 seconds with reverse keepers, backing the Broncos up to the 10. Then Manning called a timeout with two seconds left to set up the game-winning field goal by Matt Prater.

Manning doesn’t lose arguments with teammates. Not when he’s the most prepared guy in the building and everyone on his sideline knows it.

Manning put his preparation on display in the second quarter, this time with that read.

Again at the Dallas 1, clinging to a 21-17 lead, Manning called another handoff on the right side on third down. But he didn’t hand the ball off. Instead, he trotted untouched and virtually unnoticed around left end for his first rushing touchdown since 2008.

“I’ve found that naked bootlegs only work when you don’t tell anyone,” Manning said. “That’s the only way to get the linemen to fire off for an inside play to the right. The harder they go, the more it sells it.

“You call the run play and you make a decision at the line of scrimmage, based on the look. We brought Julius in motion, and as soon as the guy covering went with him, I thought, that’s a good look for it. The key is you only do it about every five years or so. I’ll be retired by the time I’m ready to do it again.”

For the rest of the day, Manning showed why he is the NFL’s best quarterback in 2013 and his Broncos are 5-0. Denver had 12 possessions on the day and scored on 10 of them.

The other two ended in turnovers — an Eric Decker fumble after a 16-yard completion on Denver’s first possession of the game, and an interception thrown by Manning in the third quarter when Decker drifted too far outside on a deep route.

Down 14-0 in the first quarter, Manning engineered five consecutive touchdown drives to power the Broncos into a 35-20 lead by the third quarter. When the Cowboys took their first lead with 7:19 remaining, Manning marched the Broncos 73 yards on nine plays to tie it at 48-48.

Then came Romo’s gift.

Few teams are able to go pass-for-pass and point-for-point with the Broncos. Romo and the Cowboys managed to go pass-for-pass, but the goal is to win the game. And this season, no one has done that better than Manning.
 

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“I’ve found that naked bootlegs only work when you don’t tell anyone,” Manning said. “That’s the only way to get the linemen to fire off for an inside play to the right. The harder they go, the more it sells it.

“You call the run play and you make a decision at the line of scrimmage, based on the look. We brought Julius in motion, and as soon as the guy covering went with him, I thought, that’s a good look for it. The key is you only do it about every five years or so. I’ll be retired by the time I’m ready to do it again.”
The guy is a master at the top of his craft right now.

It will be a shame if he does not win the Super Bowl this year.
 

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For the rest of the day, Manning showed why he is the NFL’s best quarterback in 2013 and his Broncos are 5-0. Denver had 12 possessions on the day and scored on 10 of them.
But our defense did it's job.
 
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Someone mentioned in the chatter thread he thought the D did it's job. I think he was referring to holding the Colts to a FG late which tied the game instead of giving the lead. Otherwise, they were beyond horrific just like every other D that faces Denver.
 

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Timestamp: Today, 07:33 AM

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10/07/13 9:36am Today 9:36am





[h=1]Tony Romo Was Tony Romo, Until He Was Tony Romo[/h]



Broncos-Cowboys was the most satisfying game of the season, and not just because it was the sort of record-breaking, no-defense, aerial shootout the NFL seems to be moving toward. No matter what your opinion of Tony Romo coming in, it was confirmed. A win for the Broncos, perhaps a moral victory for the Cowboys, but above all a banner day for narrative.


Tony Romo's final line: 25 of 36 passing for 506 yards, five touchdowns, and one back-breaking interception. Those 506 yards are a Cowboys record, and 12th on the all-time list. Dallas's 48 points in defeat are one shy of the pro record (a 1963 AFL game) and tie an NFL record.

But: that interception. Late in a tie game with the Cowboys deep in their own territory, Romo forced a ball to Gavin Escobar that was snagged by Danny Trevathan. Surprise wasn't in it; You could almost hear Sisyphus's boulder rolling downhill.

Everything that could go wrong on that play did. The two-minute warning was approaching on a second-and-long, meaning the clock would stop no matter what and if Dallas wasn't able to reach the down marker, Denver would get the ball with time left. The pocket collapsed, and Romo's footwork was awkward and constrained. He was seeking a rookie TE with only four NFL catches to his name. And Escobar was in triple-coverage.

Romo didn't blame any of that. "I wanted to put it another two feet out in front," he said afterward, "and I didn't put it exactly where I needed to."

The praise for his game was effusive. "I am so proud of Romo," said owner Jerry Jones, who called his quarterback "tough as a boot." But almost as common was the straw-man argument admonishing everyone not to blame the loss on Romo. Well, no shit—the man threw for five scores in a game where his defense couldn't stop a thing. Without Romo slinging, the Cowboys lose by multiple scores, like most of Denver's opponents.

But can't it be both? Are we so incapable of shaded analysis that we can't celebrate a wonderful game from one of the NFL's better quarterbacks while also acknowledging that he committed a turnover at a time when a turnover would mean the game? Is it really so hard to believe that a guy who would throw into triple coverage when an INT would be fatal is the same one who can do something like this?



Romo's career is incapable of being summed up with a pithy descriptor, and that's bad because complexity is hard. Instead he gets saddled as a good QB (when the numbers say he's probably great) who falls off after Thanksgiving (when the numbers disagree) and tends to choke in the clutch (when the numbers say he's among the best). Basically, he's Dan Marino and needs a ring to become John Elway.

As tough as complicated career legacies are, individual games are even harder. It should be enough to say Romo was godlike for 58 minutes and boneheaded for one split-second. But in a 16-game season, the cold calculus of wins and losses leaves little room for nuance. The Cowboys lost when the Broncos scored last after Tony Romo turned it over. Whatever baggage you unpack from that sequence is yours, not Romo's.
 

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Romo's career is incapable of being summed up with a pithy descriptor, and that's bad because complexity is hard. Instead he gets saddled as a good QB (when the numbers say he's probably great) who falls off after Thanksgiving (when the numbers disagree) and tends to choke in the clutch (when the numbers say he's among the best). Basically, he's Dan Marino and needs a ring to become John Elway.
Sums up Romo perfectly.
 

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Sums up Romo perfectly.
How on earth could he be in Elway's class...ever?

Elway took deeply flawed football teams to Super Bowls. Lost them, but he got them there.

Romo has had similar deeply flawed teams and failed on multiple occasions to take hoist them on his back and get them over the hump.d

He will never ever be Elway even before his final breakthrough.

Hell, he's got a ways to go before becoming Danny White.
 

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How on earth could he be in Elway's class...ever?

Elway took deeply flawed football teams to Super Bowls. Lost them, but he got them there.

Romo has had similar deeply flawed teams and failed on multiple occasions to take hoist them on his back and get them over the hump.d

He will never ever be Elway even before his final breakthrough.

Hell, he's got a ways to go before becoming Danny White.
I know man.

Quinthy Part Du
 

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I know man.

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:lol

Just because you'd make love to Romo doesn't mean you have to make a comment that stupid.

The defense was the biggest reason we lost, but Romo made a huge mistake that was the most critical in the game.....as he's always done.

But with you,. he does no wrong. We get it.
 
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Sums up Romo perfectly.
Kidd, please stop. You've been a solid poster through a lot of DCC versions but everytime Romo embarrasses himself, you do the same the next day defending his buffoonery.
 

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Let's see.

The D never forced a punt the whole game.

They did, in fact, extend a few drives for the Broncos with stupid penalties. I think that two unnecessary roughness penalties came in the same drive.

The only reason we were driving for a score instead of running out the clock was because the D let Denver score to tie the game. I screamed and screamed for just one stop...one measly stop. But no. Didn't happen.

Romo comes out and throws a pick (albeit a costly one) and it's all his fault we lose?

Brilliant.

I'm not saying the pick wasn't his fault even if there is a legit argument for it. I'm saying that anyone who is hanging this loss on Romo is a retard.
 

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Let's see.

The D never forced a punt the whole game.

They did, in fact, extend a few drives for the Broncos with stupid penalties. I think that two unnecessary roughness penalties came in the same drive.

The only reason we were driving for a score instead of running out the clock was because the D let Denver score to tie the game. I screamed and screamed for just one stop...one measly stop. But no. Didn't happen.

Romo comes out and throws a pick (albeit a costly one) and it's all his fault we lose?

Brilliant.

I'm not saying the pick wasn't his fault even if there is a legit argument for it. I'm saying that anyone who is hanging this loss on Romo is a retard.
Yeppers.
 

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Let's see.

The D never forced a punt the whole game.

They did, in fact, extend a few drives for the Broncos with stupid penalties. I think that two unnecessary roughness penalties came in the same drive.

The only reason we were driving for a score instead of running out the clock was because the D let Denver score to tie the game. I screamed and screamed for just one stop...one measly stop. But no. Didn't happen.

Romo comes out and throws a pick (albeit a costly one) and it's all his fault we lose?

Brilliant.

I'm not saying the pick wasn't his fault even if there is a legit argument for it. I'm saying that anyone who is hanging this loss on Romo is a retard.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I said more than once that this loss was on the defense, but that Romo made the most critical error in the game - the type of error that he has made many times throughout his career.

To fail and acknowledge or to give him a pass because "we wouldn't have been in the game if it weren't for him" is a loser's angle and one that Jerry Jones would be proud of.
 

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I can't speak for anyone else, but I said more than once that this loss was on the defense, but that Romo made the most critical error in the game - the type of error that he has made many times throughout his career.

To fail and acknowledge or to give him a pass because "we wouldn't have been in the game if it weren't for him" is a loser's angle and one that Jerry Jones would be proud of.
He doesn't get a total pass, but I solidly blame whomever called 17 passes in a row. Denver was in total pass rush and coverage mode. Without the threat of the run, the defense cheats and you can't keep beating a cheating defense. Dallas had 2 minutes of clock to eat and needed to get their most consistent player, Dan Bailey, in range to win the game.

Run the fucking football, dickheads. I guarantee they get no fewer than 5 yards with Denver all keyed up to stop Romo. Instead they pushed their luck, get sacked and then Smith gets bullrushed and knocked into Romo who throws with Escobar off balance lurching upfield and unable to block the defender with his body.
 

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Elway took deeply flawed football teams to Super Bowls. Lost them, but he got them there.
Elway is an all-time great who played in a very weak conference at a time when offenses were just getting good at throwing the ball and defenses still hadn't caught up. Even then Elway was not great statistically, but he'd use his legs when he needed to to keep drives going. And few quarterbacks will ever have the arm Elway did.

But when Elway got his running game and truly good offensive coaching (Shanahan in his prime), he became better than ever. The tragedy was it finally happened when he was in his late 30's.

Romo's stuck in that same never-ending tragedy. Garrett is his Reeves, and Romo's had good Eagles and Giants teams to contend with since arriving in Dallas. He still has the Bobby Humphrey type running backs that aren't quite good enough like DeMarco Murray and average defenses that don't have the advantage of their opponent getting totally gassed in the 4th quarter 8 times a year.
 
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