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Waiting for TrumpTard excuses for this.
Waiting for TrumpTard excuses for this.
President Trump questioned Monday whether Russia was behind the 2016 hacking of the Democratic National Committee's emails.
Trump spoke at a joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland, after the two met for almost two hours behind closed doors.
"Who do you believe?" Associated Press reporter Jonathan Lemire asked Trump, pointing out that U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded Russia was behind the hacks.
He asked whether Trump "with the whole world watching" would "denounce" Russia's actions and warn Putin to never do it again.
“I have great confidence in my intelligence people,” Trump said Monday. “But I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.”
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein announced on Friday the indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers for hacking emails from the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democratic Party during the 2016 election.
The president added that Putin offered to question the officers who were indicted, and that Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his team could be present for it.
"That's an incredible offer," Trump said.
Trump emphasized that the DNC server was never taken by the FBI, adding that he has been asking why the agency was asked to leave the DNC's office.
"Where is the server?" he asked. "I want to know -- where is the server and what is the server saying?"
Furthermore, the president questioned the whereabouts of Hillary Clinton's personal email server, and of the former IT aide to congressional Democrats, Imran Awan.
Earlier in the press conference, Trump called the Mueller probe "ridiculous."
Waiting for TrumpTard excuses for this.
President Trump questioned Monday whether Russia was behind the 2016 hacking of the Democratic National Committee's emails.
Trump spoke at a joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland, after the two met for almost two hours behind closed doors.
"Who do you believe?" Associated Press reporter Jonathan Lemire asked Trump, pointing out that U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded Russia was behind the hacks.
He asked whether Trump "with the whole world watching" would "denounce" Russia's actions and warn Putin to never do it again.
“I have great confidence in my intelligence people,” Trump said Monday. “But I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.”
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein announced on Friday the indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers for hacking emails from the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democratic Party during the 2016 election.
The president added that Putin offered to question the officers who were indicted, and that Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his team could be present for it.
"That's an incredible offer," Trump said.
Trump emphasized that the DNC server was never taken by the FBI, adding that he has been asking why the agency was asked to leave the DNC's office.
"Where is the server?" he asked. "I want to know -- where is the server and what is the server saying?"
Furthermore, the president questioned the whereabouts of Hillary Clinton's personal email server, and of the former IT aide to congressional Democrats, Imran Awan.
Earlier in the press conference, Trump called the Mueller probe "ridiculous."
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"I have president Putin, he just said it's not Russia. I will say this. I don't see any reason why it would be," President Trump said, standing at podium side-by-side with the Russian president during a joint press conference Putin in Helsinki, Finland.
I hope your fucking TrumpTards are happy with your Russian asset "president".
I hope your fucking TrumpTards are happy with your Russian asset "president".
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The most shameful, stunning moment of the Trump presidency
The most shameful, stunning moment of the Trump presidency
President Donald Trump had a golden opportunity on Monday to stare down Russian President Vladimir Putin and tell him, in no uncertain terms, that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election was totally unacceptable, and that if anything like it continued going forward, there would be major and serious penalties to pay.
Instead, standing next to Putin at the US-Russia summit in Helsinki, Trump did the opposite.
"I hold both countries responsible," Trump said in response to a question from the American press about Russia's interference. "I think that the United States has been foolish. We've all been foolish. We're all to blame." He went on to deride the FBI, special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, the US intelligence community.
I mean, WHAT? W-H-A-T?
Make no mistake what happened in Finland on Monday: An American President -- contrary to the unanimous findings of his intelligence community and the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee -- sought to split blame with a foreign adversary who actively interfered in an American election to help him and hurt his opponent. And he did so while standing next to the Russian President -- a man who heads a country that not only sought to sway the 2016 election through interference but also invaded and annexed Crimea and allegedly poisoned a former Russian spy and his daughter on British soil.
It was the most stunning moment yet of a presidency filled with them. (On a domestic scale, his "both sides" response to the racially motivated violence in Charlottesville was equally stunning, but Monday's summit sets a new bar for the global implications of Trump's actions.) Not only has Trump actively worked to realign geopolitics with his attacks on the European Union and NATO but, as of Monday, he made clear that he trusts Putin at least as much -- and maybe more -- than his own intelligence officials.
Asked directly how he reconciled the intelligence community's conclusion that Russia had meddled in the election with Putin's denials, Trump punted -- saying both sides made good points and believed their view strongly. Putin was "extremely strong and powerful in his denials," said Trump. What clearer evidence could you ask for that Trump sees Putin as just as credible as the AMERICAN intelligence community?
I mean, Putin denied he meddled in the election strongly. So we have to believe him, right? RIGHT???
It's impossible to accurately describe how remarkable that sort of equal footing is when it comes to recent US relations with Russia -- particularly as seen from the Republican point of view. Prior to Trump's ascendancy, Republicans had spent the better part of the last four decades casting Russia as a savvy and dangerous enemy. Ronald Reagan famously described the Soviet Union as a bear -- insisting that America needed to be as strong and powerful as Russia as quickly as possible. In the 2012 campaign, Mitt Romney, to some mockery from Democrats, said that Russia was America's No. 1 geopolitical foe.
"There's no question but that in terms of geopolitics -- I'm talking about votes at the United Nations and actions of a geopolitical nature -- Russia is the No. 1 adversary in that regard," he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
The gulf between that sort of rhetoric and what we saw on Monday in Helsinki is as wide as the Grand Canyon. In fact, the difference between Trump's treatment of Russia and Putin and that of his party isn't even the stuff of an intraparty disagreement. It's a disagreement on fundamental principles. It's as though Donald Trump was pro-abortion rights and his party opposed abortion rights. Oh wait ...
The reaction, as you might expect, watching what can only be described as a jaw-dropping performance by the President of the United States was immediate and hugely critical.
"Donald Trump's press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors,'" tweeted former CIA Director John Brennan. "It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump's comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???"
Former Illinois Republican congressman and conservative talk radio host Joe Walsh voiced a similar sentiment. "This press conference is an absolute disgrace," he tweeted. "Trump won't even side with America. What Trump did today was commit treason. He cannot be supported anymore. He is a clear & present danger to America. Republicans can no longer be quiet. I won't be quiet. I am done with him."
There may be a tendency in some circles -- primarily occupied by Trump allies who believe whatever he says -- to cast the sorts of reactions from Brennan and Walsh as just the carping of losers, people who disagree with Trump or who he beat. Sore losers. Haters. Libruls.
Don't fall for it. Trump's decision to throw over the conclusions of his intelligence community (and the Senate Intelligence Committee) because Putin says he didn't meddle in the election has ZERO to do with partisanship. This isn't about Democrats and Republicans. It's about Americans and Russians. Or maybe more accurately, it's about western democracy versus a Russian leader who has made destabilizing the West a long-term goal of his.
Why is President Trump unable or unwilling to see that reality?
Yes, there is the possibility that the Russians have something compromising on him, something he is so embarrassed about that he is willing to ignore the clear and present danger posed by Russia to keep it from going public. Putin denied the existence of any sort of "kompromat" on Trump in the news conference Monday, arguing that he didn't even know Trump was in Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant in 2013. To which I would say: Ask yourself if a former KGB official who is now the president would be unaware of someone as wealthy and high-profile as Trump being in his country. I mean, come on.
Unless and until we find out about whether "kompromat" on Trump actually exists -- and what the compromising information is -- I think the clear motivation for Trump's stunning performance on Monday is his total and complete inability to see beyond his own self-interest.
In Trump's mind, any talk of Russian interference in the election is an attempt to undermine the "brilliant campaign" (his words) he ran in 2016 and somehow invalidate his victory. Why else would Trump launch into an extended riff about his Electoral College margin in front of the President of Russia and almost two years removed from that election? What does Putin care how many electoral votes Trump won? And what difference does it makes anyway? Trump is President. He won. The end.
Conservative pundit Brit Hume summed up Trump's remarkable blindness to anything beyond his own nose in this tweet: "Because Trump is unable to see past himself, he sees the Russia meddling investigation as only about him and the collusion claim, and thus calls it a witch hunt. But the investigations are much more about what Russia did, as the House and Senate reports long since established."
Not everything in the world is about Donald Trump.
Attempting to get to the bottom of the meddling of a foreign power in a US presidential election isn't about trying to hurt Trump. It's way, way, way bigger than that. It's about trying to protect democracy from those who would tear it down from the inside out. A President who can't or won't see that is someone who is actively dangerous not only to the United States but to the world.
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Still better than Hilary, right, TrumpTards?
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The most shameful, stunning moment of the Trump presidency
President Donald Trump had a golden opportunity on Monday to stare down Russian President Vladimir Putin and tell him, in no uncertain terms, that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election was totally unacceptable, and that if anything like it continued going forward, there would be major and serious penalties to pay.
Instead, standing next to Putin at the US-Russia summit in Helsinki, Trump did the opposite.
"I hold both countries responsible," Trump said in response to a question from the American press about Russia's interference. "I think that the United States has been foolish. We've all been foolish. We're all to blame." He went on to deride the FBI, special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, the US intelligence community.
I mean, WHAT? W-H-A-T?
Make no mistake what happened in Finland on Monday: An American President -- contrary to the unanimous findings of his intelligence community and the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee -- sought to split blame with a foreign adversary who actively interfered in an American election to help him and hurt his opponent. And he did so while standing next to the Russian President -- a man who heads a country that not only sought to sway the 2016 election through interference but also invaded and annexed Crimea and allegedly poisoned a former Russian spy and his daughter on British soil.
It was the most stunning moment yet of a presidency filled with them. (On a domestic scale, his "both sides" response to the racially motivated violence in Charlottesville was equally stunning, but Monday's summit sets a new bar for the global implications of Trump's actions.) Not only has Trump actively worked to realign geopolitics with his attacks on the European Union and NATO but, as of Monday, he made clear that he trusts Putin at least as much -- and maybe more -- than his own intelligence officials.
Asked directly how he reconciled the intelligence community's conclusion that Russia had meddled in the election with Putin's denials, Trump punted -- saying both sides made good points and believed their view strongly. Putin was "extremely strong and powerful in his denials," said Trump. What clearer evidence could you ask for that Trump sees Putin as just as credible as the AMERICAN intelligence community?
I mean, Putin denied he meddled in the election strongly. So we have to believe him, right? RIGHT???
It's impossible to accurately describe how remarkable that sort of equal footing is when it comes to recent US relations with Russia -- particularly as seen from the Republican point of view. Prior to Trump's ascendancy, Republicans had spent the better part of the last four decades casting Russia as a savvy and dangerous enemy. Ronald Reagan famously described the Soviet Union as a bear -- insisting that America needed to be as strong and powerful as Russia as quickly as possible. In the 2012 campaign, Mitt Romney, to some mockery from Democrats, said that Russia was America's No. 1 geopolitical foe.
"There's no question but that in terms of geopolitics -- I'm talking about votes at the United Nations and actions of a geopolitical nature -- Russia is the No. 1 adversary in that regard," he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
The gulf between that sort of rhetoric and what we saw on Monday in Helsinki is as wide as the Grand Canyon. In fact, the difference between Trump's treatment of Russia and Putin and that of his party isn't even the stuff of an intraparty disagreement. It's a disagreement on fundamental principles. It's as though Donald Trump was pro-abortion rights and his party opposed abortion rights. Oh wait ...
The reaction, as you might expect, watching what can only be described as a jaw-dropping performance by the President of the United States was immediate and hugely critical.
"Donald Trump's press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors,'" tweeted former CIA Director John Brennan. "It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump's comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???"
Former Illinois Republican congressman and conservative talk radio host Joe Walsh voiced a similar sentiment. "This press conference is an absolute disgrace," he tweeted. "Trump won't even side with America. What Trump did today was commit treason. He cannot be supported anymore. He is a clear & present danger to America. Republicans can no longer be quiet. I won't be quiet. I am done with him."
There may be a tendency in some circles -- primarily occupied by Trump allies who believe whatever he says -- to cast the sorts of reactions from Brennan and Walsh as just the carping of losers, people who disagree with Trump or who he beat. Sore losers. Haters. Libruls.
Don't fall for it. Trump's decision to throw over the conclusions of his intelligence community (and the Senate Intelligence Committee) because Putin says he didn't meddle in the election has ZERO to do with partisanship. This isn't about Democrats and Republicans. It's about Americans and Russians. Or maybe more accurately, it's about western democracy versus a Russian leader who has made destabilizing the West a long-term goal of his.
Why is President Trump unable or unwilling to see that reality?
Yes, there is the possibility that the Russians have something compromising on him, something he is so embarrassed about that he is willing to ignore the clear and present danger posed by Russia to keep it from going public. Putin denied the existence of any sort of "kompromat" on Trump in the news conference Monday, arguing that he didn't even know Trump was in Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant in 2013. To which I would say: Ask yourself if a former KGB official who is now the president would be unaware of someone as wealthy and high-profile as Trump being in his country. I mean, come on.
Unless and until we find out about whether "kompromat" on Trump actually exists -- and what the compromising information is -- I think the clear motivation for Trump's stunning performance on Monday is his total and complete inability to see beyond his own self-interest.
In Trump's mind, any talk of Russian interference in the election is an attempt to undermine the "brilliant campaign" (his words) he ran in 2016 and somehow invalidate his victory. Why else would Trump launch into an extended riff about his Electoral College margin in front of the President of Russia and almost two years removed from that election? What does Putin care how many electoral votes Trump won? And what difference does it makes anyway? Trump is President. He won. The end.
Conservative pundit Brit Hume summed up Trump's remarkable blindness to anything beyond his own nose in this tweet: "Because Trump is unable to see past himself, he sees the Russia meddling investigation as only about him and the collusion claim, and thus calls it a witch hunt. But the investigations are much more about what Russia did, as the House and Senate reports long since established."
Not everything in the world is about Donald Trump.
Attempting to get to the bottom of the meddling of a foreign power in a US presidential election isn't about trying to hurt Trump. It's way, way, way bigger than that. It's about trying to protect democracy from those who would tear it down from the inside out. A President who can't or won't see that is someone who is actively dangerous not only to the United States but to the world.
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Still better than Hilary, right, TrumpTards?
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Absofuckinglutely. Tax cuts, deregulation, simmering economy, record labor force participation, conservatives on the Supreme Court, preliminary talks with North Korea, routing ISIS in Syria, getting skinflint Europeans to pay more for their defense, being tougher on Russia than Obama ever dreamed of being, etc. Life is good.
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Same could be asked of you to provide proof that the extreme left holds office. Centrists generally get elected in both parties. There are extremes in both parties, and size of the government, doesn't negate someone being a part of the extreme right sorry Skid.
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Personal Bias, is slightly different from Professional bias.
One their is proof that Trump is at the very least lying, or an idiot.
Their is no proof, that any personal Bias Strzok had in anyway affected investigations.
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Nonsense. Strzok’s arrogance is the product of a corrupt, politicized FBI, whose agents gave overwhelmingly to Hillary's campaign and let her and her associates walk away scot free. The only thing more scandalous than Russian interference is the fact that an independent prosecutor has yet to be assigned to her case.
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No need to be sorry. I was truly interested in the thoughts of others.
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What were you expecting? You think Trump is going to hog tie Putin and slap him around like one of the three stooges. I am really interested in hearing what your strategy would be of this circumstance while being covered with all the reporters and Tv cameras. It’s not what happens publicaly that is important here, it’s what is hashed out over the next few weeks with the leaders advising their teams about what and how to structure agreements."I have president Putin, he just said it's not Russia. I will say this. I don't see any reason why it would be," President Trump said, standing at podium side-by-side with the Russian president during a joint press conference Putin in Helsinki, Finland.
I hope your fucking TrumpTards are happy with your Russian asset "president".
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Does bias at the level of possible treasonous acts against the President of the United States qualify for your levels? Compare the attitudes of Strzok and his disdain for Trump and his followers who he could almost smell with what the Democrats felt was Trumps motives for establishing a travel ban on certain citizens of certain countries because of what they perceived as a strong bias by the President. Now why isn’t one bias at a personal level equal to at least the same perceived level by the US Judicial system.
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Something a little short of the complete ass kissing spectacle we witnessed. Hey, whaddaya wanna do, he said they didn't do it, good enough for me!
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LT is a very loyal Trump puppy dog.
Dasvidaniya, comrade Fan!!!
Dasvidaniya, comrade Fan!!!
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Seriously, what if that had been Obama up there finishing off Comrade Putin and swallowing?
The reaction from conservatives would be as if the world were about to fucking end.
What do we hear from them now?
Mostly nothing.
Only retiring or terminal office holders are daring to criticize him while the rest of the fucking cowards hold their tongues.
The reaction from conservatives would be as if the world were about to fucking end.
What do we hear from them now?
Mostly nothing.
Only retiring or terminal office holders are daring to criticize him while the rest of the fucking cowards hold their tongues.
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If Dems truly cared about the integrity of elections, Obama would have investigated allegations of Russian inteference when it was first brought to his attention. But Hillary was a "sure thing," so he didn't. BTW, has he apologized to Romney yet?
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When I saw Trump's statement, I immediately thought of this scene from Back to School.
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