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Genghis Khan
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So the Phillies fired Charlie Manuel and hired Ryne Sandberg yesterday.
It's a shame. Manuel was without a doubt a scapegoat. What's happened the past two seasons is not Manuel's fault. The person to blame for the Phillies failures is the man who fired Manuel, GM Ruben Amaro. The players are simply not good enough. Manuel has proven he can win with good players. But this Phillies team has too many holes.
Amaro was handed a World Series roster in 2009 and they have finished one step worse each season since. They've had a payroll above 160 mil for several seasons and yet they've missed the playoffs twice in a row. And probably will miss next season also. To have that much money to spend and fail this miserably is inexcusable.
It is easy to go out and get Cliff Lee or Roy Halladay or Roy Oswalt or Hunter Pence when you are given a blank check and the previous GM left you a stocked farm system. But Amaro has no clue how to build a team.
When you put a lineup together, you can't just thow a collection of hitters together and expect it to work. They don't have players who work counts, get on base, hit for a lot of power, or hit consistently to the opposite field. Ben Revere is a perfect example. They traded for him this offseason and put him in CF. they like him because he can hit .300. Big deal. Amaro specifically said he doesn't care that Rever doesn't walk. That's dumb. Revere has never hit a major league HR. a player like that HAS to walk to be an effective hitter. I don't care if he hits .305. If his OBP is .325 he not very valuable when he has zero power. Amaro doesn't seem to understand this.
He's also had a shitty bench and shitty bullpen for about 3 years. When you have a top 5 payroll these are not hard fixes unless you don't know what you are doing.
A top 5 payroll does not guarantee winning it all every year, but it should get you a lot better than this.
And on top of that, they will probably be in the same boat next year. Because of dumb contracts and Amaro relying on old and broken down players, they have maybe one open spot in the lineup, and they will probably just resign Ruiz. Which means they will return mostly the same lineup and same starting pitching next year and expect different results by shuffling mediocre bullpen and bench pieces.
Yet this was Manuel's fault? Please.
Unfortunately, ownership loves Amaro for some reason so he's not going anyway for the foreseeable future.
It's a shame. Manuel was without a doubt a scapegoat. What's happened the past two seasons is not Manuel's fault. The person to blame for the Phillies failures is the man who fired Manuel, GM Ruben Amaro. The players are simply not good enough. Manuel has proven he can win with good players. But this Phillies team has too many holes.
Amaro was handed a World Series roster in 2009 and they have finished one step worse each season since. They've had a payroll above 160 mil for several seasons and yet they've missed the playoffs twice in a row. And probably will miss next season also. To have that much money to spend and fail this miserably is inexcusable.
It is easy to go out and get Cliff Lee or Roy Halladay or Roy Oswalt or Hunter Pence when you are given a blank check and the previous GM left you a stocked farm system. But Amaro has no clue how to build a team.
When you put a lineup together, you can't just thow a collection of hitters together and expect it to work. They don't have players who work counts, get on base, hit for a lot of power, or hit consistently to the opposite field. Ben Revere is a perfect example. They traded for him this offseason and put him in CF. they like him because he can hit .300. Big deal. Amaro specifically said he doesn't care that Rever doesn't walk. That's dumb. Revere has never hit a major league HR. a player like that HAS to walk to be an effective hitter. I don't care if he hits .305. If his OBP is .325 he not very valuable when he has zero power. Amaro doesn't seem to understand this.
He's also had a shitty bench and shitty bullpen for about 3 years. When you have a top 5 payroll these are not hard fixes unless you don't know what you are doing.
A top 5 payroll does not guarantee winning it all every year, but it should get you a lot better than this.
And on top of that, they will probably be in the same boat next year. Because of dumb contracts and Amaro relying on old and broken down players, they have maybe one open spot in the lineup, and they will probably just resign Ruiz. Which means they will return mostly the same lineup and same starting pitching next year and expect different results by shuffling mediocre bullpen and bench pieces.
Yet this was Manuel's fault? Please.
Unfortunately, ownership loves Amaro for some reason so he's not going anyway for the foreseeable future.
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I didn't understand why they didn't trade Lee. As a Ranger fan I know all to well the effects of bad general managers and owners. Maybe they will wake up soon.
What's going on with that Pitcher from Mexico that chose Philly? Did he sign?
What's going on with that Pitcher from Mexico that chose Philly? Did he sign?
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I'm glad they didn't trade Lee because last time Amaro traded Lee they got garbage in return. I'd rather have Lee than Phillipe Aumont.
But they absolutely should have traded that waste of space Michael Young. And possibly Carlos Ruiz and maybe even Chase Utley too.
But they absolutely should have traded that waste of space Michael Young. And possibly Carlos Ruiz and maybe even Chase Utley too.
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As far as Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez, supposedly negotiations hit a snag. It may be over his physical.
And that's another thing. They threw all that money at MAG, but last year when the Dodgers gave a pretty good contract to Puig, Amaro came out and said "that's a big risk, good luck with that, Dodgers." Idiot.
And that's another thing. They threw all that money at MAG, but last year when the Dodgers gave a pretty good contract to Puig, Amaro came out and said "that's a big risk, good luck with that, Dodgers." Idiot.
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Way to go out on a limb, Bowden. States Abreu would be great fit in Texas. Middle of the order impact bat that Texas is missing..... Here's your sign....
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-rangers/headlines/20130816-former-gm-jim-bowden-rangers-could-be-perfect-fit-for-cuban-defector-jose-abreu.ece
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-rangers/headlines/20130816-former-gm-jim-bowden-rangers-could-be-perfect-fit-for-cuban-defector-jose-abreu.ece
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What's up with tread. The Dodgers have the best Pitcher in Baseball, the most exciting Rookie; a team that is on a historic run, that hasn't been equaled in 60 years. H. Ramirez has been missing, and they have been missing who is regarded as their best player in Matt Kemp, yet they keep winning. Why are people not commenting here? WCB? I think so.
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No, it's cause I don't personally think they'll last. They swept the Rays, but only by getting to our 2 worst pitchers who are both on a horrendous string of starts right now. When they faced Price, they were domnated. They'll see a lot more pitching like him in the playoffs.
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You don't think the Dodgers will last? 50 games is no small sample size. I'm sure they've ran into some good pitching during those 50 games so it's not like they are feasting on everyone's 3rd and 4th starters.
They are the favorites to win it all, IMO.
Also consider this, they are doing a lot of this w/o Matt Kemp. If he's able to come back and play close to his old level of play I don't see them being beat in the post season.
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The first 70 games were also a large sample and they were in 4th place during that time. There's a reason Donny Baseball was almost fired.
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They had a ton of injuries back then and when guys started getting healthy they took off.
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Plus they didn't bring up Puig until like June.
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