Divisional Round Chatter Thread | Packers vs Cowboys | 01-15-2017

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Another thing that continues to gnaw at me...

Packers stopped us on 3rd & 2 to stop our GW TD drive and we couldn't stop them on 3rd & 20 to prevent their GW.

It's because they didn't even try to run on that last drive, which to me is treason!!!
 
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Another thing that continues to gnaw at me...

Packers stopped us on 3rd & 2 to stop our GW TD drive and we couldn't stop them on 3rd & 20 to prevent their GW.
I wasn't mad about the defense giving it up in the end, I really wasn't. I knew it was gonna happen, but the coaching mishaps are inexcusable and it has happened over and over every year. Garrett as a coach loses you 2 games a year more and he offers nothing extra. Bellichick as a coach wins you at least 2 or 3 games a year extra. That's the difference, he makes smart decisions. Until Jerry and Stephen realizes that then this will be the outcomes for the next 5 years wasting Dak, and Zekes careers as they have wasted Romos, Wares, Wittens, etc..
 
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He's been terrible at time management for years, he's improved slightly but still does dumb, confounding shit at times, such as that spike. Yea, he's gotten better, but any dimwit could get better given 6+ years. He just doesn't have the instincts or feel for it.
So he isn't as bright as he is made out to be. How can I as a high school dropout sit on on my couch screaming at him to run the ball instead of going empty back when it was clear they couldn't stop them at the tune of 6 ypc which is just stupid. Make them stop you and throw when necessary especially with a rookie QB in his first playoff game. the spike was horrible I told my son while watching and screaming at the tv to run and make them use their time outs then onlly pass on 3rd down if needed. So why is it so hard for him to figure out??? it's not rocket science!!!
 

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I wasn't mad about the defense giving it up in the end, I really wasn't. I knew it was gonna happen, but the coaching mishaps are inexcusable and it has happened over and over every year. Garrett as a coach loses you 2 games a year more and he offers nothing extra. Bellichick as a coach wins you at least 2 or 3 games a year extra. That's the difference, he makes smart decisions. Until Jerry and Stephen realizes that then this will be the outcomes for the next 5 years wasting Dak, and Zekes careers as they have wasted Romos, Wares, Wittens, etc..
That may be a little over the top. Granted this isn't a polished coaching group but they aren't as bad as some are declaring. This team they coached was good enough to have captured the franchise record for games won in a season but they passed on it. They instead settled to tie the Patriots this year.s games most won this season.

They are new and inexperienced in playoff mode but at least their trends are getting them in that position. I would like to think they will improve and hopefully that will happen but I am not ready just yet to dismiss them as a hopeless group. That's just my take on it and if others would allow themselves this group offered a lot of fans the hope for a brighter future. Now I will go out and raise my Dallas Cowboys flag.
 
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How do you equate the coaching to explain the miracle pass made by Rodgers to give Green Bay the opportunity to get the winning field.

I would say that the coaching is better explained by having the team to come back ai the second half after being left for dead by viturally everyone. Don't discount the coaching aspects of the come back.
Because they wouldn't have had enough time on the clock to do that if they would have ran the ball on the last drive. All 4 downs was passing and incompletions, which led to too much time on the clock for them.
 

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That may be a little over the top. Granted this isn't a polished coaching group but they aren't as bad as some are declaring. This team they coached was good enough to have captured the franchise record for games won in a season but they passed on it. They instead settled to tie the Patriots this year.s games most won this season.

They are new and inexperienced in playoff mode but at least their trends are getting them in that position. I would like to think they will improve and hopefully that will happen but I am not ready just yet to dismiss them as a hopeless group. That's just my take on it and if others would allow themselves this group offered a lot of fans the hope for a brighter future. Now I will go out and raise my Dallas Cowboys flag.
I agree that people are being over the top about the coaching staff against the Packers. The only real problem I have is clock management. It has been a problem for us all season long. We have no idea how to milk time off the clock at the end of a half or use our timeout correctly to preserve time on the clock. It's sort of been a constant all year long. I'm hoping our coaches get better at it over time but I have my doubts.
 

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I agree that people are being over the top about the coaching staff against the Packers. The only real problem I have is clock management. It has been a problem for us all season long. We have no idea how to milk time off the clock at the end of a half or use our timeout correctly to preserve time on the clock. It's sort of been a constant all year long. I'm hoping our coaches get better at it over time but I have my doubts.
It's not a new thing.
 
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Let's put this in context. The defense of the first half gave up most of the points to Green Bay to give them what was thought to be an insurmountable lead and yet the Dallas offense overcame that lead. Coaching adjustments maybe?
It was the talent that overcame the bad coaching, which by the way is all we have to look forward to while Garrett is the coach.
 

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Because they wouldn't have had enough time on the clock to do that if they would have ran the ball on the last drive. All 4 downs was passing and incompletions, which led to too much time on the clock for them.
That seems to be a popular position and it may have turned out to be so but it is also a position of presumption because no one really knows whether that approach would have won.

Even for me I would have preferred the same as you but in all actuallity we will never know. It's a what if discussion and will remain there as long as folks wish to rehash it.
 
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I agree that people are being over the top about the coaching staff against the Packers. The only real problem I have is clock management. It has been a problem for us all season long. We have no idea how to milk time off the clock at the end of a half or use our timeout correctly to preserve time on the clock. It's sort of been a constant all year long. I'm hoping our coaches get better at it over time but I have my doubts.

It's not just from this game. There were a few this season where he made bad clock management blunders at the end but luckily the defense stood fast. This is't nothing new for him, one just needs to go back to the Green Bay game in 2013 which to me was the biggest indictment of Garrett.
 

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It's not just from this game. There were a few this season where he made bad clock management blunders at the end but luckily the defense stood fast. This is't nothing new for him, one just needs to go back to the Green Bay game in 2013 which to me was the biggest indictment of Garrett.
Well it's like even before halftime. We had a perfect opportunity to run the ball and drain more time off the clock. The last thing we wanted to do was give Rodgers another shot with the ball. Now granted he didn't score again before half but he shouldn't have even had a chance to. Run the ball once in there and you can get a first down or you still have time to take a few shots at the endzone. Instead we did the worst thing possible. We didn't score the TD and we left lots of time on the clock for Rodgers.
 

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It was the talent that overcame the bad coaching, which by the way is all we have to look forward to while Garrett is the coach.
Convenient way to see it. It however, assumes the team is smarter and more advanced on the constructs of the game than the coaches and they are being held back because of coaching constraints. I am not ready to go on record with that proclamation.
 

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Convenient way to see it. It however, assumes the team is smarter and more advanced on the constructs of the game than the coaches and they are being held back because of coaching constraints. I am not ready to go on record with that proclamation.
No I wouldn't go that far either. And there are times when I see Linehan do something and frankly it's brilliant. So I'm not going to throw the whole thing away because the clock management is bad. But Garrett either needs to get better at it or we need to bring someone in who can help figure that part of the game out.
 

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Day 3.

Still just randomly shake my head...Still can't believe we didn't get to the NFCC with all the stars aligned.
 

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Day 3.

Still just randomly shake my head...Still can't believe we didn't get to the NFCC with all the stars aligned.
That's where I am as well.

If you can't make it there in a year like this, what has to frikkin go right?

Imperfections get magnified in the post-season.

Lack of pass rush and questionable coaching did us in.
 
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That's where I am as well.

If you can't make it there in a year like this, what has to frikkin go right?

Imperfections get magnified in the post-season.

Lack of pass rush and questionable coaching did us in.
Then you see teams like the patriots who make the playoffs then just lean over slightly and fall into the Superbowl..
 
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