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Scout's Eye: Williams' Toughness, Allen's Experience And More
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Bryan Broaddus Football Analyst/Scout
Observations from the film room in Oxnard:
•There have been times where I have questioned the toughness of Terrance Williams. So I must be fair with him and say despite his going to the ground with Sean Lee on Tuesday during the team play action period, he showed a great deal of courage to go hard inside and crack on a linebacker that is an absolute nightmare to block in space. To Williams' credit and Lee's displeasure, he struck Lee with a solid initial block. As the play wore on, he began to grab Lee's jersey and continued to try and fight for position. Lee, who is always working toward the ball, now has Williams holding a death grip on his jersey and the two get tangled up as the ball goes around them. Lee was upset with Williams for holding him, but Williams was trying his best to complete the block -- which, from the snap, was going to be a difficult task. In this scheme, receivers have to block on the edge to make the plays succeed. In this case, Williams might have been off on his technique but his toughness is a step in the right direction.
•Will Allen has done nothing in this camp to make me think he should not be the starter when the squad lines up opening day against the Giants. I had my doubts during the OTA's and minicamps, but he has been steady in his play and, paired with Barry Church, has been the right fit there. In this camp, he has showed range not only to handle the ball to the deep outside, but as he was able to display on Tuesday, his ability to defend the ball in the air against a player the likes of Jason Witten. It speaks volumes of his worth. I have been impressed with the way he shows awareness in his play. It's rare that you see him fooled or out of position on the play. The way he manages the game deep will allow Church more of an opportunity to play down and help in the running game which in the end, is more of a comfortable position for Church. In the end, Allen will allow these young safeties to grow in their responsibilities and that is exactly what this club had in mind when they signed him.
•If J.J. Wilcox is a guy that is always around the ball, there is another rookie on this defense that will give him a run for his money and that is linebacker DeVonte Holloman. On Tuesday, Holloman was able to put himself in position to once again intercept a pass from Kyle Orton, this time on a zone drop to his right. What has been interesting about Holloman is that, while at South Carolina he played strong safety before moving to linebacker. But when I observed him on tape, I didn't see the type of ball skills that he has shown like he has in these practices. He has played with great awareness but an even better understanding of where he fits in the scheme. For not having a great deal of experience, you do not see him struggling with his assignments or being corrected on the field by the coaches. Holloman has even shown some versatility lining up at a couple of different positions on this defense. What is different about Holloman is that he is not playing like a rookie. He is a confident player, who is showing some play making ability but also gaining the confidence of these coaches as well.
•I have not written much about cornerback Micah Pellerin. But Tuesday he did an outstanding job of getting noticed. I had been more impressed with the work of Brandon Underwood and what he has managed to put together this camp. I thought that if this squad kept six cornerbacks, Underwood would have a shot at that spot, but there is something to Pellerin's game. In the team-run period that basically turned into a scrimmage, Pellerin played with perfect technique off the edge, filling the lane, and delivered a nice shot to Kendial Lawrence in space to bring him to the ground. In this scheme, corners have to be able to make plays in the running game from the outside. His physical play was a textbook example of how you need to play the run in that situation. Pellerin was also solid in the one-on-one coverage in the reps he took. His length helps him, but he also managed to keep his body in proper position in the routes and that is the real key in order for him to continue grow as a corner. It’s all about making plays and getting noticed on film, and Micah Pellerin did a nice job of that on Tuesday.
Posted 4 hours ago
Bryan Broaddus Football Analyst/Scout
Observations from the film room in Oxnard:
•There have been times where I have questioned the toughness of Terrance Williams. So I must be fair with him and say despite his going to the ground with Sean Lee on Tuesday during the team play action period, he showed a great deal of courage to go hard inside and crack on a linebacker that is an absolute nightmare to block in space. To Williams' credit and Lee's displeasure, he struck Lee with a solid initial block. As the play wore on, he began to grab Lee's jersey and continued to try and fight for position. Lee, who is always working toward the ball, now has Williams holding a death grip on his jersey and the two get tangled up as the ball goes around them. Lee was upset with Williams for holding him, but Williams was trying his best to complete the block -- which, from the snap, was going to be a difficult task. In this scheme, receivers have to block on the edge to make the plays succeed. In this case, Williams might have been off on his technique but his toughness is a step in the right direction.
•Will Allen has done nothing in this camp to make me think he should not be the starter when the squad lines up opening day against the Giants. I had my doubts during the OTA's and minicamps, but he has been steady in his play and, paired with Barry Church, has been the right fit there. In this camp, he has showed range not only to handle the ball to the deep outside, but as he was able to display on Tuesday, his ability to defend the ball in the air against a player the likes of Jason Witten. It speaks volumes of his worth. I have been impressed with the way he shows awareness in his play. It's rare that you see him fooled or out of position on the play. The way he manages the game deep will allow Church more of an opportunity to play down and help in the running game which in the end, is more of a comfortable position for Church. In the end, Allen will allow these young safeties to grow in their responsibilities and that is exactly what this club had in mind when they signed him.
•If J.J. Wilcox is a guy that is always around the ball, there is another rookie on this defense that will give him a run for his money and that is linebacker DeVonte Holloman. On Tuesday, Holloman was able to put himself in position to once again intercept a pass from Kyle Orton, this time on a zone drop to his right. What has been interesting about Holloman is that, while at South Carolina he played strong safety before moving to linebacker. But when I observed him on tape, I didn't see the type of ball skills that he has shown like he has in these practices. He has played with great awareness but an even better understanding of where he fits in the scheme. For not having a great deal of experience, you do not see him struggling with his assignments or being corrected on the field by the coaches. Holloman has even shown some versatility lining up at a couple of different positions on this defense. What is different about Holloman is that he is not playing like a rookie. He is a confident player, who is showing some play making ability but also gaining the confidence of these coaches as well.
•I have not written much about cornerback Micah Pellerin. But Tuesday he did an outstanding job of getting noticed. I had been more impressed with the work of Brandon Underwood and what he has managed to put together this camp. I thought that if this squad kept six cornerbacks, Underwood would have a shot at that spot, but there is something to Pellerin's game. In the team-run period that basically turned into a scrimmage, Pellerin played with perfect technique off the edge, filling the lane, and delivered a nice shot to Kendial Lawrence in space to bring him to the ground. In this scheme, corners have to be able to make plays in the running game from the outside. His physical play was a textbook example of how you need to play the run in that situation. Pellerin was also solid in the one-on-one coverage in the reps he took. His length helps him, but he also managed to keep his body in proper position in the routes and that is the real key in order for him to continue grow as a corner. It’s all about making plays and getting noticed on film, and Micah Pellerin did a nice job of that on Tuesday.
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I like Holloman...but the word on him, even at SC, was that he's slow as shit.
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For a safety like he used to play there, yeah. He's average for a LBer. If his instincts are sound, and it looks like they are pretty good for a rookie, that can be compensated for.
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Maybe as a Strong Safety which is where he played his first three years. I don't think he is considered slow at all for a LBer.
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where's this from? Nevermind, fuckit..
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If it accessible to the public 24hrs. per day, then its effectively public property even if it is designated as "private property", which is why cops can give you tickets for running a stop sign in a mall parking lot. Those stop signs aren't issued by the state but put there by the owner of the facility.
You should not be able to get a ticket by a policeman since its not a state recognized stop sign and its on private property. You CAN get a ticket though because its private property that accessible to the public 24hrs. per day. Hoo Rah.
You should not be able to get a ticket by a policeman since its not a state recognized stop sign and its on private property. You CAN get a ticket though because its private property that accessible to the public 24hrs. per day. Hoo Rah.
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Golden Tate laughs at this assessment.
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Even if this was accurate (it's mostly not) it isn't relevant to licensed guests in a privately owned stadium.
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They can ask them to leave, but they can't tell them to STFU about what they are yelling. Hell, they don't even do that during games, let alone practice.
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They might not do it, but yeah they can.
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The opener is in just over 3 weeks so I'm guessing he misses that although probably not much after that. He might be able to gut it out depending on the severity but I guess we'll see.
Frederick is going to be a stud after dealing with all this nonsense if we can actually get some stability next to him.
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Yes it is right and it applies to any "private property" that is accessible to the public 24hrs. per day as precident in case law. If they were charging for tickets its a different story, but an outdoor practice field accessible to the public is not private property.
So they can't say shit to heckling fans. Or they can say stuff, but they can't make the people stop talking legally.
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Really? Can we just catch a damn break on the line for petes sake?
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What case are you referring to?