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Bill Parcells: Fear of success doomed Quincy Carter

August, 2, 2013


By Jean-Jacques Taylor | ESPNDallas.com

Bill Parcells knows exactly why Quincy Carter failed with the Cowboys. And it has nothing to do with drugs. Or mental illness.

The 2001 second-roound pick -- the 53rd player taken -- had a substantial fear of success.

That's why he figured out a way to get released in training camp less than a year after leading the Cowboys to a 10-6 record and their first playoff berth since 1999.

"I became pretty close with Quincy personally, and this kid had a lot of good qualities," Parcells said. "He was smart. He understood it. But I just couldn’t save his ass. I really couldn’t.

"You just didn’t have the time. There he is, he got his team in the playoffs, he’s the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, he’s playing good, he’s improving, he can get out of trouble, he’s pretty smart, he can make almost every throw -- and it’s just, some people just can’t fight the pressure to succeed.

"They just can’t fight it. It’s too much on them once the bar gets up a little bit. It’s too much. I don’t know all the problems or the demons exactly, but that’s what eventually took him down."

Carter started three games for the New York Jets in 2004 and never played another NFL down.

Tony Romo was an undrafted free agent on the 2004 Cowboys, hoping to prove he belonged in the NFL. Forty-one-year-old Vinny Testeverde, who started 15 games, and Drew Henson were also on the roster for the Cowboys, who finished 6-10.

Less than three seasons later, Romo started his first game for the Cowboys. Now, he's one of the league's best quarterbacks.

Parcells wasn't surprised Romo received an opportunity to play.

"There were a couple of guys there that I knew I was going to have trouble counting on," Parcells said. "Henson because of his newness and he didn’t seem to be able to sort things out and Quincy because of, you know ... "
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Tuna, Tuna, Tuna.

The "problems and demons" you mentioned you "didn't know about' were the exact things that took him down.

Quit trying to psychoanalyze a retard.
 

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Did someone actually ask him about Quincy? You got Bill Parcells and you can ask him any question about his career and you ask about Quincy Carter? Why?
 

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"On second thought," Parcells added, "it was the drugs."

 

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We won ten games with Quincy Carter, Troy Hambone and Lynn Scott.
 

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We won ten games with Quincy Carter, Troy Hambone and Lynn Scott.
I think Parcells was really selling himself short.

I mean really.

Either that, or the poor guy has settled into a life of dementia centering around horse races and cannoli.
 

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He was doomed because he wasn't good at playing quarterback, mostly.
 

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Forever putting to rest any argument of whether coaching or talent is more important.
I think everyone generally agrees with that. It's just that very few can take Quincy Carter-level horrible positions, or position units, and make them into division winners.
 

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We didn't win the division but I don't know how in the hell we managed to make it into the playoffs with Carter throwing 17 TD's to 21 INT's with a sub-60% completion percentage. Great coaching by Parcells obviously but it just goes to show how in the NFL anything can happen in any given year if things fall right for you.
 

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I think everyone generally agrees with that. It's just that very few can take Quincy Carter-level horrible positions, or position units, and make them into division winners.
A good coach can take player to heights that a good player can't take a coach.

Would Peyton Manning win on a Dave Campo team?
 

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A good coach can take player to heights that a good player can't take a coach.

Would Peyton Manning win on a Dave Campo team?
Eh, well, Peyton Manning carried that Colts teams to heights they couldn't have ever reached without him. I'm not saying Tony Dungy is Dave Campo, but Manning is one of the exceptions to the rule. Tony Dungy doesn't get a ring, or make the playoffs so many times in a row, without Manning basically running half the team and being a first ballot Hall of Famer every single season.

I generally agree though. Winning starts at the top down, first owner, GM, then coach. Much more important to have those right pieces in place than talent. Talent comes and goes, and the positive impact of good management trickles down more often than the positive impacts of talent trickle up.

But that doesn't change that Bill Parcells and maybe a handful of other coaches in history would have been able to duplicate that 2003 coaching effort for a team with Hambrick, Carter, etc. That's how bad those players were. Coaching could overcome that, but it had to be coaching of the highest magnitude possible.
 

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A good coach can take player to heights that a good player can't take a coach.

Would Peyton Manning win on a Dave Campo team?
Bad example. A team with Peyton over rides Campo to some degree. He would be better at hepling coach the players than Campo would.
 

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I think everyone generally agrees with that. It's just that very few can take Quincy Carter-level horrible positions, or position units, and make them into division winners.
I don't think Quincy was as bad as some people make him sound. He had some talent but he didn't have it going on upstairs.
 

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We had at around the same time, Quincy, Hutch, Henson, Ryan Leaf, Clint Stoerner, Anthony Wright

But hey, "Jerry had a lot to do with those three Super Bowls"
 

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We had at around the same time, Quincy, Hutch, Henson, Ryan Leaf, Clint Stoerner, Anthony Wright

But hey, "Jerry had a lot to do with those three Super Bowls"
I look at that list and I wonder why some people are in a hurry to dump Romo. It will get ugly after Romo.
 

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I look at that list and I wonder why some people are in a hurry to dump Romo. It will get ugly after Romo.
My argument was that I think Jerry learned from trying to go dumpster diving to find a QB. I don't think even Jerry is stupid enough to go down that road of QB fail again.

I think he and the Cowboys are more likely to spend the necessary resources to at least make a logical attempt to find Romo's replacement. Instead of trying to hit on long shots and washouts I think it's more likely that they'll make moves to move up to acquire a QB who is at least regarded as a top 15 player in the draft.
 

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My argument was that I think Jerry learned from trying to go dumpster diving to find a QB. I don't think even Jerry is stupid enough to go down that road of QB fail again.
I thought he learned a lesson about hiring a stooge coach after Campo. Wrong.
 

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I thought he learned a lesson about hiring a stooge coach after Campo. Wrong.
I just have a feeling they'll take the QB position more seriously this time around.
 

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I just have a feeling they'll take the QB position more seriously this time around.
I think they will too. Doesn't mean they'll get it right, but they'll try. I could also see them going harder after a Drew Brees FA type (not saying get Drew Brees now, I mean when Brees was a FA).
 
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