JJT: Josh Brent's talent is trump card

[Cowboysrock55]

Yes he did, and he named more than one comparison. And your Oh Snap response meant you agreed with him.

And, you both are wrong.

You may want to read it again. Please show me where he said anything about the not cutting Brent being OK. He was simply pointing out that the Bronco's are a terrible example to demonstrate why the Cowboys are in the wrong. Which is correct. You are either really struggling with admitting you are wrong, or you didn't read the post.

 

[Cotton]

"We have been aware of Quentin Saulsberry's arrest and will continue to monitor the legal developments related to this matter, which is subject to review under the NFL's policies," Broncos spokesman Patrick Smyth told the Post on Monday." Translation, they aren't doing squat unless the NFL makes them.

From his post.

He is comparing the two. And it's a stupid comparison since Saulsberry's arrest wasn't because he killed someone.

Maybe you didn't read the post.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Ludicre. Brent is not nearly talented enough to justify keeping him around. In fact the opposite is true. He's the perfect mix of average player and personal fuck-up to make an example of.

 

[BipolarFuk]

Jimmy Johnson would have cut this cunt before Jerry Brown's corpse was cold.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

"We have been aware of Quentin Saulsberry's arrest and will continue to monitor the legal developments related to this matter, which is subject to review under the NFL's policies," Broncos spokesman Patrick Smyth told the Post on Monday." Translation, they aren't doing squat unless the NFL makes them.

So he was pointing out why the post he was quoting was incorrect. Which he was absolutely correct about. He didn't say anything about this justifying what the Cowboys are doing. Maybe you missed this little part of his post...

Executive behavior means jack shat. There's no cap or even serious ramifications for outright firing them.

Which points out why the executive behavior is a horrible comparison. It's ok you can thank me later.

 

[Cotton]

So he was pointing out why the post he was quoting was incorrect. Which he was absolutely correct about. He didn't say anything about this justifying what the Cowboys are doing. Maybe you missed this little part of his post...

Executive behavior means jack shat. There's no cap or even serious ramifications for outright firing them.

Which points out why the executive behavior is a horrible comparison. It's ok you can thank me later.

He went on to use player comparisons. Or did you not read my post before yours?

 

[Cotton]

I suppose I will post it for you.

It took D.J Williams two DUI's to get "punished" by the team-- and even then they just fined him, demoted him from Defensive Co-Captain, and didn't start him against the powerhouse Kansas City Chiefs in a week 10 game. Oooooh. It took a failed drug test before anything real happened to this guy, and then it was the NFL that suspended him. The NFL then suspended him another three games. Ryan McBean got suspended at the same time and again by the NFL, not the Broncos.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I suppose I will post it for you.

It took D.J Williams two DUI's to get "punished" by the team-- and even then they just fined him, demoted him from Defensive Co-Captain, and didn't start him against the powerhouse Kansas City Chiefs in a week 10 game. Oooooh. It took a failed drug test before anything real happened to this guy, and then it was the NFL that suspended him. The NFL then suspended him another three games. Ryan McBean got suspended at the same time and again by the NFL, not the Broncos.

And Brent was mentioned where in that? Maybe you just don't have great reading comprehension skillz?

 

[Cotton]

And Brent was mentioned where in that? Maybe you just don't have great reading comprehension skillz?

God damn, you're either an idiot or playing a stupid ass lawyer angle on this.

He was obviously comparing the two.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

God damn, you're either an idiot or playing a stupid ass lawyer angle on this.

He was obviously comparing the two.

I'm playing neither. He obviously wasn't at all, otherwise he wouldn't have quoted someone's post freaking out that the Bronco's are punishing their execs while the Cowboys do nothing with Brent or Ratliff. He was discrediting that post, which was 100% correct. But hey freak out about something someone wasn't talking about. That's cool and stuff.

 

[Cotton]

Someone posts something about another team not punishing it's employees.

Ravi posts that he doesn't believe it's a valid comparison.

You say Oh Snap.

I post that it's not comparable because no one in that organization died.

You lead us down a never-ending road of dumbassery.

 

[Smitty]

Yes he did, and he named more than one comparison. And your Oh Snap response meant you agreed with him.

And, you both are wrong.

Oh snap... now who is acting like a know it all douche?

 

[Cotton]

Oh snap... now who is acting like a know it all douche?

Touche. Now, keep up with my posts for the next one.

You might be waiting a while.

 

[data]

Jerruh's going to credit Josh Brent to the 2014 draft class.

1.5 Draft!!!!

 

[Bluestar71]

The thing about Brent is you can't trust him. He clearly has a substance abuse problem that controls him and isn't going away. He will fuck up again. He's not worth keeping around. Even if you don't care about the moral questions having him around raises or even if you believe he's this great player. When he screws up again he'll be gone for another full season or possibly permanently. It's not worth fooling around with. Cut bait and move on instead of waiting on the next embarrassment or, worse yet, tragedy he brings on.

 

[1bigfan13]

The thing about Brent is you can't trust him. He clearly has a substance abuse problem that controls him and isn't going away. He will fuck up again. He's not worth keeping around. Even if you don't care about the moral questions having him around raises or even if you believe he's this great player. When he screws up again he'll be gone for another full season or possibly permanently. It's not worth fooling around with. Cut bait and move on instead of waiting on the next embarrassment or, worse yet, tragedy he brings on.

You are absolutely right. Even if his sentence is a light one and he's able to play the 2014 season, do you really want to go all in on a player who will likely fail multiple drug tests and end up being suspended for multiple games?

I sure as hell don't.

For once I'd like the idiots in charge to take a glass half empty approach rather than always taking the glass half full approach.

Is the bang really worth the buck in this case? I'd say it's heavily leaning towards no.

 

[ravidubey]

Jimmy Johnson would have cut this cunt before Jerry Brown's corpse was cold.

Not if he was talented. Read "Boys will be Boys" and tell me again how Jimmy gave a crap about substance abuse and excessive partying. Winning was all that mattered to Jimmy. He'd cut fringe players in dramatic fashion to occasionally drive home the point that he was in charge, but he'd never deny a single rep to a player he thought could really help the team.

After that Washington loss in 1992 when Stepnoski got bullrushed by Jason Buck forcing a critical Aikman fumble Jimmy was fuming on the plane ride back. But he vented his fury at a backup center, Frank Cornish, who had nothing to do with the loss. To the average Joe it might have looked like Jimmy was being a bad ass, but Aikman was like "WTF? What did Cornish do?"

 

[1bigfan13]

Not if he was talented. Read "Boys will be Boys" and tell me again how Jimmy gave a crap about substance abuse and excessive partying. Winning was all that mattered to Jimmy. He'd cut fringe players in dramatic fashion to occasionally drive home the point that he was in charge, but he'd never deny a single rep to a player he thought could really help the team.

After that Washington loss in 1992 when Stepnoski got bullrushed by Jason Buck forcing a critical Aikman fumble Jimmy was fuming on the plane ride back. But he vented his fury at a backup center, Frank Cornish, who had nothing to do with the loss. To the average Joe it might have looked like Jimmy was being a bad ass, but Aikman was like "WTF? What did Cornish do?"

Yep. Jimmy valued winning above anything else. As long as you practiced hard and produced on the field you were golden to him. Everything else was pretty much immaterial.

Sure he'd bark at the superstars from time to time but if you could help him win your job was safe.

 

[boozeman]

Not if he was talented. Read "Boys will be Boys" and tell me again how Jimmy gave a crap about substance abuse and excessive partying. Winning was all that mattered to Jimmy. He'd cut fringe players in dramatic fashion to occasionally drive home the point that he was in charge, but he'd never deny a single rep to a player he thought could really help the team.

After that Washington loss in 1992 when Stepnoski got bullrushed by Jason Buck forcing a critical Aikman fumble Jimmy was fuming on the plane ride back. But he vented his fury at a backup center, Frank Cornish, who had nothing to do with the loss. To the average Joe it might have looked like Jimmy was being a bad ass, but Aikman was like "WTF? What did Cornish do?"

Jimmy would have treated Brent like Curvin Richards. He had no issues cutting an average player to keep the fear of God in people.

 

[Bluestar71]

On a team run by Jerry Jones Brent passes for talent. On a team run by Jimmy Johnson he would not. The bar is set much lower these days for the lowly Cowboys.