Garrett and his "process"

[Texas Ace]

Apparently, Olivia Munn met him and even to her he kept using the term "process".

And he asked HER to come speak to the team?

What the hell kind of motivation would they take from that?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/si-video/20130621/2013-06-21-clip05.sportsillustrated/

 

[townsend]

I think it his very little to do with motivating the team, and more about giving his penis the opportunity to focus, execute, and stack good days together.

 

[Cujo]

It's like a mantra. Except when it's not successful and then it's really just an annoying word.

 

[Smitty]

If I thought droning on and on about a process was harmful, like Wade's message was, I'm sure I'd be upset.

 

[Clay_Allison]

If I thought droning on and on about a process was harmful, like Wade's message was, I'm sure I'd be upset.

Sure as hell isn't helpful. If I could be paid millions to just take up space and not do damage I'd be pretty happy with that job.

 

[Smitty]

Sure as hell isn't helpful.

I don't think you can say that unequivocally.

 

[Clay_Allison]

I don't think you can say that unequivocally.

Yeah, it's going to win the super bowl some day, keep thinking that. Keep hope alive.

 

[Smitty]

Yeah, it's going to win the super bowl some day, keep thinking that. Keep hope alive.

There are plenty of coaches who have preached a boring message of keep practicing hard, keep getting better, and it has paid off for them. Not saying they are all Super Bowl winners but you pretend that it's nothing and frankly I doubt that's the case. I think Garrett does a good job of keeping these guys focused as evidenced by how he brought them back into line after the Wade firing, after the Josh Brent incident, etc.

Too many people unreasonably fixate on a single word or phrase and cite it as ineffective because of the 8-8 seasons, not because you have any insight into what is actually going on in practice.

 

[Bob Roberts]

You think he eats processed meats?

 

[Clay_Allison]

There are plenty of coaches who have preached a boring message of keep practicing hard, keep getting better, and it has paid off for them. Not saying they are all Super Bowl winners but you pretend that it's nothing and frankly I doubt that's the case. I think Garrett does a good job of keeping these guys focused as evidenced by how he brought them back into line after the Wade firing, after the Josh Brent incident, etc.

Too many people unreasonably fixate on a single word or phrase and cite it as ineffective because of the 8-8 seasons, not because you have any insight into what is actually going on in practice.

I have insight into the fact that it isn't working, because we continually come up short in close games. People always prop Garrett because the team keeps playing hard, doesn't quit etc. Well that is all well and good, but they don't finish worth a shit and poor game management and the fact that the coach couldn't inspire a traffic jam to be inconvenient has something to do with it.

 

[Smitty]

I have insight into the fact that it isn't working, because we continually come up short in close games.

There's lots of explanations for why that is the case, namely, Phil Costa and company simply aren't going to get any better no matter what message you preach to them or what you make them practice. It's impossible.

Expecting better results with no guys who are incapable of executing is ludicrous.

People always prop Garrett because the team keeps playing hard, doesn't quit etc. Well that is all well and good

Right, so stop blaming the message. Because it is good, and it's having the desired effect. It's better than Wade's team which lost focus so easily and never practiced and fell completely apart.

poor game management

Has nothing to do with him repeating the "process" to his team.

and the fact that the coach couldn't inspire a traffic jam to be inconvenient has something to do with it.

Once again, you don't know that, in fact, the evidence says he does keep them on point.

Garrett believes in the message, it sure as hell is better than not having any discernible direction like Wade.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

There's lots of explanations for why that is the case, namely, Phil Costa and company simply aren't going to get any better no matter what message you preach to them or what you make them practice. It's impossible.

Expecting better results with no talent is simply ludicrous.

Right, so stop blaming the message. Because it is good, and it's having the desired effect. It's better than Wade's team which lost focus so easily and never practiced and fell completely apart.

Has nothing to do with him repeating the "process" to his team.

Once again, you don't know that, in fact, the evidence says he does keep them on point.

Exactly, plenty to bitch about but this isn't one of those things. Even if it has no effect at all, who gives a shit. As long as it doesn't have a negative impact on the team then go ahead and keep preaching on the off chance that it has some slightly positive impact on the team.

 

[Smitty]

Wade continually told these guys how good they were until they believed it and didn't bother working hard.

Now, Parcells was a master manipulator who not only told his guys they sucked and needed to get better, but he found amazing and creative ways to coax every last bit out of guys.

No one is saying Garrett is that good, but I'd much rather my coach telling his guys every week that they have to get better, than telling them they are good enough.

It's the right message to send. And just another example of why Garrett is the superior head coach even if the results don't reflect it yet.

 

[Texas Ace]

You think he eats processed meats?

 

[Clay_Allison]

There's lots of explanations for why that is the case, namely, Phil Costa and company simply aren't going to get any better no matter what message you preach to them or what you make them practice. It's impossible.

Expecting better results with no guys who are incapable of executing is ludicrous.

Garrett Thinks his offensive line is great, full of the right kind of guys, stacking good practices together, moving together in a process.

He pumps bland and robotic sunshine but he sure doesn't act like he knows that the OL is bad either in his press conferences or in his game plans.

 

[Smitty]

Garrett Thinks his offensive line is great

That statement seems pretty dubious.

His devotion to making it as good as it needs to be may be suspect, but your hyperbole is undoing your argument here.

He pumps bland and robotic sunshine but he sure doesn't act like he knows that the OL is bad either in his press conferences or in his game plans.

Well I know for a fact that he recognizes his offensive line is handicapping him because he has deliberately playcalled away from it's weaknesses over the years at times. Such as the delay handoff that was a staple of our offense for years, was an attempt to mask the offense's struggles with run blocking by letting them start out like they were pass blocking (which they are better at). Whether he does enough of that kind of gameplanning is another matter, but once again, your hyperbole that he simply "doesn't act" like he recognizes it is demonstrably false. If you would say "he doesn't do it enough" then that's a different debate.

Of course, I also remember people bitching about how they hated the delay handoff until he stopped doing it. Then it was "Why don't we use that delay anymore?!?!"

I fail to see how what he says in his press conferences has to do with anything... he doesn't owe us an explanation for anything. I subscribe to the Parcells theory of media... tell them as little of the truth as possible.

 

[Clay_Allison]

That statement seems pretty dubious.

His devotion to making it as good as it needs to be may be suspect, but your hyperbole is undoing your argument here.



Well I know for a fact that he recognizes his offensive line is handicapping him because he has deliberately playcalled away from it's weaknesses over the years at times. Such as the delay handoff that was a staple of our offense for years, was an attempt to mask the offense's struggles with run blocking by letting them start out like they were pass blocking (which they are better at). Whether he does enough of that kind of gameplanning is another matter, but once again, your hyperbole that he simply "doesn't act" like he recognizes it is demonstrably false. If you would say "he doesn't do it enough" then that's a different debate.

Of course, I also remember people bitching about how they hated the delay handoff until he stopped doing it. Then it was "Why don't we use that delay anymore?!?!"

I fail to see how what he says in his press conferences has to do with anything... he doesn't owe us an explanation for anything. I subscribe to the Parcells theory of media... tell them as little of the truth as possible.

Parcells wasn't scared to call a guy out in the media either, Mr Selective Memory.

It took him a long time to shorten the passing game and he still wouuldn't spread out the defense to minimize blitz options, leading to massive pressure on Romo up to and especially including the Washington game to close out the season. Sure he won't run the ball, but he doesn't want to have a running game anyway.

If he doesn't believe in the OL, he wasn't showing it nearly enough in his game plans.

 

[Smitty]

Parcells wasn't scared to call a guy out in the media either, Mr Selective Memory.

I was saying he was less than Parcells, thought that was obvious.

It took him a long time to shorten the passing game and he still wouuldn't spread out the defense to minimize blitz options, leading to massive pressure on Romo up to and especially including the Washington game to close out the season. Sure he won't run the ball, but he doesn't want to have a running game anyway.

You are just making that up.

Garrett doesn't want a running game, right. How am I supposed to argue against that nonsense?