The way I saw it Cowboys vs Giants II

[L.T. Fan]

Just not telling the entire story...you mention he Weeden is conservative, but wouldn't a conservative QB have a better TD/int ratio?

Weeding being conservative is a matter of record. I don't necessarily think it is an indicator of whether he throws interceptions because he obviously does.

 

[Carp]

Weeding being conservative is a matter of record. I don't necessarily think it is an indicator of whether he throws interceptions because he obviously does.

I do not understand your logic.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I do not understand your logic.

It's not logic. It's statistical fact and I didn't originate it. Weedin is a conservative player by everyone's description and yet he has a high td to int. statistic. It's about a one to one ratio.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Whether it's an out or even a hitch, it's still designed for him to cut sharply to the sideline if it's the former, or plant his foot strongly into the ground and come back aggressively towards the sideline if it's the latter.

It's football 101 and in no way would they ask Williams to run a route in that area of the field and outside of the hash where he just turns around and just sits there. That doesn't make sense at all.

So even if the throw was late, Williams did not complete his route and it was the primary reason for the pick.

They have asked him to that plenty of times and that's why I questioned what the route was and a hitch route is never designed to cut sharply to the sideline or it would be an out route and not a hitch.

But please continue with your football 101 schtick it makes you look real knowledgeable.

 

[Texas Ace]

They have asked him to that plenty of times and that's why I questioned what the route was and a hitch route is never designed to cut sharply to the sideline or it would be an out route and not a hitch.

But please continue with your football 101 schtick it makes you look real knowledgeable.

Dude, I've forgotten more about football than you'll ever know.

I would tell you to continue on with your moron schtick, but it's not a schtick.

You're just really that dumb.

 

[jsmith6919]

This one is WR error as we have talked all week. Terrance Williams is a good player who has a few instances on occasion where he demonstrates that he might have a ceiling a bit lower than we had hoped. On this one, like many slants and comebacks, you have some rules that simply cannot be broken because the QB is trusting you. And when he trust you that means he is throwing the ball when your break foot hits the ground (because at that moment you have the position needed) and leaving the rest of the play up to you to do your job.
Once Williams does not stay inside Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie and loses the 5 yard race to the sideline - and in this case actually leaves his feet which means he has no way to help tackle the man he just lost the race against, then the play is dead - and the game might be, too.
Two other thoughts - DRC runs Williams' route better than Williams. This could be a chance to pile on #83, but it could also be a chance to suggest that they need to burn corners on tendencies more. Also, Doug Free is getting pushed back into Cassel on this throw, not helping the angle.

http://beta.sportsdaydfw.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2015/10/29/sturm-xs-os-kick-return-td-interceptions

 

[NoDak]

Dude, I've forgotten more about football than you'll ever know.

I would tell you to continue on with your moron schtick, but it's not a schtick.

You're just really that dumb.

But he writes a weekly "column" with a spiffy name, so must know what he's talking about.

 

[Texas Ace]

http://beta.sportsdaydfw.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2015/10/29/sturm-xs-os-kick-return-td-interceptions

So like I said, it's football 101.

A route in that area of the field does not call for the receiver to run outside the hash and just turn around.

There is a completion of the route that calls for the receiver to cut out towards the sideline or come back to the football. Otherwise, you have mistakes like this.

Terrible half-assed route by Williams there.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

So like I said, it's football 101.

A route in that area of the field does not call for the receiver to run outside the hash and just turn around.

There is a completion of the route that calls for the receiver to cut out towards the sideline or come back to the football. Otherwise, you have mistakes like this.

Terrible half-assed route by Williams there.

On top of that as a receiver you have to see that defender underneath you and work to the sideline to get open. From that angle you can really see the tight window that Cassell was trying to throw it into. Cassell had no other choice but to throw it to the outside and Williams needs to see that as well with that defender sitting underneath.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Dude, I've forgotten more about football than you'll ever know.

I would tell you to continue on with your moron schtick, but it's not a schtick.

You're just really that dumb.

Really?

The fact that you did not know a hitch does not go to the sideline refutes your knowledge level.

It's funny how quick moron is used when people have nothing else to go to.

I really would like to know how you gained all of this football knowledge have you ever played or coached?

 

[Jiggyfly]

But he writes a weekly "column" with a spiffy name, so must know what he's talking about.

Your words really hurt.

You feel better know?

 

[Carp]

Aikman, Cris Carter, TO...just to name a few, they all said it was Williams fault.

 

[NoDak]

Your words really hurt.

You feel better know?

Do my words cut like a nife?

 

[Jiggyfly]

Dude, I've forgotten more about football than you'll ever know.

I would tell you to continue on with your moron schtick, but it's not a schtick.

You're just really that dumb.

This coming from an idiot who claimed a hitch is run to sideline.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Aikman, Cris Carter, TO...just to name a few, they all said it was Williams fault.

I always acknowledged that it could be, just wanted to know what was the route called.

 

[ravidubey]

Cassel threw an out pass.

Williams might have been thinking it was a comeback route.

Mix up.

Williams looked surprised and did not react in time to block DRC. To be fair the ball was in the air and maybe he couldn't have reacted fast enough.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Cassel threw an out pass.

Williams might have been thinking it was a comeback route.

Mix up.

Williams looked surprised and did not react in time to block DRC. To be fair the ball was in the air and maybe he couldn't have reacted fast enough.

I don't think Williams thought the ball was coming to him and ran a lazy route, it was bracket coverage if Cassel through it as a comeback he had a defender right in front of him it looks like he saw him and then tried to lead him outside.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I don't think Williams thought the ball was coming to him and ran a lazy route, it was bracket coverage if Cassel through it as a comeback he had a defender right in front of him it looks like he saw him and then tried to lead him outside.

Sad thing is it looks like Shrimp Beasley or some other WR was open over the middle if he had just gone to the next progression.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Sad thing is it looks like Shrimp Beasley or some other WR was open over the middle if he had just gone to the next progression.

Yeah it was a bad read.