Pastor outed on Ashley Madison commits suicide

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Yeah, so I was basically homeless with a wife in tow. No sign of a better life in the future. A job, barely. Had just dropped out of college sealing the impending future darkness. Not sure how I would ever have a family even if I wanted to. Family hated me. Extended family hated me even more. All caused by my own actions, but I wouldn't exactly have placed me in the "feeling really down" category. I was the definition of clinically depressed with the ridiculously negative effect of drugs on top of it.


Actually if you you pulled yourself up then you probably weren't clinically depressed. I'm pretty sure those folks need medical attention and cannot over come their situation without it.

Lookit, I've been down pretty far. I won't tell the story cause it would be like a contest to see who was worse off. That would be dumb.

Its all good, if you feel that you know the ins and outs of psychiatry then go ion with your bad self.

You should seriously get yourself a suicide hotline. You been through a bunch and made it so these pussies ought to give you a ring so you can tell them to how to fix shit.
 

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Actually if you you pulled yourself up then you probably weren't clinically depressed. I'm pretty sure those folks need medical attention and cannot over come their situation without it.

Lookit, I've been down pretty far. I won't tell the story cause it would be like a contest to see who was worse off. That would be dumb.

Its all good, if you feel that you know the ins and outs of psychiatry then go ion with your bad self.

You should seriously get yourself a suicide hotline. You been through a bunch and made it so these pussies ought to give you a ring so you can tell them to how to fix shit.
To be honest, I have seriously thought about speaking about my past to recovery groups. I have never made the leap because it felt like bragging to me, but I thought that just maybe if it would help someone get out of wherever they are it might help.

And I don't know the ins and outs of psychiatry. I just know how I felt, and I can't imagine anything deeper.
 

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To be honest, I have seriously thought about speaking about my past to recovery groups. I have never made the leap because it felt like bragging to me, but I thought that just maybe if it would help someone get out of wherever they are it might help.

And I don't know the ins and outs of psychiatry. I just know how I felt, and I can't imagine anything deeper.
Well, there is much worse. People live worse off for generations with no hope of change.

You would suck at speaking at recovery groups before you have no empathy or compassion. What are you going to tell them? I was worse off than you and made it out cause I'm awesome. If yall would stop sucking you could be like me... Haha

For reals though, you are still mistaking what you've been through and difficulty level with a clinical problem. That's like saying that Larry Allen worked hard to bench 800lbs so you should be able to do the same. You can't just demand that people overcome a chemical imbalance in their brain cause you been down some rough roads and made it out. That's cray.
 

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Well, there is much worse. People live worse off for generations with no hope of change.

You would suck at speaking at recovery groups before you have no empathy or compassion. What are you going to tell them? I was worse off than you and made it out cause I'm awesome. If yall would stop sucking you could be like me... Haha

For reals though, you are still mistaking what you've been through and difficulty level with a clinical problem. That's like saying that Larry Allen worked hard to bench 800lbs so you should be able to do the same. You can't just demand that people overcome a chemical imbalance in their brain cause you been down some rough roads and made it out. That's cray.
I know you're the expert, but allow me to drop some knowledge. Depression is not just relegated to chemical imbalance. It is also circumstantial. Fact.

I'm not going to argue with you about my validity of speaking since you already seem to know how much I would suck at it. I have zero experience and didn't have a chemical imbalance in me, even though I did, so I will let you have that point, even though you're wrong.
 

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I know you're the expert, but allow me to drop some knowledge. Depression is not just relegated to chemical imbalance. It is also circumstantial. Fact.

I'm not going to argue with you about my validity of speaking since you already seem to know how much I would suck at it. I have zero experience and didn't have a chemical imbalance in me, even though I did, so I will let you have that point, even though you're wrong.
I was sorta just screwing with you.

Buuuut I've been drug treatment 7 times, went to a psychiatric facility for 7 months, went prison (safe P) when I was 17 years old and spent 4 years as the Hospitials and Institution chair for N/A. I run the recovery program at my church for addiction. I had a meeting with my client from our program (where I'm a certified life coach) at 4 today. I do that with more than one person.

A dude committed suicide because he was distraught over his own mistakes. Your response was that you don't feel bad for him. Your reasoning was because you've been through some stuff and you cannot imagine feeling worse. That suggests that it is is fault which flies I the face of what being diagnosed with clinical depression is. You would be kicked out of a recovery group for taking like that because it lacks empathy and is a terrible approach in that setting.

Come on, brotha. Just move on.
 

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[MENTION=12]Deuce[/MENTION] would probably school is both in this area because he is a real professional.
 

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I was sorta just screwing with you.

Buuuut I've been drug treatment 7 times, went to a psychiatric facility for 7 months, went prison (safe P) when I was 17 years old and spent 4 years as the Hospitials and Institution chair for N/A. I run the recovery program at my church for addiction. I had a meeting with my client from our program (where I'm a certified life coach) at 4 today. I do that with more than one person.

A dude committed suicide because he was distraught over his own mistakes. Your response was that you don't feel bad for him. Your reasoning was because you've been through some stuff and you cannot imagine feeling worse. That suggests that it is is fault which flies I the face of what being diagnosed with clinical depression is. You would be kicked out of a recovery group for taking like that because it lacks empathy and is a terrible approach in that setting.

Come on, brotha. Just move on.
The dude reacted to being caught cheating. He was never diagnosed as clinically depressed. He couldn't move forward because his status in life was unimaginable to him. I can understand his pain. I just can't understand him hurting his family even further by being a little self-centered prick who only thought about himself. But, you're the expert, so...
 

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The dude reacted to being caught cheating. He was never diagnosed as clinically depressed. He couldn't move forward because his status in life was unimaginable to him. I can understand his pain. I just can't understand him hurting his family even further by being a little self-centered prick who only thought about himself. But, you're the expert, so...
I don't know if he was diagnosed with anything. How would you? Got his medical records or something?


I am far from an expert. I just have my experience. What compels you to keep saying that? I'm not real sure.

I don't have the heart to judge the dude and assume that he's a f-up and shoulda known better. If you say what you say about him and feels ok with your conscience then go for it. That's just not something I'd say or do.
 

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I don't know if he was diagnosed with anything. How would you? Got his medical records or something?


I am far from an expert. I just have my experience. What compels you to keep saying that? I'm not real sure.

I don't have the heart to judge the dude and assume that he's a f-up and shoulda known better. If you say what you say about him and feels ok with your conscience then go for it. That's just not something I'd say or do.
:lol

Your entire post I quoted makes you seem like a self-declared expert. Good lord. But, here is the best part.

Buuuut I've been drug treatment 7 times, went to a psychiatric facility for 7 months, went prison (safe P) when I was 17 years old and spent 4 years as the Hospitials and Institution chair for N/A. I run the recovery program at my church for addiction. I had a meeting with my client from our program (where I'm a certified life coach) at 4 today. I do that with more than one person.
 

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Oh, and I don't wanna judge the dude. I just think he's extremely self-centered for putting his family in that terrible position. I hate people that commit suicide.
 

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Your entire post I quoted makes you seem like a self-declared expert. Good lord. But, here is the best part.

Buuuut I've been drug treatment 7 times, went to a psychiatric facility for 7 months, went prison (safe P) when I was 17 years old and spent 4 years as the Hospitials and Institution chair for N/A. I run the recovery program at my church for addiction. I had a meeting with my client from our program (where I'm a certified life coach) at 4 today. I do that with more than one person.
So let me get this straight...when you said what you've been through its alright. You were the first one to do that. When I did it I was declaring myself an expert? Should I have dumbed it down so to not seem so experty?

I was just trying to give my reason for thinking it would be a terrible approach to try to advise folks in that tone. Be to for it if it makes you feel good.
 
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Oh, and I don't wanna judge the dude. I just think he's extremely self-centered for putting his family in that terrible position. I hate people that commit suicide.
Too late. You already judged him.

What I was suggesting was that maybe he was clinically depressed. You made it seem like if he wasn't a pussy he'd overcome it like you. So you understand what clinical means?
 

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Have you ever blew it big time or been desperate/destitute? I have.
I was broke as hell and lost everything, financially. What happened was, my wife didn't leave me. I don't know if I would have made it out the other side if she hadn't stuck with me through us being broke. Now, that time when I was broke as hell and out of a job and couldn't afford food more expensive than rice and frozen turkey, I get to look back on as a happy memory because my wife ate the shitty food we could afford and stuck with me.

I might have killed myself if I had done something to make her leave me like that man did.
 
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Well, this thread took a turn. Last I left it, it looked like it was becoming a :lol @ Christians thread and I bailed.

From a clinical perspective, depression is sometimes tricky because it's not always the main problem. For someone who is diagnosed with Major Depression, it's something they battle their whole life in periods and isn't always brought on by a trigger. If this guys mood was solely triggered by this situation and he had no history of depression, than his mood was more a symptom of the overall problem than being the problem itself. From how Iamtdg described his past, I would guess he was the same way. Doesn't mean it didn't feel the same, his symptoms like s/I were any less severe or have a similar impact on him as any Major Depressive patient, but if his life stressors were corrected and his mood lifted than he isn't actually diagnosed as depressed. Real Depressive people are going to continue to have those bouts regardless. There are also time frames to the symptoms, but I don't think they play as big a part of it as others do.

As far as speaking to others at support groups, ya I wouldn't give your personal opinion about people who commit suicide just cause it puts a negative vibe out there in a supporting environment. That can be toxic. But I still encourage people to do it cause there's nothing more powerful for people going through shit than hearing others who have been there and overcame it.
 

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Well, this thread took a turn. Last I left it, it looked like it was becoming a :lol @ Christians thread and I bailed.

From a clinical perspective, depression is sometimes tricky because it's not always the main problem. For someone who is diagnosed with Major Depression, it's something they battle their whole life in periods and isn't always brought on by a trigger. If this guys mood was solely triggered by this situation and he had no history of depression, than his mood was more a symptom of the overall problem than being the problem itself. From how Iamtdg described his past, I would guess he was the same way. Doesn't mean it didn't feel the same, his symptoms like s/I were any less severe or have a similar impact on him as any Major Depressive patient, but if his life stressors were corrected and his mood lifted than he isn't actually diagnosed as depressed. Real Depressive people are going to continue to have those bouts regardless. There are also time frames to the symptoms, but I don't think they play as big a part of it as others do.

As far as speaking to others at support groups, ya I wouldn't give your personal opinion about people who commit suicide just cause it puts a negative vibe out there in a supporting environment. That can be toxic. But I still encourage people to do it cause there's nothing more powerful for people going through shit than hearing others who have been there and overcame it.
Props. Yeah, if I were to ever speak to a group like that my opinion on suicide would never come up. :lol
 

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Well, this thread took a turn. Last I left it, it looked like it was becoming a :lol @ Christians thread and I bailed.

From a clinical perspective, depression is sometimes tricky because it's not always the main problem. For someone who is diagnosed with Major Depression, it's something they battle their whole life in periods and isn't always brought on by a trigger. If this guys mood was solely triggered by this situation and he had no history of depression, than his mood was more a symptom of the overall problem than being the problem itself. From how Iamtdg described his past, I would guess he was the same way. Doesn't mean it didn't feel the same, his symptoms like s/I were any less severe or have a similar impact on him as any Major Depressive patient, but if his life stressors were corrected and his mood lifted than he isn't actually diagnosed as depressed. Real Depressive people are going to continue to have those bouts regardless. There are also time frames to the symptoms, but I don't think they play as big a part of it as others do.

As far as speaking to others at support groups, ya I wouldn't give your personal opinion about people who commit suicide just cause it puts a negative vibe out there in a supporting environment. That can be toxic. But I still encourage people to do it cause there's nothing more powerful for people going through shit than hearing others who have been there and overcame it.
Thanks, Doc. Is there an extra fee I can pay for you to just say that I was right? Also, can you please write a prescription for iamtdg to be nicer to me?
 
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Thanks, Doc. Is there an extra fee I can pay for you to just say that I was right? Also, can you please write a prescription for iamtdg to be nicer to me?
I think it's pretty obvious he stopped taking his happy pills during the Wade Phillips era.
 

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I was sorta just screwing with you.

Buuuut I've been drug treatment 7 times, went to a psychiatric facility for 7 months, went prison (safe P) when I was 17 years old and spent 4 years as the Hospitials and Institution chair for N/A. I run the recovery program at my church for addiction. I had a meeting with my client from our program (where I'm a certified life coach) at 4 today. I do that with more than one person.

A dude committed suicide because he was distraught over his own mistakes. Your response was that you don't feel bad for him. Your reasoning was because you've been through some stuff and you cannot imagine feeling worse. That suggests that it is is fault which flies I the face of what being diagnosed with clinical depression is. You would be kicked out of a recovery group for taking like that because it lacks empathy and is a terrible approach in that setting.

Come on, brotha. Just move on.
Yep.
 

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Bro, do you even life coach?
 
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