Pastor outed on Ashley Madison commits suicide

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Pastor outed on Ashley Madison commits suicide
September 08 NEW YORK
John Gibson was a pastor and seminary professor. When he wasn't teaching at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, one of his favorite pastimes was fixing cars.
He was married with two children. His daughter, Callie, was teaching in front of 250 college students when she got the call. Her father had killed himself.
It was August 24, six days after hackers exposed the names of millions of people who had signed up for Ashley Madison, the notorious site for those seeking affairs. Gibson's name was on the list.
His wife, Christi, discovered her husband's body.
"It was a moment that life doesn't prepare you for," she told CNNMoney. "I had to call my kids. How do you tell your kids that their dad is gone and that he took his own life?"
Related: Ashley Madison sued by anonymous clients
In his suicide note, Gibson chronicled his demons. He also mentioned Ashley Madison.
"He talked about depression. He talked about having his name on there, and he said he was just very, very sorry," Christi said. "What we know about him is that he poured his life into other people, and he offered grace and mercy and forgiveness to everyone else, but somehow he couldn't extend that to himself."
Ashley Madison was hacked in July, and hackers released users' personal information in August. Since then, authorities in Toronto have said they're investigating suicides that could be linked to the data dump. Hackers have also sent extortion emails to people who were on the list.
Gibson said her husband was likely worried he'd lose his job.
"It wasn't so bad that we wouldn't have forgiven it, and so many people have said that to us, but for John, it carried such a shame," she said.
Gibson, 56, was known as a great teacher with a "quirky laugh," but he had struggled with depression and addiction in the past, his family said.
In a statement, a spokesman for Avid Life Media, Ashley Madison's parent company, expressed the firm's condolences.
"Dr. Gibson's passing is a stark, heart-wrenching reminder that the criminal hack against our company and our customers has had very real consequences for a great many innocent people."
Related: CEO of Ashley Madison parent company steps down after hack
Since his death, his family has made a pact to be more transparent with one another about their struggles.
Christi Gibson has a message for the 32 million people exposed and their communities.
"These were real people with real families, real pain and real loss," she says. But "don't underestimate the power of love. Nothing is worth the loss of a father and a husband and a friend. It just didn't merit it. It didn't merit it at all."
--Eric Marrapodi contributed reporting to this story.
 

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Formatting on my phone sucks.

I'm hoping this ends up in the religion threads. Lots of juicy stuff here.
 

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Can you believe that someone could have been suckered into such an obvious scam built on desperation and delusion and fueling fantasies with outright lies? He probably shouldn't have joined that cheating website either.
 

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Freakin' preachers.

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Can you believe that someone could have been suckered into such an obvious scam built on desperation and delusion and fueling fantasies with outright lies? He probably shouldn't have joined that cheating website either.
:lol
 

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John Gibson was a pastor and seminary professor. When he wasn't teaching at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, his favorite pastimes were fixing cars and cheating on his wife..
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"These were real people with real families
That they are betraying.

Lookit, I get it. Not everyone is going to be faithful to their spouse, but everyone knows the risks of cheating. You can get caught. Doesn't matter if it is by happenstance, a suspicious spouse hiring a PI to tail the suspected cheater, or some a-hole hacker putting it online. It sucks that it devastates some people to the point that they would take their own life, but I do not have a lot of sympathy in these cases. They cheated, they got caught. Doesn't matter how or why. Deal with the consequences.
 
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That they are betraying.

Lookit, I get it. Not everyone is going to be faithful to their spouse, but everyone knows the risks of cheating. You can get caught. Doesn't matter if it is by happenstance, a suspicious spouse hiring a PI to tail the suspected cheater, or some a-hole hacker putting it online. It sucks that it devastates some people to the point that they would take their own life, but I do not have a lot of sympathy in these cases. They cheated, they got caught. Doesn't matter how or why. Deal with the consequences.
I agree. But for the cheater' s own actions this story never happens.
 

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That they are betraying.

Lookit, I get it. Not everyone is going to be faithful to their spouse, but everyone knows the risks of cheating. You can get caught. Doesn't matter if it is by happenstance, a suspicious spouse hiring a PI to tail the suspected cheater, or some a-hole hacker putting it online. It sucks that it devastates some people to the point that they would take their own life, but I do not have a lot of sympathy in these cases. They cheated, they got caught. Doesn't matter how or why. Deal with the consequences.
You don't have sympathy for someone that kills themselves? Dawg. Honestly, I feel for anyone who saw no other way out. That meant that their own desperation overtook them. To me there is a ton to be compassionate about. It could be clinical depression, mental problems or whatever.
 

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The bigger thing here for me is why didn't this dude know that there is forgiveness for those who screw up.

Prolly some sorta legalistic theology here like usual.
 

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You don't have sympathy for someone that kills themselves? Dawg. Honestly, I feel for anyone who saw no other way out. That meant that their own desperation overtook them. To me there is a ton to be compassionate about. It could be clinical depression, mental problems or whatever.
Well, sure I have some sympathy for someone who is so desperate that they take their own life. I can see how the way I worded my post would give the impression that I don't, but the lack of sympathy is more centered around the fact that these people as a whole were exposed as cheaters, not so much this specific suicide case. Cheating is a risky business and they were outed.

I feel for anyone who struggles with depression. It is no joke and can be very dangerous to the affected person if they do not actively seek treatment/support. I do not feel bad that he got caught cheating though. He deserved that.

I would assume that he must have been unbelievably tortured by this because the prevailing opinion I have heard from Christians is that suicide is the unforgivable sin and if you kill yourself you are automatically doomed to hell. I don't know if all Christians believe that (or if it is truly scripturally accurate) but I have certainly heard it over and over. If this guy believed it and still killed himself...poor bastard must have literally been out of his mind at the time.
 
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The bigger thing here for me is why didn't this dude know that there is forgiveness for those who screw up.

Prolly some sorta legalistic theology here like usual.
There's a lot to be said about having your public persona shattered. Even if it's just a character you play out in public, losing the ability to become The Pastor can really throw someone into an identity crisis.
 

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You don't have sympathy for someone that kills themselves? Dawg. Honestly, I feel for anyone who saw no other way out. That meant that their own desperation overtook them. To me there is a ton to be compassionate about. It could be clinical depression, mental problems or whatever.
I feel sorry for their family, and that's about it.
 

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Well, sure I have some sympathy for someone who is so desperate that they take their own life. I can see how the way I worded my post would give the impression that I don't, but the lack of sympathy is more centered around the fact that these people as a whole were exposed as cheaters, not so much this specific suicide case. Cheating is a risky business and they were outed.

I feel for anyone who struggles with depression. It is no joke and can be very dangerous to the affected person if they do not actively seek treatment/support. I do not feel bad that he got caught cheating though. He deserved that.

I would assume that he must have been unbelievably tortured by this because the prevailing opinion I have heard from Christians is that suicide is the unforgivable sin and if you kill yourself you are automatically doomed to hell. I don't know if all Christians believe that (or if it is truly scripturally accurate) but I have certainly heard it over and over. If this guy believed it and still killed himself...poor bastard must have literally been out of his mind at the time.
I can see not feeling bad for someone getting caught. In reality he deserved to get caught. Nobody likes a cheater. I damn sure don't want everything I've done that is stupid exposed though.

I don't think anyone can point to any one scripture that proves that suicide sends you to hell.
 

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Have you ever blew it big time or been desperate/destitute? I have.
Hell yes, I have. I have even had suicidal thoughts. But, I thought it would be a pretty shitty thing to do to my family and didn't follow through with it. I have been about depressed as one could be, but it's a very selfish thing to do.
 

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Hell yes, I have. I have even had suicidal thoughts. But, I thought it would be a pretty shitty thing to do to my family and didn't follow through with it. I have been about depressed as one could be, but it's a very selfish thing to do.
I agree with you about the selfish thing. Some get so depressed that logic is impossible.
 

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I agree with you about the selfish thing. Some get so depressed that logic is impossible.
Depression and drugs together make it much worse, and I still didn't do it. Not saying I am some superhuman in super control of my emotions. Just saying those types of feelings can be overcome so as not to incur massive pain on the family around you.
 

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Depression and drugs together make it much worse, and I still didn't do it. Not saying I am some superhuman in super control of my emotions. Just saying those types of feelings can be overcome so as not to incur massive pain on the family around you.
So you just solved suicide? Congrats.

I think you have mistaken clinical depression with feeling really down.
 

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So you just solved suicide? Congrats.

I think you have mistaken clinical depression with feeling really down.
Yeah, so I was basically homeless with a wife in tow. No sign of a better life in the future. A job, barely. Had just dropped out of college sealing the impending future darkness. Not sure how I would ever have a family even if I wanted to. Family hated me. Extended family hated me even more. All caused by my own actions, but I wouldn't exactly have placed me in the "feeling really down" category. I was the definition of clinically depressed with the ridiculously negative effect of drugs on top of it.
 
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