The Cuts/Signings Thread...

[Carp]

I did say I would take at vet minimum so I fail to see how this has any bearing on that.

I never said he was useless just not some slam dunk answer.

But it's Carp who can never pass up a chance to get a dig in any no matter what.

Remember when people brought up the low production of Brent in terms of sacks and tackles...at the time you pointed out that as a DT his numbers were going to be low and really made no difference. Now Phil Taylor's low production in terms of sacks and tackles is being used against him. Whatever is convenient.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Remember when people brought up the low production of Brent in terms of sacks and tackles...at the time you pointed out that as a DT his numbers were going to be low and really made no difference. Now Phil Taylor's low production in terms of sacks and tackles is being used against him. Whatever is convenient.

Yeah Taylor is a hell of a talent and still young. The only concern I have with him is the injuries. Of his 4 years in the NFL he has really only played in the majority of the game 2 of those seasons. He's 10 times the talent that Hayden is.

 

[NoDak]

Remember when people brought up the low production of Brent in terms of sacks and tackles...at the time you pointed out that as a DT his numbers were going to be low and really made no difference. Now Phil Taylor's low production in terms of sacks and tackles is being used against him. Whatever is convenient.

#DTstatsmatter

~raises fist~

 

[Jiggyfly]

Remember when people brought up the low production of Brent in terms of sacks and tackles...at the time you pointed out that as a DT his numbers were going to be low and really made no difference. Now Phil Taylor's low production in terms of sacks and tackles is being used against him. Whatever is convenient.

And yet again Brent was a low cost player and I was advocating for him as a piece to the puzzle and not the answer.

My issue was with people saying cut Hayden and Mclain and bring him in as if he is the answer, I also notice you keep ignoring the fact that I said I would bring him in on a low cost contract.

My issue with Taylor is health anyway is that not a reason to think his value would be minimal?

And by the way.

The Browns caught many observers off guard when they released defensive tackle and former first-round pick Phil Taylor on Tuesday, especially since his $5.5. million salary was already guaranteed.

When they gave Taylor his walking papers, the Browns essentially gave Taylor free reign to play somewhere else while still receiving their checks. After Taylor's visit with the Steelers did not result in a contract, perhaps the Browns knew more than meets the eye.


The Steelers passed on signing Taylor, believing that his twice surgically-repaired knee is not fully healed, and in fact, needs more surgery, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com confirmed a report from Pro Football Talk that Taylor requested his release rather than going on injured reserve as the Browns initially proposed.

The Browns exercised Taylor's fifth-year option earlier this offseason, and it became fully guaranteed on March 10. That was before the team used its 12th overall pick on nose tackle Danny Shelton, who had a strong training camp.

Taylor initially had surgery on his knee last October after suffering the injury in a game against the Titans. He returned a month later, only to re-injure the same knee, requiring another procedure.

As many as 10 teams expressed interest in Taylor, according to Cleveland.com, a number that is sure to decline in the wake of this news about Taylor's knee.

h/t: Cleveland.com

 

[Jiggyfly]

Yeah Taylor is a hell of a talent and still young. The only concern I have with him is the injuries. Of his 4 years in the NFL he has really only played in the majority of the game 2 of those seasons. He's 10 times the talent that Hayden is.

I agree he has talent but outside of his rookie year he has been a no show.

 

[Carp]

Oh cool...so it was 10 teams instead of 8.

GSM

 

[Jiggyfly]

Oh cool...so it was 10 teams instead of 8.

GSM

Really GSM indeed.

If Steelers are right, ex-Browns D-lineman Phil Taylor needs third knee surgery in less than a year
By NATE ULRICH Published: September 3, 2015

If the Pittsburgh Steelers are correct, former Browns defensive lineman Phil Taylor needs to undergo a third knee surgery in less than a year.

The Steelers are not interested in signing Taylor because when he visited them as a free agent Wednesday, they determined he wouldn't be able to play anytime soon due to a bad knee that requires surgery, an unnamed source recently told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
The Browns reached an injury settlement with Taylor and terminated his contract Tuesday. The move was a surprise partly because the franchise had to pay Taylor his $5.477 million base salary for the coming season. The Browns picked up the fifth-year option on Taylor's rookie contract in May 2014, and the money became guaranteed when he remained on the roster at the start of the league year this past March.

A first-round draft pick in 2011, Taylor had arthroscopic surgery on his right knee in October and a more serious operation on the same knee in November. Taylor, 27, and Browns coach Mike Pettine have said the second surgery was more than a standard cleanup, but they have not specified the exact nature of the second procedure. Taylor has said it wasn't microfracture surgery.

The 6-foot-3, 335-pound Taylor had been limited this summer throughout training camp as he tried to bounce back from the knee surgeries. Taylor sat out the first two preseason games but appeared in the third one Saturday night against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He played 11 snaps (20 percent of the defense's plays).
Still, a couple of days after the game, Pettine said he didn't know when Taylor would be able to contribute during the regular season.

“I don’t because that was a pretty serious knee injury and those things take time,” Pettine said Monday. “I just don’t have a good answer for that.”

The next day, Taylor was gone, and the report out of Pittsburgh further explains the move. The Browns could have placed Taylor on season-ending injured reserve, but ProFootballTalk.com reported the big man asked for his release in hopes of playing this year.

 

[boozeman]

Lighten up. Have you ever even coached, bro?

 

[Jiggyfly]

And for the record I would still sign him at vet minimum if we thought his knee could get better as a long-range piece.

 

[Smitty]

Well no one said bring in Taylor for a huge signing bonus either, so acting like we are all fools for wanting to bring him in, then saying you would sign him for the minimum.... kinda makes no sense.

 

[Cotton]

 

[GForce78NJ]

Would ya?!

 

[1bigfan13]

 

[Genghis Khan]

Eagles also cut that running back moster.I think I would pick him up. He was pretty good.

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[1bigfan13]

Jonas Gray would be a nice pick up for our RB rotation.

 

[Carp]

Jonas Gray would be a nice pick up for our RB rotation.

Totally agree.

 

[1bigfan13]

Reggie Wayne released by the Patriots.

 

[boozeman]

Reggie Wayne released by the Patriots.

Belichick don't play.