Greg Hardy better appeal

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After that asshat Brady just won his appeal, fucking cheating bitch.
 

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LOL at Goodell. Move over Bob Dole, America has a new face for impotence.
 

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Brady was utterly jobbed for basically not doing anything and regarding an almost silly rule. Hardy did something kind of fucked up by any standard. He was found guilty (retard NC court system aside), thus opening himself up to Goodell's judgement.

The only argument he could win would be consistency of punishment. Ray Rice's "standard" of a two game suspension was hotly contested, so the four games he's got might not be worth challenging.
 

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Brady was utterly jobbed for basically not doing anything and regarding an almost silly rule. Hardy did something kind of fucked up by any standard. He was found guilty (retard NC court system aside), thus opening himself up to Goodell's judgement.

The only argument he could win would be consistency of punishment. Ray Rice's "standard" of a two game suspension was hotly contested, so the four games he's got might not be worth challenging.
wasn't his guilty verdict overturned before Goodell rendered judgement? Also if Goodell wanted to enforce based on that cursory fake trial, he shouldn't have waited a year while Hardy was already suspended by the Panthers.
 

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Brady was utterly jobbed for basically not doing anything and regarding an almost silly rule. Hardy did something kind of fucked up by any standard. He was found guilty (retard NC court system aside), thus opening himself up to Goodell's judgement.

The only argument he could win would be consistency of punishment. Ray Rice's "standard" of a two game suspension was hotly contested, so the four games he's got might not be worth challenging.
that retard NC court system is a key issue though. That "conviction" is meaningless. If you're not found guilty by a jury of you're peers you're still innocent until proven guilty under the constitution.
 

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Report: Greg Hardy considering suspension appeal after Brady ruling

Dallas Cowboys defensive end Greg Hardy is considering challenging his four-game suspension from the NFL in court following Thursday’s ruling from federal judge Richard Berman nullifying Tom Brady’s Deflategate punishment, reports ESPN’s Ed Werder.

Hardy was originally suspended 10 games by the league after he was found guilty of misdemeanor domestic violence charges. After an appeal, his suspension was lowered to four games as the crime occurred before the league’s new domestic abuse policy was instituted.

The charges against Hardy were dismissed after his accuser could not be located to testify during his appeal of the initial conviction.

Under his current suspension, Hardy’s first game with the Cowboys will be against the New England Patriots on Oct. 11.

Hardy signed a one-year contract with Dallas this offseason worth up to $13 million, after missing all but one game last season after being placed on the commissioner’s exempt list while he was awaiting trial.
 

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that retard NC court system is a key issue though. That "conviction" is meaningless. If you're not found guilty by a jury of you're peers you're still innocent until proven guilty under the constitution.
Technically the way the law works, that conviction never actually happened. That's the whole point of the process.
 

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Technically the way the law works, that conviction never actually happened. That's the whole point of the process.
It's irritating that people keep acting like it was a legit jury conviction that was overturned on appeal to a higher court.
 

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It's irritating that people keep acting like it was a legit jury conviction that was overturned on appeal to a higher court.
Yeah, that's why people have a right to a jury trial in America. The process in NC sounds like they do it that way to clear out a bunch of cases before they have the stamina to get to a jury trial.
 

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If the reason the judge vacated judgment on Brady is because of the process of punishment (i.e. Fag Goodell being a dictator) rather than guilt, they need to do this. And do it now.

Might as well strike when they are down. It sounds to me the NFL needs to get that having Goodell as judge, jury and executioner under the CBA is not exactly a good mix.

There has been too much flip flopping under his watch.
 

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that retard NC court system is a key issue though. That "conviction" is meaningless. If you're not found guilty by a jury of you're peers you're still innocent until proven guilty under the constitution.
Preaching to the choir here.

I think it's idiotic, but it's enough to get Goodell involved regardless of whatever happened later.
 

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Preaching to the choir here.

I think it's idiotic, but it's enough to get Goodell involved regardless of whatever happened later.
Involved, yes, a year off plus four games? I don't think, considering the actions of Federal courts lately, that a judge will agree with that.
 

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Not sure how the Brady decision changes Hardy's appeal.

The judge claimed Brady wasn't warned he could face a 4 game suspension for deflating footballs-- IOW breaking an NFL rule. Players who commit felonies clearly face all kinds of fines and suspensions.

Hardy needs to pursue the angle that technically he broke no law. Especially since Goodell suspended him after the court case went through due process.

Brady's decision seems to be completely different-- other than the perception that the NFL is now somehow more vulnerable to court decisions.
 

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Not sure how the Brady decision changes Hardy's appeal.

The judge claimed Brady wasn't warned he could face a 4 game suspension for deflating footballs-- IOW breaking an NFL rule. Players who commit felonies clearly face all kinds of fines and suspensions.

Hardy needs to pursue the angle that technically he broke no law. Especially since Goodell suspended him after the court case went through due process.

Brady's decision seems to be completely different-- other than the perception that the NFL is now somehow more vulnerable to court decisions.
It is the same because when Hardy committed the alleged act the suspension was for 2 games and that's without the fact the crime was never fully prosecuted.
 

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Not sure how the Brady decision changes Hardy's appeal.

The judge claimed Brady wasn't warned he could face a 4 game suspension for deflating footballs-- IOW breaking an NFL rule. Players who commit felonies clearly face all kinds of fines and suspensions.

Hardy needs to pursue the angle that technically he broke no law. Especially since Goodell suspended him after the court case went through due process.

Brady's decision seems to be completely different-- other than the perception that the NFL is now somehow more vulnerable to court decisions.
I was talking more about Adrian Peterson than Brady. There's no way the NFL can punish Hardy, who is legally innocent, more than Peterson, who plead guilty.
 

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Not sure how the Brady decision changes Hardy's appeal.

The judge claimed Brady wasn't warned he could face a 4 game suspension for deflating footballs-- IOW breaking an NFL rule. Players who commit felonies clearly face all kinds of fines and suspensions.

Hardy needs to pursue the angle that technically he broke no law. Especially since Goodell suspended him after the court case went through due process.

Brady's decision seems to be completely different-- other than the perception that the NFL is now somehow more vulnerable to court decisions.
I'm pretty sure Hardy was charged with a misdemeanor, not a felony.
 

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I'm pretty sure Hardy was charged with a misdemeanor, not a felony.
And, you would be correct. Here's your autographed Bobby Carpenter jersey, courtesy of the DCC.
 

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And, you would be correct. Here's your autographed Bobby Carpenter jersey, courtesy of the DCC.
WTF? My Bobby Carpenter jersey wasn't autographed!

~flips table. Throws bitch on futon full of guns~
 

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I'm pretty sure Hardy was charged with a misdemeanor, not a felony.
It was a misdemeanor. On felonies I'm sure NC doesn't even bother with that judge tried crap unless the defendant requests it. (Bench Trial is what we call it here)
 

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WTF? My Bobby Carpenter jersey wasn't autographed!

~flips table. Throws bitch on futon full of guns~
Back then it was worth 5 bucks more than it is now. We figured the autograph made up for that 5 bucks.
 
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