2016 POTUS Election Thread

[skidadl]

Lol

 

[fortsbest]

No they hate welfare. Or rather they have an archetype of a "typical welfare recipient" in their head, and hate them. They make excuses for it, but there's a reason welfare recipients are treated like convicts in this country.

No dude, we hate the abuses of welfare. I used to see it every frickin day when I worked patrol. Sure there are people that it is absolutely needed for, but I bet half who receive government aid now don't.

 

[boozeman]

 

[VA Cowboy]

It was a train wreck, how any one could vote for any of those guys is beyond me. No policy no substance, just empty rhetoric, gnashing of teeth/whining re the president and Hillary.

Says the guy who voted for Obama. lol

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[townsend]

Says the guy who voted for Obama. lol

you always know when someone is a brainwashed member of the Republican Party, when they act like the word Obama is like the ultimate insult mic drop.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

you always know when someone is a brainwashed member of the Republican Party, when they act like the word Obama is like the ultimate insult mic drop.

Do you think Obama has been a good president?

 

[townsend]

Do you think Obama has been a good president?

middle of the road. I hate his drone warfare and ACA. Not fond of Trans Pacific partnership.

Love the deal with Iran and the end of Cuba's embargo. Marriage equality getting through during his term of office (although a Bush appointee was a crucial part of that too.) is a big deal. He's also the first president to tout criminal justice reform.

In the end I'm more satisfied than I was with the last President or (likely) the next.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

In the end I'm more satisfied than I was with the last President or (likely) the next.

It's really hard to say on this only because I don't know who the next president will be. I think Obama has done some bad things. I think Obamacare has taken our health care industry backwards. The economy has taken steps in the wrong direction under him despite what some try to justify with the numbers. But the majority of his presidency has been inactivity in my opinion. I can't really give him credit for things like gay marriage because it was a Supreme Court decision and really had nothing to do with Obama.

I do agree with you though that I don't think calling someone Obama is the end to a punchline. He hasn't been that epically bad of a president to justify that.

 

[townsend]

It's really hard to say on this only because I don't know who the next president will be. I think Obama has done some bad things. I think Obamacare has taken our health care industry backwards. The economy has taken steps in the wrong direction under him despite what some try to justify with the numbers. But the majority of his presidency has been inactivity in my opinion. I can't really give him credit for things like gay marriage because it was a Supreme Court decision and really had nothing to do with Obama.

I do agree with you though that I don't think calling someone Obama is the end to a punchline. He hasn't been that epically bad of a president to justify that.

He's been competent. If ideologically off-base. It says a lot that he's out there beating brows at the stage of the Presidency where Bush had tuned completely out, and Clinton had become a national laughing stock.

He's making a run at being the first president in a long time to make it through his second term without a major scandal.

That being said anyone ready to deify him could get an earful from me about all the stuff he's done wrong. The cataclysmic civilian death toll from drone warfare being the biggest jewel on that crown.

 

[BipolarFuk]

 

[Jiggyfly]

Presidential candidate named 'Deez Nuts' polling at 9% among North Carolina voters; unmasked as 15-year-old Iowa boy

quote:
The 2016 race for the Republican presidential nomination is officially nuts — "Deez Nuts."

The race, which already comprises 17 major candidates, got an additional entrant this week who has fashioned his name after an infamous rap song.

A person named "Deez Nuts" filed official paperwork with the Federal Election Commission to run for President Sunday, CBS News reported, joining more than 500 other random contenders who have the legal right to run for the presidency.

More shockingly, however, is how well Nuts, who is running as an independent, is faring in the key state of North Carolina, where, according a to a Public Policy Polling poll, the mysterious figure got the support of 9% of likely voters.

Nuts, of Wallingford, Iowa, also got the support of 8% of likely voters in Minnesota and 7% in of likely voters in Iowa, the poll found.

Nuts has not yet filed any campaign contributions with the FEC, the Washington Times reported.

Nuts registered under a name known widely as the sixth track on Dr. Dre's critically acclaimed 1992 album "The Chronic."

The song, titled "Deeez Nuuuts" contains a bevy of sexually explicit lyrics laid over a catchy beat.

On Wednesday afternoon, the suddenly popular candidate was unmasked as a 15-year-old boy from rural Iowa.

"When I heard about the Limberbutt McCubbins story, I realized I could,” Brady Olson told The Daily Beast, referring to another notorious fake candidate.“The next step is to get some party nominations, like the Minnesota Independence Party or the Modern Whig Party. It would also be great to find a VP, preferably McCubbins because the Nuts/McCubbins ticket sounds amazing.”

At least 512 people have formally filed a statement of candidacy for the 2016 presidential election with the Federal Election Commission, according to CBS News.

 

[BipolarFuk]

 

[L.T. Fan]

Actually there is a lot of truth in that.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Ted Cruz

 

[Cowboysrock55]

He's been competent.

I don't think he has been competent at all. But again, I don't think he has done anything horrific either. Oddly enough race relations have seemed to have gotten worse under him in America.

 

[townsend]

I don't think he has been competent at all. But again, I don't think he has done anything horrific either. Oddly enough race relations have seemed to have gotten worse under him in America.

I think Race relations have deteriorated largely because of the Internet. As we've discussed in the GPW thread there's been a lot of screwed up stuff happening to blacks that we're just now realizing is a daily occurrence.

Now add to that a slightly more mainstream black political voice, that powder keg's gonna go off.

Don't forget how many racists felt powerless when Obama got elected. Nothing says cornered animal quite like a gun enthusiast that wants his country back. The extremist right wing has been increasingly active over the last decade (because it knows it's dying). That does not help race relations either.

As far as competence goes. It's a mixed bag. Show me a "competent" president. I will show you a dozen bone head moves he made that made this country worse. So you have to grade on a curve. The Iran nuclear agreement was no simple task.

The fact that Obama managed to strike a decent deal (that none of his predecessors could have pulled off) to lift sanctions, in a multinational agreement, and has the enormous balls to defy Israel. Improves him a lot in my eyes.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I think Race relations have deteriorated largely because of the Internet. As we've discussed in the GPW thread there's been a lot of screwed up stuff happening to blacks that we're just now realizing is a daily occurrence.

Now add to that a slightly more mainstream black political voice, that powder keg's gonna go off.

Don't forget how many racists felt powerless when Obama got elected. Nothing says cornered animal quite like a gun enthusiast that wants his country back. The extremist right wing has been increasingly active over the last decade (because it knows it's dying). That does not help race relations either.

As far as competence goes. It's a mixed bag. Show me a "competent" president. I will show you a dozen bone head moves he made that made this country worse. So you have to grade on a curve. The Iran nuclear agreement was no simple task.

The fact that Obama managed to strike a decent deal (that none of his predecessors could have pulled off) to lift sanctions, in a multinational agreement, and has the enormous balls to defy Israel. Improves him a lot in my eyes.

You like the Iran deal do you?

 

[townsend]

You like the Iran deal do you?

Absolutely. As a libertarian I'm almost wholly opposed to sanctions. It allows the most corrupt and militant fringes of a country to prosper, while hurting legitimate business. There's no better nuclear deterrent than economic interdependence.

Iran was absolutely on its way to making a nuclear arsenal, while the craziest and most extremist voices, who had nothing to lose from international sanctions, prevailed.

To me, this is the most important moment of Barack's presidency.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I think Race relations have deteriorated largely because of the Internet. As we've discussed in the GPW thread there's been a lot of screwed up stuff happening to blacks that we're just now realizing is a daily occurrence.

Now add to that a slightly more mainstream black political voice, that powder keg's gonna go off.

Don't forget how many racists felt powerless when Obama got elected. Nothing says cornered animal quite like a gun enthusiast that wants his country back. The extremist right wing has been increasingly active over the last decade (because it knows it's dying). That does not help race relations either.

As far as competence goes. It's a mixed bag. Show me a "competent" president. I will show you a dozen bone head moves he made that made this country worse. So you have to grade on a curve. The Iran nuclear agreement was no simple task.

The fact that Obama managed to strike a decent deal (that none of his predecessors could have pulled off) to lift sanctions, in a multinational agreement, and has the enormous balls to defy Israel. Improves him a lot in my eyes.

It's been a long time since we have seen the African American community burning down buildings and looting to such extreme lengths in protest. I don't think officers are killing black people at any sort of an increased rate. You would think an African American president would have more success at calming the African American as opposed to a white President but it seems like it is worse then ever.