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skidadl

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Nothing really compelling in that article at all. Lubbock is a slow paced,
West Texas town full of lots of charm and warmth. There are a bunch of really great places to
eat but maybe not a ton of top notch fine dining restaruants.

Culturally, it is limited I suppose but Tech make it a nice place. For those who don't know, that campus is top notch. It has been voted most beautiful a few times up there with Stanford. That may shock some but the archetutcture is pretty dang good.

It is a pretty stupid article that is pretty much click bait. That's about what the article was originally written for.
 

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Nothing really compelling in that article at all. Lubbock is a slow paced,
West Texas town full of lots of charm and warmth. There are a bunch of really great places to
eat but maybe not a ton of top notch fine dining restaruants.

Culturally, it is limited I suppose but Tech make it a nice place. For those who don't know, that campus is top notch. It has been voted most beautiful a few times up there with Stanford. That may shock some but the archetutcture is pretty dang good.

It is a pretty stupid article that is pretty much click bait. That's about what the article was originally written for.
I like Lubbock, a little, but it takes a weird person to want to live there and it's impossible to make a living in West Texas unless you happen to be an oil executive.
 

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I like Lubbock, a little, but it takes a weird person to want to live there and it's impossible to make a living in West Texas unless you happen to be an oil executive.
Lubbock has a great, stable economy.

I'd love to live there.
 

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I think the word "boring" is pretty relative. I like Lubbock, a lot. Especially Tech. Sure, it's slow-paced and people are overly friendly (not a bad thing) but the city has everything I could really want. Now, when I retire, most likely I move, but it isn't because of Lubbock, it's because I love to fish and, well, there isn't great fishing around Lubbock. Some, but not a lot, and he one big lake is normally packed with jet skis and people playing around on boats.
 

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I like Lubbock, a little, but it takes a weird person to want to live there and it's impossible to make a living in West Texas unless you happen to be an oil executive.
I guess I'm weird, then. And, there isn't a ton of oil stuff in Lubbock. You have to go south to Midland/Odessa to really get into the oil.
 

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Nothing really compelling in that article at all. Lubbock is a slow paced,
West Texas town full of lots of charm and warmth. There are a bunch of really great places to
eat but maybe not a ton of top notch fine dining restaruants.

Culturally, it is limited I suppose but Tech make it a nice place. For those who don't know, that campus is top notch. It has been voted most beautiful a few times up there with Stanford. That may shock some but the archetutcture is pretty dang good.

It is a pretty stupid article that is pretty much click bait. That's about what the article was originally written for.
That's the one thing that a lot of people are shocked about all the time. Tech is gorgeous. Not what you would expect to see in Lubbock, TX. I have colleagues in all the time for site visits and it never fails that they are blown away by how beautiful our campus is.
 

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I like Lubbock, a little, but it takes a weird person to want to live there and it's impossible to make a living in West Texas unless you happen to be an oil executive.
The cotton industry used to be king there.
 

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Don't forget some of the hottest women on the planet.
That's basically the entire state, but Lubbock does have an unusually high number of insanely hot women relative to its population.
 

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Baylor DE Sam Ukwuachu found guilty of sexual assault

I wonder if this story will gain any steam. I saw a lot of notable journalists posting about it on Twitter yesterday before the verdict came out.

I can't believe they were actually going to let this guy play this year. Especially after all the stuff that went on in the NFL last year.

Baylor will probably take a small PR hit then the media will move on to something else.
 

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Baylor DE Sam Ukwuachu found guilty of sexual assault

I wonder if this story will gain any steam. I saw a lot of notable journalists posting about it on Twitter yesterday before the verdict came out.

I can't believe they were actually going to let this guy play this year. Especially after all the stuff that went on in the NFL last year.

Baylor will probably take a small PR hit then the media will move on to something else.
Baylor has been skating over the edge for a while now. Win-at-all-cost has gotta them into some dirty, dark places. I am a huge fan of Briles but he has gone too far on many occasions.
 

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http://deadspin.com/the-baylor-football-sexual-assault-trial-you-havent-hea-1723776958

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The Baylor Football Sexual Assault Trial You Haven't Heard About

On Oct. 20, 2013, at 3:09 p.m., the call came to Waco police from Baylor Scott & White hospital saying a woman had been sexually assaulted earlier in the morning. Police began their investigation, and the woman identified the attacker as someone she knew, incoming football player Sam Ukwuachu, a Pearland, Texas, product who had transferred to Baylor after being dismissed months earlier from Boise State. But the many questions that seem like natural follow-ups—what did the woman say happened, what were the findings of the investigation, why did police not bring charges but a grand jury hand down an indictment—remain a mystery, even as Ukwuachu’s trial gets underway.

Ukwuachu’s sexual assault trial began with jury selection in a Texas courtroom this afternoon. But what’s hard to ignore about the defensive end’s case is how little anyone knows about it. There are no publicly available details or accounts of how the night in question unfolded. There is no timeline of how the police handled it, or how the university responded, or any discussion of Baylor’s own investigation. Outside of the cold, statutory language of the charges—two counts of sexual assault— there isn’t any information on what Ukwuachu stands accused of doing. Until a Waco Tribune-Herald article published earlier this month, no one even knew that Ukwuachu was in trouble with the law. All we had was defensive coordinator Phil Bennett’s explanation last season that Ukwuachu has “some issues right now and won’t practice until we get them straightened out.”

So how does an FBS school lose a player to sexual assault charges and keep the entire thing under wraps? In Baylor’s case, keeping the situation quiet seems to have been pretty easy—just don’t mention it. And local authorities gave them some help along the way, releasing limited information and even getting a gag order from a judge.

Ukwuachu’s college career began with Boise State, where he was an All-American as a freshman in 2012 and was dismissed in May of 2013. According to the Idaho Press-Tribune, the dismissal was for a violation of team rules. No other details were given by coach Chris Petersen. Reporters had noticed Ukwuachu missing from the sidelines of the April spring game in April, shortly before his dismissal, and Petersen had told them, “He’s got some personal things he’s taking care of.” But Peterson also said Ukwuachu would be back, adding “Yeah, he’s just handling some personal stuff.” Ukwuachu did return for Boise State’s Junior Day; his dismissal was announced days later.*

A few weeks after his dismissal, Ukwuachu transferred to Baylor and talked to the Waco newspaper about the move.

“It was a personal issue that I don’t want to go in depth with,” Ukwuachu said. “But it wasn’t a big issue. A minor problem occurred and the coaches decided I needed to get a fresh start with somebody else.”
He never played a down.

Ukwuachu sat out the 2013 season because of the transfer, and rehabbed from pectoral surgery. But according to local reports, he was expected to play in 2014. Then August 2014 came and Ukwuachu wasn’t at practice or on the fall camp roster. By then, Ukwuachu had been indicted by a McLennan County grand jury, but reporters weren’t told about that. Instead, the culprit was “some issues” that needed to be “straightened out.” There were no reports that gave any more details about if he was eligible or not and why.

Just two months ago, nearly a full year after Ukwuachu had been indicted, Bennett said the DE “is a guy we’re expecting back.”

“We expect him to be eligible in July,” Bennett said, “that gives us probably five or six guys we can play at end.”

Here’s all I could learn about the case before the trial. It happened at Ukwuachu’s home, an apartment in south Waco, which the woman went to willingly, police spokesman Sgt. Patrick Swanton told me. After getting the call from the hospital, Waco police detectives took a report and investigated, Swanton said, but eventually decided there wasn’t enough evidence to make an arrest. They suspended the case and turned it over to the district attorney’s office for evaluation in about mid-March. That’s the end of the information Waco PD provided. They would not give any more details of the case, like what the woman said happened that night. Swanton would not say why specifically officers felt they couldn’t make an arrest—was it due to a lack of evidence or a lack of cooperation?—or describe any of the roadblocks they hit during the investigation.

I asked for copies of any incident reports that police might have taken, and Swanton told me Wednesday my request would be forwarded to the records department. Since then, nobody from the records department has called or emailed me back. I asked Swanton today if there was anyone else outside the records person I had been sent to who could help me with this request. He said no.

Despite the police’s decision not to make an arrest, prosecutors brought the case before a grand jury. On June 25, 2014, the grand jury brought an indictment against Ukwuachu for two counts of sexual assault. The true bill brought by the grand jury still doesn’t give any details about what happened. That happens with true bills: the one that indicted Aaron Hernandez for Odin Lloyd’s murder was equally paltry. But in Hernandez’s case, prosecutors also spoke to the press afterward, providing information about their evidence and what they believed happened that night. In the Ukwuachu case, there appears to have been zero notice given to the media.

The Baylor Football Sexual Assault Trial You Haven't Heard About

The Baylor Football Sexual Assault Trial You Haven't Heard About

So why did prosecutors choose to bring the case before a grand jury? Was it to avoid the messy local politics of charging a football player? Or to take advantage of a grand jury’s somewhat-secretive nature? I don’t know, and they can’t tell me. On Aug. 7, two days after the Tribune-Herald article first exposing the existence of the case, a judge granted a gag order on all the prosecutors and defense lawyers involved.

Here’s the gag order, which says the motion was “presented jointly” by a prosecutor on the case as well as Ukwuachu’s defense lawyer.

The Baylor Football Sexual Assault Trial You Haven't Heard About

I asked the district clerk’s office for a copy of documentation preceding this one explaining the request for a gag order. She told me there was no other motion or document in the file, just the gag order itself. What about Baylor, the private, Christian university whose motto is “for Church, for Texas” and where Ukwuachu remains a student? Baylor, it seems, has placed a gag order on itself.

I reached out to Baylor athletics communications; they deferred me to the university’s main communications department. I asked to speak to someone about what happened with Ukwuachu and how the university handled it. I got a response from Lori W. Fogleman, the assistant vice president for media communications, saying that Ukwuachu had graduated in May 2015 and subsequently enrolled in post-baccalaureate study.

Fogleman added that: “Without making reference to the specifics of your request, we can tell you that any student who is reported to have violated university policy will be subject to the university’s student disciplinary process.” That’s it. Apparently, the university’s general counsel advised that “according to FERPA guidelines, we are very limited in what we can say about any individual student.”

This flies in the face of the reams upon reams of (almost exclusively positive) information universities release on a daily basis about their athletes. These are enabled in part by a loophole in FERPA called directory information, which according to Baylor’s own website includes “past and present participation in officially recognized sports and activities.” I wrote back to Fogleman asking why the university never disclosed the reason Ukwuachu wasn’t playing last season. I added that “as this information about Mr. Ukwuachu is in regards to his participation in officially recognized sports and activities, I believe the university can be able to and should address these questions.”

Fogleman wrote back: “At the direction of counsel and based on privacy law, we have said all we can say.”

Ukwuachu’s lawyer, before the gag order, told the Waco Tribune-Herald that his client had been cleared by Baylor and was looking forward to the trial to clear his name. Nobody from the McLennan County District Attorney’s Office was quoted in the article.

Here is what can be gleaned from the full court file, according to the Tribune-Herald. It’s the closest thing available to a preview of what might be presented at trial, including new details about Ukwuachu’s “personal issue” at Boise State.

Prosecutors Hilary Laborde and Robert Moody have issued subpoenas for Ukwuachu’s records from Boise State and for the testimonies of a Boise, Idaho, police officer; an assistant athletic director; Ukwuachu’s former roommate; and a woman with whom he reportedly had an abusive relationship.

Records from Boise State filed in the case show that Ukwuachu, who reportedly was drinking and using drugs, and the woman were involved in a dispute. Ukwuachu broke a window and cut his arm, requiring medical treatment and prompting a Boise police investigation.

It is unclear from the records if that incident triggered Ukwuachu’s dismissal from the Boise State team, where he started the final 12 games as a freshman and had 35 tackles, including 16 solo tackles, and 4.5 sacks as a defensive end.
Idaho court records show just one set of criminal charges brought against Ukwuachu: In 2010, he was charged with misdemeanor possession of alcohol while underage. The case was dismissed.

Two days after the case became public, the same day as that the gag order was issued, coach Art Briles praised how the university handled the whole thing.

“That’s been an ongoing situation for I don’t know, a year and a half probably and we’ve been real sensitive to the process,” Briles told the Tribune-Herald. “We’ve sat back and waited for it all to take shape and see what the outcome is. So I like the way we’ve handled it as a university, an athletic department and a football program.”

The article didn’t elaborate on what Briles meant by “the way we’ve handled it.” Was he referring to any action taken by Baylor? Decisions made by his team? Or did he mean the utter dearth of information they’ve been able to maintain? His program brought in a recruit, who had been dismissed from his prior team under mysterious circumstances, and within months that player was accused of and indicted for sexual assault. On the surface, that sounds like the kind of bad news most programs dread, but Baylor has managed to keep it all out of the press until the last minute while touting its completely unknown actions as positives.

The justice system will decide if Ukwuachu is guilty or not. But no matter the outcome of the case, Ukwuachu’s case has been a win for Baylor football. This is college football, after all, a government-subsidized minor league system fueled by unpaid labor, empowered by zealous boosters, and carried on the backs of mostly unattainable dreams. It’s a product, and like any sales campaign, it’s only the optics that matter.
 

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Baylor has been skating over the edge for a while now. Win-at-all-cost has gotta them into some dirty, dark places. I am a huge fan of Briles but he has gone too far on many occasions.
I guess the biggest thing for me is that I look at Baylor differently than most of the other big football schools. If a school like Oklahoma, Ohio St, and Florida were involved with something like this, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

But because Baylor is a Baptist school I've always thought of Baylor like Notre Dame....where Christian morals are held in higher regard than most other universities.

IMO, it is a bit more shocking than normal when a school like Baylor puts together what sounds like a half-ass, in-house investigation all to get a sexual predatory on the football field.

And like you, I'm a huge Art Briles fan. I love his story and how have overcame personal tragedy. But this is certainly a bad look for him and the school.
 

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Briles really looks bad when you consider this statement pulled from Pat Forde's Yahoo! article :

When Washington coach Chris Petersen issued a statement to ESPN Friday afternoon saying that he personally informed Briles about the reason for defensive end Sam Ukwuachu's dismissal from Boise State (where Peterson used to coach) in 2013, it put Briles' credibility on the front burner. Coaches don't always do what Petersen did. Good for him for speaking up – and bad for Briles.

"After Sam Ukwuachu was dismissed from the Boise State football program and expressed an interest in transferring to Baylor, I initiated a call with coach Art Briles," Petersen, who left Boise State for Washington after the 2013 season, said in the statement. "In that conversation, I thoroughly apprised Coach Briles of the circumstances surrounding Sam's disciplinary record and dismissal."

That came after Briles said this when asked Friday morning if Boise State told Baylor the unsettling details about Ukwuachu's problems: "No. No. That's not true. Lord, no. No, there's no truth. Find out who informed us and talk to them, please."
That's damning.
 

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Yep, there is no easy way to recover from this for them. They are going to have to just take the black eye and move forward.
If Petersen did call Briles personally it's very easy to prove.....just have Petersen provide phone records as proof that a phone call between the two took place around the time of Ukwuachu's transfer.

That should be all the proof you need to see who's telling the truth.

Unless of course Briles decides to claim Petersen contacted him out of the blue to swap recipes or some some other nonsense.....and Ukwuachu never came up. But if records show that a phone call was made and the length of the call shows that a conversation likely took place, I doubt Briles would get the benefit of the doubt regarding the nature of the call.
 
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