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This is the second indication we have seen of Kelly having racist tendencies. That's going to make it really difficult to lead a team to anything of importance in this league.
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Third. Tra Thomas hinted towards it several months ago.
Fourth if you count Screamin' A.
It's hard to just blow off at this point.
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It's going to be a lot of fun to watch if that dumpster fire continues to burn after the season starts.
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Exactly how I feel. There definitely seems to be a disconnect at the very least.
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Chip Kelly: I don’t know why Brandon Boykin would say that
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 2, 2015, 11:33 AM EDT
Eagles coach Chip Kelly sounds shocked that Brandon Boykin, who was traded from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh yesterday, is suggesting racial motivations in the decision to trade him.
“I don’t know. In talking to him last night I think he was stunned, he was disappointed. He really liked it here,” Kelly said.
Kelly said that when he informed Boykin he had been traded, Boykin took it like a pro and didn’t express any hard feelings.
“When he left here last night he shook my hand and gave me a hug, didn’t say anything,” he said. “I like Brandon. I just don’t know. I really don’t know.”
Kelly said the Steelers, who gave up a 2016 draft pick for Boykin, have been calling the Eagles for months about acquiring him in a trade. The Steelers recently upped their offer to either a fourth-round pick or a fifth-round pick, depending on Boykin’s playing time, and that was the offer the Eagles accepted.
“They actively pursued him. They wanted to trade for him at the draft and we turned it down,” Kelly said.
Kelly also said he would have liked to keep Boykin, but the Eagles think they have more good cornerbacks than they’ll be able to keep on the 53-player roster. So if they can get a draft pick for one of those cornerbacks, they’re going to do it.
“It more speaks to what our depth was at the position,” Kelly said. “We’re going to have to make some tough decisions at corner and we’re not going to be able to keep them all.”
Despite Boykin’s comments, Kelly said he still likes Boykin.
“I’ve always been a Brandon Boykin fan. I think he did an unbelievable job in the two and a half years I was with him and I wish him nothing but success,” Kelly said.
The feeling does not appear to be mutual.
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 2, 2015, 11:33 AM EDT
Eagles coach Chip Kelly sounds shocked that Brandon Boykin, who was traded from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh yesterday, is suggesting racial motivations in the decision to trade him.
“I don’t know. In talking to him last night I think he was stunned, he was disappointed. He really liked it here,” Kelly said.
Kelly said that when he informed Boykin he had been traded, Boykin took it like a pro and didn’t express any hard feelings.
“When he left here last night he shook my hand and gave me a hug, didn’t say anything,” he said. “I like Brandon. I just don’t know. I really don’t know.”
Kelly said the Steelers, who gave up a 2016 draft pick for Boykin, have been calling the Eagles for months about acquiring him in a trade. The Steelers recently upped their offer to either a fourth-round pick or a fifth-round pick, depending on Boykin’s playing time, and that was the offer the Eagles accepted.
“They actively pursued him. They wanted to trade for him at the draft and we turned it down,” Kelly said.
Kelly also said he would have liked to keep Boykin, but the Eagles think they have more good cornerbacks than they’ll be able to keep on the 53-player roster. So if they can get a draft pick for one of those cornerbacks, they’re going to do it.
“It more speaks to what our depth was at the position,” Kelly said. “We’re going to have to make some tough decisions at corner and we’re not going to be able to keep them all.”
Despite Boykin’s comments, Kelly said he still likes Boykin.
“I’ve always been a Brandon Boykin fan. I think he did an unbelievable job in the two and a half years I was with him and I wish him nothing but success,” Kelly said.
The feeling does not appear to be mutual.
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He was on our radar last year in free agency and would be an instant upgrade over Nick Hayden. Shouldn't be expensive either.
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Mark Sanchez says talk of Chip Kelly being racist is “getting old”
Posted by Mike Florio on August 2, 2015, 2:32 PM EDT
The pattern has become predictable. Players who, for whatever reason, don’t fit within the Chip Kelly system point to something other than their failure to fit within the Chip Kelly system when dismissed from it.
It’s easy for some, and a little lazy, to suggest that Kelly makes decisions based in whole or in part on race. But that’s what cornerback Brandon Boykin did after being traded to the Steelers. While Boykin stopped short of echoing the kind of inflammatory remarks previously made by former Eagles running back LeSean McCoy, Boykin told Derrick Gunn of CSN Philly that Kelly is “uncomfortable around grown men of our culture.”
Quarterback Mark Sanchez has sounded off in response to the suggestion that Kelly has any sort of racial bias.
“That’s nuts,” Sanchez said, via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post. “[During stretching today], guys were like, ‘Sanchez, ain’t you Mexican? And Bradford, aren’t you Native-American? And Kiko [Alonso] is Colombian. We’ve got black guys, white guys, Polynesian guys. C’mon, that’s crazy. It’s not even worth talking about. Stop asking the players about it. It’s getting old.”
It may be getting old, but it becomes news whenever a newly old Eagles player dusts off that narrative.
The real narrative is that Chip Kelly is committed to putting together the best team he can, without special treatment for players with big names or big contracts. Everyone is replaceable, regardless of what he has done. And if anyone doesn’t like that, he’ll soon be gone.
Actually, Kelly’s approach gives players a convenient path out of Philly. By not buying in, privately or publicly, Kelly eventually will cut a guy loose, regardless of the precedent it sets. A decade ago, that mindset would have saved the Eagles plenty of stress and strain during an pay-me-trade-me-or-cut-me extended showdown with receiver Terrell Owens.
Kelly ultimately wants guys who want to be there, and who want to do things the way he wants them to be done. While that mentality won’t guarantee a guy special treatment, either, it gives every player a fair chance to make the team and to get onto the field.
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Easy for Sanchez to say, he's not black.
But all in all, this is just getting polarized to the point of silliness.
I don't think Kelly is "racist" towards black people. If he was he'd have an effing death wish in his profession.
I do believe he has a personality type he prefers.
And if that clashes with what some believe is being "a man", well, that is where the disconnect is.
I think we can safely say Murray is more "white" than McCoy, but that is not what it is about. It is about personality. Not skin color.
He's not waltzing around in sheets and lighting a cross.
But like everything else these days, it is either/or, because nobody wants to bother to think things out intellectually.
It is far better to just judge and choose your side. Requires less thought.
Posted by Mike Florio on August 2, 2015, 2:32 PM EDT
The pattern has become predictable. Players who, for whatever reason, don’t fit within the Chip Kelly system point to something other than their failure to fit within the Chip Kelly system when dismissed from it.
It’s easy for some, and a little lazy, to suggest that Kelly makes decisions based in whole or in part on race. But that’s what cornerback Brandon Boykin did after being traded to the Steelers. While Boykin stopped short of echoing the kind of inflammatory remarks previously made by former Eagles running back LeSean McCoy, Boykin told Derrick Gunn of CSN Philly that Kelly is “uncomfortable around grown men of our culture.”
Quarterback Mark Sanchez has sounded off in response to the suggestion that Kelly has any sort of racial bias.
“That’s nuts,” Sanchez said, via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post. “[During stretching today], guys were like, ‘Sanchez, ain’t you Mexican? And Bradford, aren’t you Native-American? And Kiko [Alonso] is Colombian. We’ve got black guys, white guys, Polynesian guys. C’mon, that’s crazy. It’s not even worth talking about. Stop asking the players about it. It’s getting old.”
It may be getting old, but it becomes news whenever a newly old Eagles player dusts off that narrative.
The real narrative is that Chip Kelly is committed to putting together the best team he can, without special treatment for players with big names or big contracts. Everyone is replaceable, regardless of what he has done. And if anyone doesn’t like that, he’ll soon be gone.
Actually, Kelly’s approach gives players a convenient path out of Philly. By not buying in, privately or publicly, Kelly eventually will cut a guy loose, regardless of the precedent it sets. A decade ago, that mindset would have saved the Eagles plenty of stress and strain during an pay-me-trade-me-or-cut-me extended showdown with receiver Terrell Owens.
Kelly ultimately wants guys who want to be there, and who want to do things the way he wants them to be done. While that mentality won’t guarantee a guy special treatment, either, it gives every player a fair chance to make the team and to get onto the field.
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Easy for Sanchez to say, he's not black.
But all in all, this is just getting polarized to the point of silliness.
I don't think Kelly is "racist" towards black people. If he was he'd have an effing death wish in his profession.
I do believe he has a personality type he prefers.
And if that clashes with what some believe is being "a man", well, that is where the disconnect is.
I think we can safely say Murray is more "white" than McCoy, but that is not what it is about. It is about personality. Not skin color.
He's not waltzing around in sheets and lighting a cross.
But like everything else these days, it is either/or, because nobody wants to bother to think things out intellectually.
It is far better to just judge and choose your side. Requires less thought.
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Boykin clarified his comments:
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This seems like such an annual thing with him. Talented runner but can't be relied on.
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On Kelly, it seems to me he's simply getting rid of players with questionable attitudes who don't buy in to his program, something I thought most people applauded.
Of course race has nothing to do with it -- that's absurd. Sounds more like sour grapes from the players to me. I doubt Belichick buddies up with or "relates to" his players off the field.
Of course race has nothing to do with it -- that's absurd. Sounds more like sour grapes from the players to me. I doubt Belichick buddies up with or "relates to" his players off the field.
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Sounds like he prefers players of [this] culture.