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Mailbag: Randle Getting Benefit of Doubt? Jones vs. Claiborne for 3rd CB?
Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:33 AM CDT
Marcus Jones
Memphis, TN
With Joseph Randle's measurable (only seven pounds lighter than Murray), his college production and the flashes he showed us last year with limited reps, why don't people think he can be a capable starter in this system?
Nick: I don’t think all “people” think that way. The guys in charge her seem to think he can, and that’s why when practice starts Thursday you’ll see him running with the first-team. Your question about his overall perception from fans is valid. It comes down to trust. And let’s be honest, before Murray ripped off 1,800 yards last year, he had his share of doubters, too. It’s one of those cases that, “people don’t think you can do it … until you do it.” Randle will get the chance to show everyone what he can do in the next few weeks.
Rob: There’s probably a couple reasons Randle has doubters, at least outside the organization. Following a couple of off-the-field matters, even he admitted in OTAs that he has to prove to the team he can be reliable player. You mentioned the second reason: Randle just hasn’t played much. He averaged three carries a game last year. How does he handle 18-20 touches a game? Can he stay consistent, durable, and be a complete back who can block and catch? Just because he hasn’t done it doesn’t mean he can’t. If he wins the job, the Cowboys will have to do a bit of projecting.
Robert Frankele
Hampton, VA
If Morris Claiborne is healthy to start camp, do you think Byron Jones beats him out for the third corner spot or will his battle be with JJ Wilcox?
Nick: Two good questions here. Not to avoid them, but this is seriously why we come to camp – to figure out such things. Personally, I think Byron Jones will end up playing safety, but maybe not right away. Claiborne’s health should be his only concern. Competing with anyone is the last thing he needs to worry about. I consider Mo as a straight-up bonus. If he’s good enough to play and contribute, great. If not, that’s sort of what the Cowboys are used to. Jones will likely be that nickel corner, regardless if his true position is corner or safety.
Rob: I think you have to look at it like this: Can Byron Jones show he’s one of the five best defensive backs on the roster? If he is, it’s quite possible the Cowboys will find a place for him at cornerback or safety. In the offseason he showed he could handle learning two positions.
Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:33 AM CDT
Memphis, TN
With Joseph Randle's measurable (only seven pounds lighter than Murray), his college production and the flashes he showed us last year with limited reps, why don't people think he can be a capable starter in this system?
Nick: I don’t think all “people” think that way. The guys in charge her seem to think he can, and that’s why when practice starts Thursday you’ll see him running with the first-team. Your question about his overall perception from fans is valid. It comes down to trust. And let’s be honest, before Murray ripped off 1,800 yards last year, he had his share of doubters, too. It’s one of those cases that, “people don’t think you can do it … until you do it.” Randle will get the chance to show everyone what he can do in the next few weeks.
Rob: There’s probably a couple reasons Randle has doubters, at least outside the organization. Following a couple of off-the-field matters, even he admitted in OTAs that he has to prove to the team he can be reliable player. You mentioned the second reason: Randle just hasn’t played much. He averaged three carries a game last year. How does he handle 18-20 touches a game? Can he stay consistent, durable, and be a complete back who can block and catch? Just because he hasn’t done it doesn’t mean he can’t. If he wins the job, the Cowboys will have to do a bit of projecting.
Hampton, VA
If Morris Claiborne is healthy to start camp, do you think Byron Jones beats him out for the third corner spot or will his battle be with JJ Wilcox?
Nick: Two good questions here. Not to avoid them, but this is seriously why we come to camp – to figure out such things. Personally, I think Byron Jones will end up playing safety, but maybe not right away. Claiborne’s health should be his only concern. Competing with anyone is the last thing he needs to worry about. I consider Mo as a straight-up bonus. If he’s good enough to play and contribute, great. If not, that’s sort of what the Cowboys are used to. Jones will likely be that nickel corner, regardless if his true position is corner or safety.
Rob: I think you have to look at it like this: Can Byron Jones show he’s one of the five best defensive backs on the roster? If he is, it’s quite possible the Cowboys will find a place for him at cornerback or safety. In the offseason he showed he could handle learning two positions.
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Looks like Lee has a lot of competition as the most breakable judging from the PUP list.Is Sean Lee hurt yet?
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Report: Cowboys place LB Keith Rivers on reserve/retired list
The Dallas Cowboys have placed linebacker Keith Rivers on the reserve/retired list, per ESPN's Todd Archer.
The Cowboys still retain Rivers' rights if he chooses to return to action. The Cowboys signed Rivers to a one-year, $825K deal at start of the offseason. Rivers was expected to compete for the backup outside linebacker spot.
Moving forward, the Cowboys are two less linebackers now with ILB Rolando McClain on the preseason active/PUP list. They have made several moves at the linebacker position this offseason with the additions of Andrew Gachkar, Jasper Brinkley, and Justin Jackson. Anthony Hitchens should solidify the SAM position with Kyle Wilber also competing for the backup.
Placing Rivers on the reserve/retired list opens up a roster spot which the Cowboys are expected to fill.
The Dallas Cowboys have placed linebacker Keith Rivers on the reserve/retired list, per ESPN's Todd Archer.
The Cowboys still retain Rivers' rights if he chooses to return to action. The Cowboys signed Rivers to a one-year, $825K deal at start of the offseason. Rivers was expected to compete for the backup outside linebacker spot.
Moving forward, the Cowboys are two less linebackers now with ILB Rolando McClain on the preseason active/PUP list. They have made several moves at the linebacker position this offseason with the additions of Andrew Gachkar, Jasper Brinkley, and Justin Jackson. Anthony Hitchens should solidify the SAM position with Kyle Wilber also competing for the backup.
Placing Rivers on the reserve/retired list opens up a roster spot which the Cowboys are expected to fill.
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So McFadden starts camp on the PUP with a hamstring injury.
Our genius RB plan only needs Randle to get re-arrested for it to fall to complete shut.
All 3 guys they were counting on would all be unavailable for TC.
Yea, I'm sure ignoring the position isn't going to come back and bite is in the ass at all.
Our genius RB plan only needs Randle to get re-arrested for it to fall to complete shut.
All 3 guys they were counting on would all be unavailable for TC.
Yea, I'm sure ignoring the position isn't going to come back and bite is in the ass at all.
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So this is going to be the ongoing narrative.
The same could have been said going into camp last year Murray was injury prone as well.
Why must we always go to worst case scenario to prove a point.
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I'm hoping Hitchens works out at MLB. I would love to see Lee try a season at the Will spot.
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Yep. Since they wasted money on Williams they will now go to Ostrich mode.
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I'd feel a lot better about the team right now if we signed Ray Rice as an insurance policy, but I think the team feels like those guys will be there regardless so they might as well go forward looking at Dunbar and Randle to see how they handle blocking assignments.