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I'm more worried about staying committed to the run rather than the actual production of our running game. I'm confident that our OL can get 4.2ish YPC out of just about any RB going up against 7 man boxes, not an amazing number by any means but it's enough to maintain a balanced offense and keep drives on schedule. We just have to be willing to stick with the run for 25 or so carries per game in that case.

Then if teams want to drop 8 down into the box Romo will pick them apart the way he did the Eagles in Philly last year.

Part of me definitely yearns for an elite talent at RB before Romo is done though because that's the last piece to what could be a legendary offense.
They go hand in hand.

If the run is not productive, you better bet your ass that Garrett and Linehan bail on that shit with the quickness.
 

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They go hand in hand.

If the run is not productive, you better bet your ass that Garrett and Linehan bail on that shit with the quickness.
So we just forget that they never did this last year?

And this was going down big to the Rams early in the season.
 

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So we just forget that they never did this last year?

And this was going down big to the Rams early in the season.
They also had a reason to have faith in Murray to stick it out a little. He had glimpses of greatness before.

What the eff have Randle or McFadden done to merit that kind of faith? Very little.

I think they are very cautious about the pair of them and will abandon the run quick if it is not effective.
 

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They also had a reason to have faith in Murray to stick it out a little. He had glimpses of greatness before.

What the eff have Randle or McFadden done to merit that kind of faith? Very little.

I think they are very cautious about the pair of them and will abandon the run quick if it is not effective.
And that's my main concern.

A coach like Parcells would stick with the run if it was averaging under 4, let alone over 4, and I think that's all we really need out of Garrett and Linehan, that commitment. I just have no clue whether or not it will be there though.
 

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And that's my main concern.

A coach like Parcells would stick with the run if it was averaging under 4, let alone over 4, and I think that's all we really need out of Garrett and Linehan, that commitment. I just have no clue whether or not it will be there though.
Aside from a few odd seasons, neither Garrett or Linehan has ever shown a commitment to the run. They are more apt to have to be convinced before they show commitment.

Like some fickle bitch female that needs about five expensive dinner dates before putting out.
 

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They also had a reason to have faith in Murray to stick it out a little. He had glimpses of greatness before.

What the eff have Randle or McFadden done to merit that kind of faith? Very little.

I think they are very cautious about the pair of them and will abandon the run quick if it is not effective.
I see where you are coming from but that Rams game showed me a lot.

I don't see them ever going full Green Bay again which is what I would really be worried about.
 

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Aside from a few odd seasons, neither Garrett or Linehan has ever shown a commitment to the run. They are more apt to have to be convinced before they show commitment.

Like some fickle bitch female that needs about five expensive dinner dates before putting out.
Linehan has a track record of running the ball much more than Garrett especially when he has a good o-line.

Look at his stats in Minny and St Louis.
 

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Linehan has a track record of running the ball much more than Garrett especially when he has a good o-line.

Look at his stats in Minny and St Louis.
Still not consistent. He's far more apt to sling it.
 

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And that's my main concern.

A coach like Parcells would stick with the run if it was averaging under 4, let alone over 4, and I think that's all we really need out of Garrett and Linehan, that commitment. I just have no clue whether or not it will be there though.
Troy Hambrick 275 carries, 972 yards, 3.5 yards per carry. Now that is a commitment to the run.
 

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Parcells literally said amount of carries is more important than yards per carry. Not everyone believes that.

I agree with that sentiment, but I don't think that means that YPC is worthless. It can certainly mean the difference between 10 wins (2003) and 12 wins (2014). The difference between a team with a low ceiling and a team that is a real contender.
 

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His money is guaranteed, so yeah, we are keeping him just because.
Yep. Guarenteed money is essentially marrying the player to the organization. You can't divorce them without giving up the estate. I hate guaranteed contracts. Worst thing to happen to professional sports.
 

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I'm more worried about staying committed to the run rather than the actual production of our running game. I'm confident that our OL can get 4.2ish YPC out of just about any RB going up against 7 man boxes, not an amazing number by any means but it's enough to maintain a balanced offense and keep drives on schedule. We just have to be willing to stick with the run for 25 or so carries per game in that case.

Then if teams want to drop 8 down into the box Romo will pick them apart the way he did the Eagles in Philly last year.

Part of me definitely yearns for an elite talent at RB before Romo is done though because that's the last piece to what could be a legendary offense.
I didn't even think about this. We are going to go completely 2013 again and Romo is going to be running around for his life
 

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Parcells literally said amount of carries is more important than yards per carry. Not everyone believes that.

I agree with that sentiment, but I don't think that means that YPC is worthless. It can certainly mean the difference between 10 wins (2003) and 12 wins (2014). The difference between a team with a low ceiling and a team that is a real contender.
No but over the course of a game is their a massive difference between 4.2 ypc and 4.8? Probably not really all that much.
 

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Parcells literally said amount of carries is more important than yards per carry. Not everyone believes that.

I agree with that sentiment, but I don't think that means that YPC is worthless. It can certainly mean the difference between 10 wins (2003) and 12 wins (2014). The difference between a team with a low ceiling and a team that is a real contender.
That '03 team had an average OL and below average QB, too. Commitment to the run forces standard defensive coverage, and all it takes is one play to score vs. standard coverage as long as you remain patient.

This team has great potential as long as it remains committed to a heavy dose of running along with a more even distribution of both carries and receiving targets.

Every receiver on he Cowboys is dangerous in his own way, and Romo will drive defenses crazier the more he spreads the ball around. For that to happen he has to remain standing, hence the handoffs.
 

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No but over the course of a game is their a massive difference between 4.2 ypc and 4.8? Probably not really all that much.
More than half a yard on average every time you run the ball? Yes I think there's a very big difference.
 

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More than half a yard on average every time you run the ball? Yes I think there's a very big difference.
On a 20 carry game you're talking about the difference of 10 yards? That's the same as one less holding call a game. While meaningful, it's not exactly going to drastically change your overall offensive performance.
 

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On a 20 carry game you're talking about the difference of 10 yards? That's the same as one less holding call a game. While meaningful, it's not exactly going to drastically change your overall offensive performance.
that would be a horribly low number of carries.
 

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On a 20 carry game you're talking about the difference of 10 yards? That's the same as one less holding call a game. While meaningful, it's not exactly going to drastically change your overall offensive performance.
Over the course of 30 plus carries that's an extra 1st down or 2. It can be the difference between punting or keeping a potential scoring drive alive. It could be the difference between 3rd and 2 or a first. It's a difference that can cost you points.

It's not earth shattering but it's a big difference.
 

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It's like saying there's not that much difference between 4.2 and 3.6.

Uh, yeah there is.
 

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Over the course of 30 plus carries that's an extra 1st down or 2. It can be the difference between punting or keeping a potential scoring drive alive. It could be the difference between 3rd and 2 or a first. It's a difference that can cost you points.

It's not earth shattering but it's a big difference.
It's the difference of one good run a game. You're talking about an extra 15 yards (I was refering to your starting RB who shouldn't be running the ball 30 times a game but even at 30 carries it's 15 yards). It's one less dropped ball by a receiver a game. It's the difference between a kick return to the 35 instead of starting at the 20. It's a single personal foul call during a game. A punter has a much bigger impact on a game.

So yeah, even as a team as long as you still run the ball the same amount of times it's not a massive difference. The problem really comes when you abandon the run. Your yards come through the passing game for the most part. That's why your QB is throwing for 4000-5000 yards and averaging 6-7 yards per attempt (Or in Romo's case 8.52 ypa).
 
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