Iran nuclear deal framework announced

[NoDak]

Someone get Jiggy to tell him he doesn't have a grasp of things.

Not really sure what one retard has to do with the other, but... Ok.

 

[Cotton]

Yeah, more nonsense. I just stopped replying to him.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Not really sure what one retard has to do with the other, but... Ok.

Well let me splain it to you. A few posts up Jiggy felt he needed to tell me I didn't have a grasp of the US capabilities to take out the nukes in Iran without invading because they were situated in a way that made it so. I thought since you are the resident oily he should also weigh in on why you didn't have a grasp on that situation to be questioning Bipo's edict. Just thought you should join me.

 

[BipolarFuk]

So all the earthquakes in Oklahoma are just a coincidence? And fracking doesn't pollute the water? Give me a fucking break. And right now it is releasing high levels of Radon gas in Pennsylvania. The shit is bad news, but as usual, people are getting rich off of it so fuck it, right?

 

[Cotton]

So all the earthquakes in Oklahoma are just a coincidence? And fracking doesn't pollute the water? Give me a fucking break. And right now it is releasing high levels of Radon gas in Pennsylvania. The shit is bad news, but as usual, people are getting rich off of it so fuck it, right?

God, you say some stupid unsubstantiated shit.

 

[fortsbest]

I think you could accuse any person who's been complicit in our drone warfare and torture (so at least the last 2 presidents, and everyone in the CoC below them leading up to the torturers/drone pilots themselves) of war crimes. Clinton also bombed an aspirin factory.

So in your mind and Bipo's anyone charged with executing plans of attack using drones rather than planes and ground troops are war criminals. And in my mind, while waterboarding is above interrogation, it doesn't rise to the level of torture as say, knee-capping someone, pulling fingernails out, hanging them up for lengthy period, shocking them with battery chargers or the like, chopping off fingers etc or let's not forget beheadings or burning people alive.

 

[townsend]

So in your mind and Bipo's anyone charged with executing plans of attack using drones rather than planes and ground troops are war criminals. And in my mind, while waterboarding is above interrogation, it doesn't rise to the level of torture as say, knee-capping someone, pulling fingernails out, hanging them up for lengthy period, shocking them with battery chargers or the like, chopping off fingers etc or let's not forget beheadings or burning people alive.

Drones aren't the problems, it's what we've done with them. We're going into countries we're not at war with and targeting terrorists with absurd numbers of casualties as a result. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147

Waterboarding isn't all that happened. There was a lot of sexual abuse (weird shit like feeding oatmeal into prisoners assholes). Forcing detainees to stand on broken legs. And just murder of course.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/09/the-most-gruesome-moments-in-the-cia-torture-report.html

Worst of all, it was all very ineffective. All this shit was just so sick fucks could get their jollies. So yes, that's a god damned war crime.

 

[L.T. Fan]

So all the earthquakes in Oklahoma are just a coincidence? And fracking doesn't pollute the water? Give me a fucking break. And right now it is releasing high levels of Radon gas in Pennsylvania. The shit is bad news, but as usual, people are getting rich off of it so fuck it, right?

No it's no coincidence. There's a fault line in Oklahomo that has been there for centuries.

 

[townsend]

There's some seismic disturbances caused by fracking I think. But there isn't really any damage being done by them. I haven't seen any reputable sources that have reported that fracking is causing contamination of ground water. Obviously there are some cases where specific fracking operations break the rules and screw something up, but I would consider them isolated and not indicative of fracking as a whole.

 

[NoDak]

No it's no coincidence. There's a fault line in Oklahomo that has been there for centuries.

There is probably more fracing going on up here in the Bakken then anywhere else, but for some strange reason... Not one single earthquake. And unfortunately for idiots like Bipo and their agenda, there's nothing wrong with the drinking water, either. But I'll bet you anything that he's one of the morons that believes the water is flammable because of a youtube video posted by another dipshit.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Well let me splain it to you. A few posts up Jiggy felt he needed to tell me I didn't have a grasp of the US capabilities to take out the nukes in Iran without invading because they were situated in a way that made it so. I thought since you are the resident oily he should also weigh in on why you didn't have a grasp on that situation to be questioning Bipo's edict. Just thought you should join me.

Really Dude?

 

[L.T. Fan]

Really Dude?

Yes really. You said it so that's the way it is when you make judgemental statements. Mud that is slung might be returned.

 

[Clay_Allison]

I think if bombing Iran could destroy their facilities Israel would have done that already instead of resorting to cyber attacks.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Yes really. You said it so that's the way it is when you make judgemental statements. Mud that is slung might be returned.

I have no problem with "it" being returned just could not believe the massive reach you took to involve somebody else in our back and forth.


And the fact remains you are still wrong that we could end there nuclear program by bombing.

And even so have you thought of the repercussions that would happen after said bombing or do you think Iran will just roll over and take it along with there allies Russia and China?

 

[L.T. Fan]

Did you forget that i was in a dialogue with someone else when you offered your assessment of my response to them?

 

[L.T. Fan]

I have no problem with "it" being returned just could not believe the massive reach you took to involve somebody else in our back and forth.


And the fact remains you are still wrong that we could end there nuclear program by bombing.

And even so have you thought of the repercussions that would happen after said bombing or do you think Iran will just roll over and take it along with there allies Russia and China?

Never said we could end anything with bombing in fact I didn't divulge what it might be.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Never said we could end anything with bombing in fact I didn't divulge what it might be.

And here comes the famous LT backpedal.

So why in your mind are we bombing them then?

Just because?

 

[L.T. Fan]

And here comes the famous LT backpedal.

So why in your mind are we bombing them then?

Just because?

There is no back pedaling. I simply didnt offer any actual means and you made assumptions that lead you to say i didnt have a grasp of anything. You jumped the gun with a judgemental position based on an assumption. That is the mode that always gets us crosswise. I have always stated to you to not make statements about what you presume i said but in actuality i didn't say. Its realy that simple. When i actually state something you are free to disagree. Just don't mistate it and then pronounce it as invalid.

 

[Jiggyfly]

There is no back pedaling. I simply didnt offer any actual means and you made assumptions that lead you to say i didnt have a grasp of anything. You jumped the gun with a judgemental position based on an assumption. That is the mode that always gets us crosswise. I have always stated to you to not make statements about what you presume i said but in actuality i didn't say. Its realy that simple. When i actually state something you are free to disagree. Just don't mistate it and then pronounce it as invalid.

Did you or did you not say we could destroy there capabilities without invading?

If so please show your grasp of how this can be done.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Did you or did you not say we could destroy there capabilities without invading?

If so please show your grasp of how this can be done.

Yes but i didnt say how. So how can you evaluated a non statement?. That's what I am saying to you. Don't presume i have given a solution then say it displays a lack of grasping the situation. Just deal with what I say not what you presume. Maybe I will give you my thoughts and maybe i wont but you will have to wait for me to make a statement before you can pass judgement on it.