Romo: I Would Have Been Willing To Take A Pay Cut To Keep DeMarco

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Management may not have wanted to keep Murray but I am of the impression his rteam mates wanted him to stay.
Without question. Murray was the heartbeat of the offense last year.

But from the team's perspective I think it's tough to sign FA running backs because you are usually getting a lot of tread, and ironically the more you pay the greater that tread is.

I think the Cowboys were relieved, frankly, not to have to commit such a large portion of their cap to a player who's best seasons are past and whose position is absolutely loaded in the draft.

The NFL has to figure out a better way to compensate RB's and cultivate QBs. Those are two areas where the current system is broken.
 

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If you get Petersen and use a high round draft pick for another RB you could decimate you ability to shore up the defense.because chances are Petersen would require another draft pick for a trade. It makes no sense to spend those kind of resources for a vet and rookie RB. It's either or but not both.
If you had read my post, you would have seen that I said I'd send them a 7th hypothetically. How is that going to hurt the defense?
 

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Without question. Murray was the heartbeat of the offense last year.

But from the team's perspective I think it's tough to sign FA running backs because you are usually getting a lot of tread, and ironically the more you pay the greater that tread is.

I think the Cowboys were relieved, frankly, not to have to commit such a large portion of their cap to a player who's best seasons are past and whose position is absolutely loaded in the draft.

The NFL has to figure out a better way to compensate RB's and cultivate QBs. Those are two areas where the current system is broken.
Then you are saying management was relieved he is gone?
 

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If you had read my post, you would have seen that I said I'd send them a 7th hypothetically. How is that going to hurt the defense?
I read your post and my position is that if it takes two draft choices to move on the RB position then that is too much. Even a 7th rounder could be better utlized to trade up for a defensive move this round. Either drop the idea of having Petersen or forget a high round running back. I don't think this is the year to be adding that much to the RB position. Dallas has alread anted up for a vet who may or may not help the team.
 

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I read your post and my position is that if it takes two draft choices to move on the RB position then that is too much. Even a 7th rounder could be better utlized to trade up for a defensive move this round. Either drop the idea of having Petersen or forget a high round running back. I don't think this is the year to be adding that much to the RB position. Dallas has alread anted up for a vet who may or may not help the team.
When was the last time a 7th round pick even hypothetically changed a defense's ranking by even one spot?
 

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They are relieved they didn't have to sign him-- two different things.
?????????? Where does this come from. All I have heard is the organization would like to have had him back but couldn't match Philly's offer.
 

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I don't see how this restructuring isn't mostly for Hardy.
I'm sure it is. Despite early reports that his roster bonuses would count against next year's cap they actually count against this year's cap. They just don't count until they are earned. From the CBA: "Any roster bonus which is deemed not 'likely to be earned' based upon the player's performance during the prior year shall immediately be included in Team Salary when earned." So he doesn't immediately count against our cap but we do have to account for it. If he does end up with a long suspension then the money will be credited toward next year's cap
 

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?????????? Where does this come from. All I have heard is the organization would like to have had him back but couldn't match Philly's offer.
They could have matched. But would have been retarded to do so.
 

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They could have matched. But would have been retarded to do so.
Yep. They had cleared 8 million from Tyron and hadnt even gone to the bank of Romo yet. They hadnt signed Hardy yet so they had money at the time and even could have up to 16 million from Romo if they wanted to. They set an amount and didnt budge from it so I cant fault them at all.
 

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True but I think they regretted the price became an imprudent figure for them.
Definitely, though I think they felt even the number they offered Murray wasn't prudent. I think they felt safe making the offer knowing he would reject it.

I think more than ever the Cowboys are determined to pay for anticipated results and not past performances.
 

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Definitely, though I think they felt even the number they offered Murray wasn't prudent. I think they felt safe making the offer knowing he would reject it.

I think more than ever the Cowboys are determined to pay for anticipated results and not past performances.
That would presuppose that Murray is washed up and frankly I believe he has a lot more football in him. Certainly he has more tread than say Petersen. I just cannot be convinced that the Dallas organization wanted him away from the team. It was a matter of budgetary requirements in refereence to what they want to accomplish this season with personnel needs.
 

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That would presuppose that Murray is washed up and frankly I believe he has a lot more football in him. Certainly he has more tread than say Petersen. I just cannot be convinced that the Dallas organization wanted him away from the team. It was a matter of budgetary requirements in refereence to what they want to accomplish this season with personnel needs.
It's about bang for the buck. Dallas isn't going to get that from Murray. His best is behind him. Even if he rushes for 1400 yards this season (still a lot), how much better would that be than a top rookie plus McFadden? Would it even be better?

Meanwhile Murray is in a middle-loaded contract chewing up big bucks. It doesn't make sense, and neither does Peterson.
 

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It's about bang for the buck. Dallas isn't going to get that from Murray. His best is behind him. Even if he rushes for 1400 yards this season (still a lot), how much better would that be than a top rookie plus McFadden? Would it even be better?

Meanwhile Murray is in a middle-loaded contract chewing up big bucks. It doesn't make sense, and neither does Peterson.
So i guess you are of the position he is washed up? While it's true he likely will not duplicate his record setting performance of last season Philly seems to think he is good enough to pay for his serviced and accept a reduced performance and think that it will be good enough to pay him more than Dallas. I wouldn't dnt pay him.that much either but saying that doesnt mean that he cannot be the top performing back this season. No one can have a record year every season but they can still be at pro bowl levels for a while.
 

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So i guess you are of the position he is washed up? While it's true he likely will not duplicate his record setting performance of last season Philly seems to think he is good enough to pay for his serviced and accept a reduced performance and think that it will be good enough to pay him more than Dallas. I wouldn't dnt pay him.that much either but saying that doesnt mean that he cannot be the top performing back this season. No one can have a record year every season but they can still be at pro bowl levels for a while.
Not washed up, but unable to create enough of a difference than a blue-chip rookie likely would to justify his salary.
 

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Yea, I think this is true.

Given how firm they were in staying right at the number they had in mind, coupled with Werder's comments about how Jerry wanted to save some money should "an unusual situation to sign a HOF type talent present itself", and you get the impression that the Cowboys weren't really all that interested in bringing him back.

They sure didn't try very hard, at least.
That was the general vibe that I got during the entire process. They certainly weren't bending over backwards trying to make the deal work.

I think they looked at the deep RB pool in the draft, the possibility of acquiring AP from Minnesota, and the great young OL......and they pretty much said if you want to come back it's going to be on our terms.
 
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