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Cowboys more free to follow draft board now
March, 19, 2015

By Todd Archer | ESPNDallas.com

IRVING, Texas -- The Dallas Cowboys' main goal of the offseason was to improve their pass rush in 2015.

The signing of Greg Hardy should certainly do that even if he might miss some games with a possible suspension.

By signing Hardy, the Cowboys have covered one of their major draft needs, but it has not made those needs disappear. A draft isn't just about this year. It's about the next four years.

But what the signing of Hardy has done has allowed the Cowboys to put together a more pure draft board. Without the addition of Hardy, the Cowboys' need for a pass-rusher would have been through the roof and the natural inclination is to inflate a player's ability at a position of need.

This has been the Cowboys' philosophy the last few years. They use free agency to fill holes and follow their board -- mostly -- when it comes to the draft.

At No. 27 in the first round, the Cowboys likely would not have been in position to find an impactful pass-rusher and certainly not a pass-rusher the quality of Hardy. They can still go with a pass-rusher in the first round, especially since Hardy is signed only for 2015.

The addition of Darren McFadden falls in line with the Hardy signing, although the expectations for him are far less than the expectations for Hardy. In a running back heavy draft, the Cowboys could be in position to take the best runners available (Todd Gurley or Melvin Gordon) or the wave of runners that will go in the early rounds (Tevin Coleman, Jay Ajayi, T.J. Yeldon) that can form a solid combo with McFadden, Joseph Randle, Lance Dunbar and/or Ryan Williams.

The other spot of need is cornerback where Brandon Carr's status is up in the air because of a $12.7 million salary-cap figure. The Cowboys want to keep Carr, just not at his $8 million base salary. Based on the size of the contracts some corners have signed in free agency, the Cowboys would be wise to sit back on Carr's deal and wait for the money to dry up. That's how they dealt with right tackle Doug Free two years ago.

The Cowboys claimed Corey White off waivers from the New Orleans Saints and hope that getting him in a simpler system than what Rob Ryan used will allow his athletic ability to shine. But banking solely on White wouldn't be wise.

With the 27th pick, the Cowboys could see a corner like Wake Forest's Kevin Johnson available.

By signing Hardy, the Cowboys have put themselves in position to do something every team professes to want to do but sometimes just can't: take the best player.
 

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In no world is Kevin Johnson the 27th best player in this draft.
 

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Hardy was a round 6 pick for whatever reason.

You can find a player in any round if your personel dept is worth a fuck.
 

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Yeah we could definitely get a guy as talented as Greg Hardy in this draft. The problem is Greg Hardy didn't really hit his stride until his 3rd year in the NFL. It takes some time for pass rushers to develop in the NFL. I think it's because their strength out of college usually isn't up to par with other guys currently in the NFL.
 

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Yeah we could definitely get a guy as talented as Greg Hardy in this draft. The problem is Greg Hardy didn't really hit his stride until his 3rd year in the NFL. It takes some time for pass rushers to develop in the NFL. I think it's because their strength out of college usually isn't up to par with other guys currently in the NFL.
And for financial reasons they don't have access to the same range of steroids and illegal supplements in college as they do in the pros.
 

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And for financial reasons they don't have access to the same range of steroids and illegal supplements in college as they do in the pros.
You think guys at the football powerhouse universities are paying for their own steroids? Ok.
 

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College defensive linemen usually don't play with great technique, they rely on their athleticism or size. In the league you need athleticism, size and technique, and usually it takes 2-3 years for guys to really learn how to play with technique.
 

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You think guys at the football powerhouse universities are paying for their own steroids? Ok.
In college some star athletes get hooked up here and there, but the risk of getting fucked over is all on the supplier with almost no consequences for the "innocent" college athletes who can either transfer away or just graduate/drop out and become pros anyway.

So it's risky and unlikely for some unofficial alumni juice network to distribute to a large group of athletes at every one of 120 odd bowl-eligible colleges. There's like 90 football players on each team every year. Such complex networks would get fucked up before long creating death penalties for their colleges along the way.

A college player doesn't have to take steroids to keep his scholarship. He can rely on his natural ability and then roid up on his own to prepare for the draft. Merriman is a perfect example of this. He was just OK in college and then all of a sudden put on a freakshow display at the combine.

In the pros athletes either find access to steroids themselves and 100% take on the risk or get cut because they can't keep up. That's a simple formula. A percentage of 1500 people each year take the risk onto themselves and the NFL remains totally out of it with some half-assed random tests conducted.
 

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In no world is Kevin Johnson the 27th best player in this draft.
Absolutely not.

But there are a bunch of Cowboys fans who would eat that shit up.

If you are an idiot and you look at this team's "needs" then you go CB in the first.

I am pretty adverse to CBs in the first no matter what, but the idea of Johnson in the first sickens me because he's not special. He has some nice traits, but that is it. He screams second round to me.

If I am threatened with death to take a CB, I say eff it and take Peters. The guy I would like us to get on day two-three is Steven Nelson.
 

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Absolutely not.

But there are a bunch of Cowboys fans who would eat that shit up.

If you are an idiot and you look at this team's "needs" then you go CB in the first.

I am pretty adverse to CBs in the first no matter what, but the idea of Johnson in the first sickens me because he's not special. He has some nice traits, but that is it. He screams second round to me.

If I am threatened with death to take a CB, I say eff it and take Peters. The guy I would like us to get on day two-three is Steven Nelson.
There is only one corner I like in the first round of this draft and he will be long gone before we pick. Waynes has the size, the speed, and the production in a really good Michigan State defense. But he will be well gone before the Cowboys pick. At that point I'd rather wait until later in the draft. Guys in the second/third round will be just as talented as Kevin Johnson. Also I don't like the Rollins kid nearly as much as experts do.
 

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There is only one corner I like in the first round of this draft and he will be long gone before we pick. Waynes has the size, the speed, and the production in a really good Michigan State defense. But he will be well gone before the Cowboys pick. At that point I'd rather wait until later in the draft. Guys in the second/third round will be just as talented as Kevin Johnson. Also I don't like the Rollins kid nearly as much as experts do.
Rollins reminds me of Wilcox. Raw athlete but not ready.
 

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On Sirius XM the Seahawks claimed to have evaluated 18 true first round talents in this draft.

That means whoever we get at 27 will probably be just as good as someone drafted 10 slots later and nowhere near as good as the guy ten slots earlier.

If Dallas would be happy with any six backs in this draft, they can be reasonably certain one will be there in the 2nd.

But I see a big run on backs happening in the second round, so if Dallas has one or two in mind they may have to use 27 to get him. I don't see anyone wanting to trade, either.
 

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On Sirius XM the Seahawks claimed to have evaluated 18 true first round talents in this draft.

That means whoever we get at 27 will probably be just as good as someone drafted 10 slots later and nowhere near as good as the guy ten slots earlier.
Interesting logic, but just because they have 18 players rated as first rounders that doesn't mean all 18 are rated the same. No way the top 5 players will equivalent to players 13-18.
The same would be true for player 27 compared to a guy 10 slots later. Just because they may fall in the 2nd range it doesn't mean the top few guys in the range are equivalent to the bottom guys in the range.

I'd say it's safe to say that the margin of difference between 17 and 27 is the same margin that is between 27 and 37.
 

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Interesting logic, but just because they have 18 players rated as first rounders that doesn't mean all 18 are rated the same. No way the top 5 players will equivalent to players 13-18.
The same would be true for player 27 compared to a guy 10 slots later. Just because they may fall in the 2nd range it doesn't mean the top few guys in the range are equivalent to the bottom guys in the range.

I'd say it's safe to say that the margin of difference between 17 and 27 is the same margin that is between 27 and 37.
Even if the Cowboys only see 18 first round players, odds are those 18 won't look all that similar to the Seahawks 18.
 

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Even if the Cowboys only see 18 first round players, odds are those 18 won't look all that similar to the Seahawks 18.
That's probably true too. The point though is if there is a big difference between 17 and 27, then there is the same difference between 27 and 37.
 

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That's probably true too. The point though is if there is a big difference between 17 and 27, then there is the same difference between 27 and 37.
Totally agree. I also think it's stupid as hell that every year we hear about there only being 18 first rounders but I'll leave that discussion for another day.
 

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On Sirius XM the Seahawks claimed to have evaluated 18 true first round talents in this draft.

That means whoever we get at 27 will probably be just as good as someone drafted 10 slots later and nowhere near as good as the guy ten slots earlier.

If Dallas would be happy with any six backs in this draft, they can be reasonably certain one will be there in the 2nd.

But I see a big run on backs happening in the second round, so if Dallas has one or two in mind they may have to use 27 to get him. I don't see anyone wanting to trade, either.
I've been thinking for a few weeks now that trading back would be our best route if possible. Unless there is a guy you can't pass up such as Dupree, Brown, perhaps Goldman or Gurley, it seems trading down to around 35-40 would be for the best. Maybe we can still get Gordon at that spot, if not there is always Ajayi, a guy like Goldman could still be there, or Eric Kendricks, maybe a guy like Shaq Thompson, Odighizuwa or Preston Smith.

Basically, assuming there isn't a DL or RB there that the front office absolutely loves, we should just trade down considering the depth at RB.
 

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I am starting to get interested in the idea of going LB, we still need a starter at WL or SL and some insurance fo Lee.

I think McClain comes back but he cannot be counted on long range.

I know Kendricks is somebody that has a grade that high but who else should be considered?
 

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I think McClain comes back but he cannot be counted on long range.
Everything I am reading now is indicating McClain isn't coming back. Sucks, but looks like we are going to be forced to focus on LB early in the draft.
 

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Everything I am reading now is indicating McClain isn't coming back. Sucks, but looks like we are going to be forced to focus on LB early in the draft.
That's Fisher leading that bandwagon and he has had it in for McClain since training camp.

Anyway we have to start addressing it either way.
 
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