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Dez demonstrates way too much passion on the field for me to believe that he will just pack it in after getting a big contract. Michael Irvin had his off the field shit too but the passion and heart were always there. I really don't have a concern about Dez on a long term contract not going out and still playing at an elite level.

My bigger concern is alienating Dez in this whole contract process. He is a guy who has been screwed over a lot in life and I'm afraid if you try to leverage him too hard in this whole process that you might as well just ship him to another team. It's why I'd rather trade Dez then to try and get him to play under the franchise tag next year. Right or wrong I don't think Dez would trust the organization any longer.
He's either grown up and mature or he isn't. Grown up, mature NFL players have to understand the business side of the league.
 

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He's either grown up and mature or he isn't. Grown up, mature NFL players have to understand the business side of the league.
Yes and no. I would say the Dez is growing but not grown. It is not as easy as simply tell Dez that he needs to grow up and take or leave the contract. The dude has made great strides and beat the odds BIG TIME imo. This is a guy that needs people around him that he can trust. If he feels like you are screwing him you might lose him mentally and emotionally. If he feels like you are on his side he would probably commit murder to defend you. You can call it what you want the guy is going to be a work in progress for years to come. He was damaged goods when he got to Dallas and he is not going to just outgrow everything in a decade.
 

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Yes and no. I would say the Dez is growing but not grown. It is not as easy as simply tell Dez that he needs to grow up and take or leave the contract. The dude has made great strides and beat the odds BIG TIME imo. This is a guy that needs people around him that he can trust. If he feels like you are screwing him you might lose him mentally and emotionally. If he feels like you are on his side he would probably commit murder to defend you. You can call it what you want the guy is going to be a work in progress for years to come. He was damaged goods when he got to Dallas and he is not going to just outgrow everything in a decade.
He is being pretty immature if he doesn't understand that the team bent way over backwards to get him where he is today. On one hand the guy had to have it in him to clean up is act, on the other, the team gave him a support structure that was second to none to help him get his house in order. Right now it looks like he doesn't even want to get a deal done. His team is pouting with him instead of negotiating.

He could be Tyron Smith right now, sitting on a 100 million dollar deal. Instead he wants to be on social media and cry. That's his prerogative. He has a right to pout, but he could end up riding the franchise tag a couple of times and being in a contract year every year, knowing his market value will go down and he'll be allowed to walk as soon as his performance slips.
 

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He is being pretty immature if he doesn't understand that the team bent way over backwards to get him where he is today. On one hand the guy had to have it in him to clean up is act, on the other, the team gave him a support structure that was second to none to help him get his house in order. Right now it looks like he doesn't even want to get a deal done. His team is pouting with him instead of negotiating.

He could be Tyron Smith right now, sitting on a 100 million dollar deal. Instead he wants to be on social media and cry. That's his prerogative. He has a right to pout, but he could end up riding the franchise tag a couple of times and being in a contract year every year, knowing his market value will go down and he'll be allowed to walk as soon as his performance slips.
If he got Smith guaranteed money he would have probably signed by now.

The problem is he was not offered Smith type money and why is 100 million being used when everybody knows that's a unrealistic number?

And were is he doing all of this pouting I have read maybe 3 things from Dez concerning his contract all season.
 

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He is being pretty immature if he doesn't understand that the team bent way over backwards to get him where he is today. On one hand the guy had to have it in him to clean up is act, on the other, the team gave him a support structure that was second to none to help him get his house in order. Right now it looks like he doesn't even want to get a deal done. His team is pouting with him instead of negotiating.

He could be Tyron Smith right now, sitting on a 100 million dollar deal. Instead he wants to be on social media and cry. That's his prerogative. He has a right to pout, but he could end up riding the franchise tag a couple of times and being in a contract year every year, knowing his market value will go down and he'll be allowed to walk as soon as his performance slips.
What have they done to make him mature? I think Dez has bent over backwards to correct himself, and that's why he feels frustrated. BTW, outside of one tweet where he said he wished the team loved him as much as he loves them, I can't think of another example of him being immature in the last 3 years.
 

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He could be Tyron Smith right now, sitting on a 100 million dollar deal. Instead he wants to be on social media and cry. That's his prerogative. He has a right to pout, but he could end up riding the franchise tag a couple of times and being in a contract year every year, knowing his market value will go down and he'll be allowed to walk as soon as his performance slips.
You do realize his offer isn't even in the same ball park as Tyron Smith's right?
 

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What have they done to make him mature? I think Dez has bent over backwards to correct himself, and that's why he feels frustrated. BTW, outside of one tweet where he said he wished the team loved him as much as he loves them, I can't think of another example of him being immature in the last 3 years.
I'd say the Cowboys made out pretty well getting an elite WR for years on a cheap contract.

The thing people don't seem to realize is that a 10 year 100 mil contract with 20 mil signing bonus is actually worse then a 5 year 50 mil contract with a 20 mil signing bonus. Those extra 5 years do nothing but give the team extra flexibility to keep him longer if they want. It doesn't really do anything extra for the player.
 

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What have they done to make him mature? I think Dez has bent over backwards to correct himself, and that's why he feels frustrated. BTW, outside of one tweet where he said he wished the team loved him as much as he loves them, I can't think of another example of him being immature in the last 3 years.
Surrounding him with 99 mentors and advisers ranging from lawyers to bankers to whomever you can think of as a support group to help him manage his affairs when Oakland or Cincinnati would have left him entirely to his own devices.
 

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Surrounding him with 99 mentors and advisers ranging from lawyers to bankers to whomever you can think of as a support group to help him manage his affairs when Oakland or Cincinnati would have left him entirely to his own devices.
That is called protecting your assets.
 

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Dez is going to do what he will do. If I'm his agent I probably advise him to sign the tag, then next year his market value won't be any lower so he can take the big payday, then go for the long term deal after that. Not too much chance he has a down year in 2015. Go into 2016 on the tag and you're wondering whether Romo will still be able to get him the ball for health and declining arm strength reasons.
 

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Dez Bryant camp believes Cowboys are behind video rumors

February 27, 2015
by Larry Brown

Dez Bryant is trying to figure out who is responsible for all the recent rumors that have been spread about a potentially damaging video involving him, and a new report says his camp believes the Dallas Cowboys are the source of the leaks.

According to Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole, Bryant’s camp believes the Cowboys leaked rumors about the video to try driving down the price of the talented free agent wide receiver. Cole notes that the Cowboys have publicly denied knowledge of the video and that it wouldn’t make sense for them to spread damaging information about one of their star players. Nevertheless, Bryant’s side reportedly believes the Cowboys are behind it.

TMZ separately reported that Bryant’s mother believes someone is trying to sabotage her son, and she is trying to figure out who.

This information would run contrary to the report we shared about Bryant potentially being blackmailed by someone his old agent was paying off. If that were the case, then Bryant’s camp would more than likely know who is behind the video.

What also seems to contradict to this report is that the Cowboys supposedly had interest in a 2011 Walmart surveillance video that supposedly involves Bryant. If the Cowboys already knew about this video and were behind the rumors, then why would they be interested in the tape? It seems like someone else is behind it.
 

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Take that with a grain of salt. It is the Yardbarker and Bleacher Report so...
 

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Why would Walmart keep a 5 year old video?
I worked at Walmart ISD in 2011 on the Data Transfer team. I literally wrote portions of the software they use to send data from the stores to the home office. We absolutely did not send store surveillance video to the home office. We were asked about it several times by Loss Prevention but (surprise!) Walmart is very cheap and didn't want to pay for the additional bandwidth it would have taken to transfer video over the network. They do have DVRs in the stores, but they would not have the storage to keep video for 5 years. It is possible someone made a copy at the time, but unless that happened that video is long gone.

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Oh, and my manager's name was Brian. He really likes hunting and coach's his daughter's softball team. Forgot to drop some random irrelevant information so you guys would know its true
 

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Wal-Mart says it doesn’t have video of July 2011 incident
Florio's spin: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...s-it-doesnt-have-video-of-july-2011-incident/

Implicit in Nick’s answer is that security footage of the incident at one point existed and was in the possession of Wal-Mart for a period of time after the incident occurred. Nick also was explaining the company’s normal procedures in cases like this; as a corporate-level employee, he wouldn’t know whether someone at the Lancaster Wal-Mart decided on his or her own to preserve the footage.

Nearly two weeks ago, when I mentioned during an appearance on 105.3 The Fan in Dallas that multiple NFL insiders were investigating the existence of a videotape of an incident involving Dez Bryant, I made it very clear that I didn’t know whether a video exists. I still don’t know whether a video exists. I said that people who cover the NFL had been aggressively pursuing the story (including the possible existence of a video), and that many league insiders are aware of the story. Adam Schefter of ESPN thereafter confirmed that, indeed, people who cover the NFL had been aggressively pursuing the story.

Though I shared no specifics during the February 20 segment with Shan Shariff and R.J. Choppy of 105.3 The Fan, the police report obtained last month and published last week by NFL Media meshes with the details I’d been given back in November: (1) something happened outside a Dallas-area Wal-Mart; (2) the incident occurred in 2011; and (3) the incident involved a woman being dragged across the parking lot.

Currently, we know the Lancaster police department doesn’t have the video because the Lancaster police officer never asked to see it. We also now know that a Wal-Mart spokesman claims it didn’t preserve the video as a matter of corporate policy because law enforcement didn’t ask Wal-Mart to do so.

But we don’t know whether anyone at Wal-Mart preserved the images separate from an official law-enforcement directive to do so. We also don’t know whether Carl King or Christopher Mitchell, who arrived at the scene in an Escalade registered to Bryant to retrieve the Mercedes that was parked with the door still open, will share with the media what they know about the incident.

Likewise, we don’t know anything about Alex Penson’s knowledge of the incident; he’s the man with whom the alleged victim claims she simply had an argument. Even though the police report says the officers spoke with “all parties involved,” there’s no evidence that anyone ever asked Penson whether he was in the Wal-Mart lot on or about 6:00 a.m. on July 11, 2011, whether he had an argument with the alleged victim, and/or whether he dragged her out of the Mercedes registered to Dez Bryant and/or dragged her to another car.

It’ll be interesting to see whether King, Mitchell, and/or Penson ever talk to the media about what happened in the Wal-Mart parking lot that morning.
 

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they are waiting a few more weeks to stir up the gumbo so to speak. Give it a real shock factor when you see dez bryant punting an infant into the highway
 

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Does anyone care WTF happened 4 years ago?
 

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Talk about a story that blew up quickly and disappeared even quicker. I want Terrez Owens to be held accountable!:unsure
 
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