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boozeman

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Actually, yeah. It is. Neither of us were comparing their skills, but how they were looked at by their organizations.
And even that is a mistake. Romo cannot carry a team like Marino could do. That guy had just as little of a running game and sporadic D as Romo and still could keep his team in contention each and every year.
 

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And even that is a mistake. Romo cannot carry a team like Marino could do. That guy had just as little of a running game and sporadic D as Romo and still could keep his team in contention each and every year.
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ok. It was just a comparison saying both organizations f'd up by not getting either the help they needed. No comparing of arm strength, accuracy, foot work, smarts, leadership, etc... Just the situations they each found themselves in, and there is no denying that each organization expects/expected them to do too much. Sorry to offend.
 

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Marino's first five years in the league changed football, which is why he's in the Hall of Fame. The rules changes in 1978 opened up the game and Marino single-handedly elevated the NFL passing game in the 1980's.

After those five years, though, the league adjusted to pass-heavy offenses and Marino had far less of an impact.

The facts are Romo throws for more TD's and yards and fewer ints per throw than Marino against competition better prepared to defend the pass. I don't GAS that Marino is an NFL legend.

The comparison is valid, except for physical stature. Marino had a stronger arm (though not as strong as Elway or Roethlisberger) and was far more durable, Romo actually has a quicker release (which is mind boggling considering Marino set the standard for quick releases) and is more elusive.

Marino failed because he refused to be part of an offense that ran the football. I believe Romo wants to run the ball if it works, but it never seems to when he needs it most.

Because he started as a rookie, Marino played 17 seasons as a primary starter. No way in Hell can Romo equal that.
 

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The biggest problem Romo has is that I don't think he can get a team to want to play for him. He's just one of the guy and stuff. Guys like Brady, Brees, Manning...they kind of separate themselves in a way. They are established as leaders. Their teammates are afraid to let them down, I don't think anyone is afraid of letting Romo down.
 

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The biggest problem Romo has is that I don't think he can get a team to want to play for him. He's just one of the guy and stuff. Guys like Brady, Brees, Manning...they kind of separate themselves in a way. They are established as leaders. Their teammates are afraid to let them down, I don't think anyone is afraid of letting Romo down.
Romo needs to get John Roper cut.
 

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No, he needs a coach that demands respect and takes the burden off of him to not try to be something he is not. He is not a natural leader IMO, but he is forced into that role because we have an uncharasmatic robot as coach.
 

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No, he needs a coach that demands respect and takes the burden off of him to not try to be something he is not. He is not a natural leader IMO, but he is forced into that role because we have an uncharasmatic robot as coach.
There is a trickle down element, but Romo mainly needs respect independent of either his coach or owner. Parcells said it best when he told Romo teammates like but don't follow the class clown.

Like you said, Romo is almost too nice. He needs to get in peoples faces and they need to feel the consequences of challenging him.
 

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Not close to Dan Marino...better comparison would be Warren Moon.
 

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The biggest problem Romo has is that I don't think he can get a team to want to play for him. He's just one of the guy and stuff. Guys like Brady, Brees, Manning...they kind of separate themselves in a way. They are established as leaders. Their teammates are afraid to let them down, I don't think anyone is afraid of letting Romo down.
Why would they? He's let them down countless times.
 

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The biggest problem Romo has is that I don't think he can get a team to want to play for him. He's just one of the guy and stuff. Guys like Brady, Brees, Manning...they kind of separate themselves in a way. They are established as leaders. Their teammates are afraid to let them down, I don't think anyone is afraid of letting Romo down.
To be fair, he isn't afraid to let them down, either. He does it multiple times. Every. Fucking. Year.
 

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And I must say, I'm pleased that my stats compiling Romo-Marino comparison sparked a genuine conversation. Normally, my comments spell the death to any thread.
 
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