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I don’t think we'll overpay, so if he has value elsewhere, so be it. We'd be forced again to go OL early...which is OK, but if we end up have to address RB too we will have to go O with 2 of the first 4 picks. All for BPA, but DT, DE, S are pretty glaring needs...not to mention LB and CB if we let Carr go. It will be interesting.
If we don't address RB and OL in free agency I can guarantee you we will have made some signings on the defensive side of the ball to solidify some of those need areas. No way we let Murray and Free walk, do nothing in free agency to address those areas, and then ignore the defense as well. We are going to sign guys outside of Dez.
 

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If we don't address RB and OL in free agency I can guarantee you we will have made some signings on the defensive side of the ball to solidify some of those need areas. No way we let Murray and Free walk, do nothing in free agency to address those areas, and then ignore the defense as well. We are going to sign guys outside of Dez.
I realize we'll sign some guys, but the DL additions have to be better than what we have brought in of late...particularly on the DL. We are too damn close now to have to fill multiple holes.
 

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I don't see moving Martin outside as a negative. He is smart and athletic enough to make the move. He will excel there just as he did at G. G is easier to replace, so if we can get the right parts I'd have no problem with the move.
 

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I don't see moving Martin outside as a negative. He is smart and athletic enough to make the move. He will excel there just as he did at G. G is easier to replace, so if we can get the right parts I'd have no problem with the move.
No doubt he is athletic, which with what we do is best utilized at G. Also, the importance of a sturdy interior for Romo is more important than ever.
 

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I would like to see Martin stay inside, he was dominant at times and will only get better. He has a mean streak in him too that I like seeing in pulling guards, you don't want to be the OLB or trap man when Martin is coming at you. If we don't resign Free, I think we can find a tackle in free agency or better yet a mid rounder (I know that's wishful thinking).
 

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G is easier to replace
Yeah, that's why we sucked out loud at guard until we spent a first rounder on it.

Sorry, I don't trust us to pull off a move like this. This is the same organization that signed Nate Livings to a five year $19 million dollar deal just three years ago.
 

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I can't blame anyone for not trusting the team's evaluation ability. I trust Martin more than anything. He is just really good and I believe he will be very versatile as well.

I want a strong interior just like the next guy but in the NFL teams will find the weakness and go for it. If it happens to be at RT or G it won't matter.
 

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I can't blame anyone for not trusting the team's evaluation ability.
It has nothing to do with our perception of whether the team can evaluate or not. It has everything to do with we already know that we have an all pro caliber G only one year into his career. I don't want to mess with that by moving him outside and hoping that he can play even close to as well as he does on the inside. I'm not willing to bet that he would be just as good, especially considering we'd also have to find a suitable replacement for him at guard. I would prefer to find a RT that could play as good or better than Free, while keeping my stud guard that's already in place.

It makes much more sense to me to bank the sure thing and look for one replacement over cashing in the sure thing on the hope that we can now find two replacements.
 

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It has nothing to do with our perception of whether the team can evaluate or not. It has everything to do with we already know that we have an all pro caliber G only one year into his career. I don't want to mess with that by moving him outside and hoping that he can play even close to as well as he does on the inside. I'm not willing to bet that he would be just as good, especially considering we'd also have to find a suitable replacement for him at guard. I would prefer to find a RT that could play as good or better than Free, while keeping my stud guard that's already in place.

It makes much more sense to me to bank the sure thing and look for one replacement over cashing in the sure thing on the hope that we can now find two replacements.
I have confidence in Martin to make the switch so I don't see it as worrying about two spots. In my mind we are still dealing with one spot either way. That gives us flexibility in who we chose to sign/draft. Either a G or RT...
 

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I don't see moving Martin outside as a negative. He is smart and athletic enough to make the move. He will excel there just as he did at G. G is easier to replace, so if we can get the right parts I'd have no problem with the move.
He has short arms and we really don't know how he would handle being on a island, when he did struggle this year it was with quickness which would be more of an issue outside.

I don't think anybody is saying his play will be a negative but will he be as valuable at RT as G where you already know he is top tier.
 

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He has short arms and we really don't know how he would handle being on a island, when he did struggle this year it was with quickness which would be more of an issue outside.

I don't think anybody is saying his play will be a negative but will he be as valuable at RT as G where you already know he is top tier.
Right. Some say they don't know, other say maybe but I am saying I feel confident he'd be good. I mostly formed my opinion based on me being awesome, which I'm willing to bet on.
 

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I have confidence in Martin to make the switch so I don't see it as worrying about two spots. In my mind we are still dealing with one spot either way. That gives us flexibility in who we chose to sign/draft. Either a G or RT...
You have confidence Martin can play at a all pro level at OT?
 

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Right. Some say they don't know, other say maybe but I am saying I feel confident he'd be good. I mostly formed my opinion based on me being awesome, which I'm willing to bet on.
Are you then confident we will find a G who can play at that level?

Because guards are very important to this offense.
 

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Are you then confident we will find a G who can play at that level?

Because guards are very important to this offense.
I'm confident that most people understand that all 5 offensive linemen are important.

I'm confident that I've already addressed the rest of it previously.

I say that with confidence.
 

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Frederick is in the middle, regardless of Martin.
Yeah, so?

We're talking about moving a guard to tackle. What does this have to do with Frederick? The fact that I said the word 'middle'?

Ok, I guess you got me. Technically, the middle of the OL is the center. I guess I should have said the interior of the line. That would have been so much clearer. Sorry for the confusion.
 

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Yeah, so?

We're talking about moving a guard to tackle. What does this have to do with Frederick? The fact that I said the word 'middle'?

Ok, I guess you got me. Technically, the middle of the OL is the center. I guess I should have said the interior of the line. That would have been so much clearer. Sorry for the confusion.
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Yeah, so?

We're talking about moving a guard to tackle. What does this have to do with Frederick? The fact that I said the word 'middle'?

Ok, I guess you got me. Technically, the middle of the OL is the center. I guess I should have said the interior of the line. That would have been so much clearer. Sorry for the confusion.
I just meant that if you move Martin, you still have strength inside from Frederick. Who you pair him up with is the question. But the drop off from Free to Parnell affected the line play significantly. I don't really want to see us try to make that a permanent move. I think it might be easier to find a suitable guard than a strong RT.
 

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I just meant that if you move Martin, you still have strength inside from Frederick. Who you pair him up with is the question. But the drop off from Free to Parnell affected the line play significantly. I don't really want to see us try to make that a permanent move. I think it might be easier to find a suitable guard than a strong RT.
That is what made me sort of think that moving Martin out would be OK if we found a good G to replace him. When Parnell came in it made a huge difference in our game.
 

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That is what made me sort of think that moving Martin out would be OK if we found a good G to replace him. When Parnell came in it made a huge difference in our game.
I can't help but think Martin would be a better RT than Parnell. And probably better than Free.
 
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