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Pretty much.

McCarthy has raisins for balls. They were practically gifted the game and he passed opportunity after opportunity to finish them off.
He could have been more aggressive at times, but there were 3 opportunities to score TD's where they just simply couldn't get the job done, and it wasn't due to being conservative.

I'll fault him for the FG from the 1 yard line early on, and then the 3 runs and punt after the late INT. Everything else is just on the offense not getting it done, and Seattle's D making plays when they had to.
 

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They took their foot off the throttle when it made no sense to do so. Peppers telling him to go down, Matthews yucking it up just waiting for the champagne and champ shirts on the side line.

I blame Peppers for Burnett going down, he was starting to run and saw Peppers in front of him telling him that.
Yea, that is completely inexcusable. He would've picked up at least 20 yards and that would've put them in FG range.

Again, this is why you do not stop playing till the end. They got what they deserved.
 

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Rodgers is even questioning the playcalling for the Packerd...felt they were way too conservative. You don't normally here that kind of chirping there.
He's right and he should know.
 

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I'm all for being aggressive, but I agree with McCarthy when he said that points were going to be at a premium coming in and he had to take what he could early on. I think they should have tried again on 4th and 1 from the 1 yard line, but I don't have a problem with the other FG attempts inside the 5.

The Packers had no business losing that game and the biggest reason why can be attributed to a colossal meltdown that has no real explanation. Ok, so you give up the 2nd TD....that happens. But then you allow an onside kick, then a TD, then an absolute joke of 2 point conversion.

How in the hell does all that happen?

Ultimately, as I said before, it only has a chance to happen due to not getting into the endzone and only coming away with 6 points on 4 first half turnovers. Rodger's pick in the endzone was big too, and that has nothing to do with lack of aggressiveness.

They simply just blew it, and criticizing the playcalling now is just overlooking what really cost them that game.
I think the defense started coasting too quickly in the last 5 minutes and the DC was plahing waz too conservative. The game should never have gone to overtime. 12 point lead with 5 minutes to go should not have been blown.
 

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I think the defense started coasting too quickly in the last 5 minutes and the DC was plahing waz too conservative. The game should never have gone to overtime. 12 point lead with 5 minutes to go should not have been blown.
The defense more than did their share...the offense let them down.
 
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@FakeWIPCaller: I am outraged by this ball-deflating stuff. I'm also upset the Eagles never cared enough to try it
 

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The defense more than did their share...the offense let them down.
Of course you can argue that but the Packers has enough points to win the game. They was alreadt on the board. If the offense did nothing more there was a winning margin already posted. The Defense had shut down the Hawks the entire game then suddenly decided to go to a conservative alignment. Guess what? That gave Seattle enough wiggle room to score points. It just another case of using a prevent defense to get your team beat.
 

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Of course you can argue that but the Packers has enough points to win the game. They was alreadt on the board. If the offense did nothing more there was a winning margin already posted. The Defense had shut down the Hawks the entire game then suddenly decided to go to a conservative alignment. Guess what? That gave Seattle enough wiggle room to score points. It just another case of using a prevent defense to get your team beat.
I don't think Green Bay went that conservative, and even if they backed off some, it's no different than what every other team does in that situation.

Most teams back off to some degree because they don't wanna give you everything in one short play.

The biggest reason why Seattle began to have success is because they went back to sandlot ball which is what they do well as opposed to trying to run this conventional passing attack as they did for most of the game. Once they went into playground mode, Green Bay wasn't sure how to handle it in such a short amount of time.
 

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I don't think Green Bay went that conservative, and even if they backed off some, it's no different than what every other team does in that situation.

Most teams back off to some degree because they don't wanna give you everything in one short play.

The biggest reason why Seattle began to have success is because they went back to sandlot ball which is what they do well as opposed to trying to run this conventional passing attack as they did for most of the game. Once they went into playground mode, Green Bay wasn't sure how to handle it in such a short amount of time.
You give a team wiggle room and they will move the ball. I can't tell you how many times i have seen it happen. It's an ingrained coaching philosophy to go conservative and burn the clock. As many times as it has happened they continue to do it.
 

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It almost sounds Democratic vs Republican...

The govt (Packers D) gave the poor (offense) all these handouts, govt assisted programs, etc. Offense didn't take advantage of it and it's the govt's fault that they're allowing jobs to leave/immigrants in.
 

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Of course you can argue that but the Packers has enough points to win the game. They was alreadt on the board. If the offense did nothing more there was a winning margin already posted. The Defense had shut down the Hawks the entire game then suddenly decided to go to a conservative alignment. Guess what? That gave Seattle enough wiggle room to score points. It just another case of using a prevent defense to get your team beat.
Come on man...they score on a short field after an onside kick and on a fake FG...the D is not blameless, but of the 3 facets of the game the defense was the strongest part of their day.
 

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Come on man...they score on a short field after an onside kick and on a fake FG...the D is not blameless, but of the 3 facets of the game the defense was the strongest part of their day.
You are absolutely right the defense was the strongest part then they changed it up. That's my whole point.
 

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So what happens if the NFL discovers the Pats intentionally deflated the ball?
 

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You are absolutely right the defense was the strongest part then they changed it up. That's my whole point.
Well, then the Packers changed up their offense in the last 1:07 of regulation to get into FG position with ease. So, blame the offense for 58:53 and the defense for 3:52.
 
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