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Paper tigers?

They won the toughest division and are back in the Super Bowl. That's not a fluke, IMO.
I'm not saying they suck or are a fluke, but I don't think they are championship caliber. They aren't the team they were last year and I think the patriots are better.

They also should've lost to the packers and I believe would've lost to us.

By saying paper tigers I mean they aren't as good as their reputation.
 

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Rodgers is even questioning the playcalling for the Packerd...felt they were way too conservative. You don't normally here that kind of chirping there.
 

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Rodgers is even questioning the playcalling for the Packerd...felt they were way too conservative. You don't normally here that kind of chirping there.
It's easy to criticize in hindsight.

As I said before, the issue is not being able to punch it in on 4 separate occasions. I saw the highlights and saw that they were trying to pass in the redzone but simply couldn't get into the endzone.

That is the biggest reason why they lost, and Rodgers didn't play all that well either, so he should stfu. If just one of those 4 possessions ends in a TD, that game is too far out of reach.

The Lions found out vs us, we found out against Green Bay, and they found out yesterday that you cannot leave multiple opportunities out on the field in a playoff game and expect to win. 1 or 2 you can survive, but 3, 4, and 5?

You'll pay for that, and all of those teams did.
 
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It's easy to criticize in hindsight.

As I said before, the issue is not being able to punch it in on 4 separate occasions. I saw the highlights and saw that they were trying to pass in the redzone but simply couldn't get into the endzone.

That is the biggest reason why they lost, and Rodgers didn't play all that well either, so he should stfu. If just one of those 4 possessions ends in a TD, that game is too far out of reach.

The Lions found out vs us, we found out against Green Bay, and they found out yesterday that you cannot leave multiple opportunities out on the field in a playoff game and expect to win. 1 or 2 you can survive, but 3, 4, and 5?

You'll play for that, and all of those teams did.
I definitely put this on the offense if I had to point fingers. Their D gave them every opportunity to put the game away and they couldn't. Credit the Seahawks for overcoming a terrible offensive performance and having their D.and particularly ST carry them.
 

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I definitely put this on the offense if I had to point fingers. Their D gave them every opportunity to put the game away and they couldn't. Credit the Seahawks for overcoming a terrible offensive performance and having their D.and particularly ST carry them.
I know Burnett is catching shit for going down on that INT, but if you watch the replay you'll notice that Julius Peppers is telling him to get down as well. It's like they all just figured it was over.

Granted, I think 99% of the people watching that game thought the same thing, but as cliche as it sounds, the players have to play to the final whistle. With 5 min to play, it isn't like you're going to run the clock out on 3 runs and a punt, as they tried to do there. Every yard counts, especially in a game of this magnitude.

The Packers played out the end of that game as if they had it in the bag, and you simply cannot do that at this stage.
 

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I'm not saying they suck or are a fluke, but I don't think they are championship caliber. They aren't the team they were last year and I think the patriots are better.

They also should've lost to the packers and I believe would've lost to us.

By saying paper tigers I mean they aren't as good as their reputation.
I agree about Seattle, but at the same time I don't think the Pats are world beaters either. Their win over Indy was even less impressive than Oregon's win over FSU which didn't do them much good the following game.

The Pats barely escaped the Ravens just last week, played in a weak division and really haven't been tested much this year other than at GB.

Now if Seattle plays as poorly in the SB as they did the first 56:00 yesterday then they'll probably get bombed. But I think they put forth a better effort and it'll be a fairly close game that could go either way.
 

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I know Burnett is catching shit for going down on that INT, but if you watch the replay you'll notice that Julius Peppers is telling him to get down as well. It's like they all just figured it was over.

Granted, I think 99% of the people watching that game thought the same thing, but as cliche as it sounds, the players have to play to the final whistle.
I have a feeling they watched Demarcus Lawrence against the Lions and thought "get down". In a way, the Cowboys may have had a hand in knocking the Packers out of the playoffs.
 

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Cheaters gonna cheat.
 

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Cheaters gonna cheat.
:lol

What scumbags.

I don't know how anyone can cheer for these smug bastards.
 

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I'm not saying they suck or are a fluke, but I don't think they are championship caliber. They aren't the team they were last year and I think the patriots are better.

They also should've lost to the packers and I believe would've lost to us.

By saying paper tigers I mean they aren't as good as their reputation.
I think you're selling them way too short.

They're offense is nothing special, but that defense is tough. What exactly have the Pats done to impress you so much? They played and took advantage of an awful division and beat two very flawed 10-6 teams in the playoffs.

Big deal.

The Seahawks pretty much shut down the Packers passing game which is better than the one they have in New England, so don't expect New England to light up the scoreboard. Their defense is much better than the ones they've had in recent seasons so I expect Seattle to have trouble getting into the endzone as well, but this is going to be a close game and I think the Seahawks have an excellent chance to win.
 

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The Colts didn't get their asses kicked 45-7 because of some underinflated footballs.
 

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The Colts didn't get their asses kicked 45-7 because of some underinflated footballs.
Of course not, but why do the Pats always feel the need to commit such bush league acts?

They've done this type of shit for the entirety of the Belichick/Brady era. You don't have to be an over the top poster boy like Wilson, but you can at least pretend that you're trying to win with some type of class.

It's one thing to be the asshole that nobody likes, which I wouldn't have a problem with, and it's another to be a total scumbag. The Patriots fall into the latter category.
 

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It's easy to criticize in hindsight.

As I said before, the issue is not being able to punch it in on 4 separate occasions. I saw the highlights and saw that they were trying to pass in the redzone but simply couldn't get into the endzone.

That is the biggest reason why they lost, and Rodgers didn't play all that well either, so he should stfu. If just one of those 4 possessions ends in a TD, that game is too far out of reach.

The Lions found out vs us, we found out against Green Bay, and they found out yesterday that you cannot leave multiple opportunities out on the field in a playoff game and expect to win. 1 or 2 you can survive, but 3, 4, and 5?

You'll pay for that, and all of those teams did.
You can't settle for a 17.5 yard field goal to open the game. You can't settle for going to the ground when you make your fourth interception and have miles of green ahead of you. You can't settle for run, run, run, punt.

Seattle won that game by not quitting, but it would have been out of reach against a team led by a coach with balls.
 

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I know Burnett is catching shit for going down on that INT, but if you watch the replay you'll notice that Julius Peppers is telling him to get down as well. It's like they all just figured it was over.
They took their foot off the throttle when it made no sense to do so. Peppers telling him to go down, Matthews yucking it up just waiting for the champagne and champ shirts on the side line.

I blame Peppers for Burnett going down, he was starting to run and saw Peppers in front of him telling him that.
 

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You can't settle for a 17.5 yard field goal to open the game. You can't settle for going to the ground when you make your fourth interception and have miles of green ahead of you. You can't settle for run, run, run, punt.

Seattle won that game by not quitting, but it would have been out of reach against a team led by a coach with balls.
Pretty much.

McCarthy has raisins for balls. They were practically gifted the game and he passed opportunity after opportunity to finish them off.
 

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You can't settle for a 17.5 yard field goal to open the game. You can't settle for going to the ground when you make your fourth interception and have miles of green ahead of you. You can't settle for run, run, run, punt.

Seattle won that game by not quitting, but it would have been out of reach against a team led by a coach with balls.
I'm all for being aggressive, but I agree with McCarthy when he said that points were going to be at a premium coming in and he had to take what he could early on. I think they should have tried again on 4th and 1 from the 1 yard line, but I don't have a problem with the other FG attempts inside the 5.

The Packers had no business losing that game and the biggest reason why can be attributed to a colossal meltdown that has no real explanation. Ok, so you give up the 2nd TD....that happens. But then you allow an onside kick, then a TD, then an absolute joke of 2 point conversion.

How in the hell does all that happen?

Ultimately, as I said before, it only has a chance to happen due to not getting into the endzone and only coming away with 6 points on 4 first half turnovers. Rodger's pick in the endzone was big too, and that has nothing to do with lack of aggressiveness.

They simply just blew it, and criticizing the playcalling now is just overlooking what really cost them that game.
 

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Pretty much.

McCarthy has raisins for balls. They were practically gifted the game and he passed opportunity after opportunity to finish them off.
To top it off, I just caught him at the podium in the post game interview saying something about how "Hey, I expected to win. I wouldn't change my play calling" or something to that effect.

It's just pathetic. Seattle is fortunate they had this performance against Green Bay and not New England. New England will step on your throat from the opening kickoff if you give them the window.
 
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