McClain, Carter, or Durant?

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As you all know, all 3 of these guys are FA's and we need to bring at least one of them back or we're going to be very thin at LB.

Let's say that you can only bring one guy back, and just for the sake of debate, let's say that each player would cost roughly the same to lock up to a contract. Considering that all things are relatively even, which player would you invest the money into? Each player has pros and cons, so IMO, none of these guys stands head and shoulders above the other.

Let's look at each player's situation and examine our options:

Justin Durant

Of the 3, he was probably the most consistent and the one who was playing the best all around ball at the time of injury. Earlier in the season, most seem to agree that he needed to be brought back next year so I think we'd all like to see him return. However, he's turning 30 this year and he's been a JAG for his entire career. As a matter of fact, he was a JAG last season for us before picking up his play this year. So what happened? Has the light finally come on for a player in the latter stages of his career, or was this just a small window of good play for him? Is it enough to warrant a contract over the other guys? How confident are you that he can continue to play at the level that he was before injury? These are all things that need to be considered when deciding to choose him over McClain or Carter.

Rolando McClain

If you could guarantee that McClain would come back next year and be as motivated as he was this year and be relatively healthy for most of the year, then I think we'd all unanimously vote to bring back McClain.....but there are no guarantees, are there? His play early on really helped to set the tone for the rest of the year from a defensive standpoint. He showed his impressive athleticism and ability on some impressive plays in the 1st half of the year that reminded everyone why he was a top 10 pick a few years ago. Probably just as important, he brought a nastiness and toughness that had been missing from this defense for a long time, and even became somewhat of a leader in just a short amount of time. However, as with Durant, there were drawbacks. First, he dealt with a number of injuries as the season went on and he missed more and more snaps with each week. On top of that, he made fewer plays and had less of an impact as we got into the most important part of the season. Whether this was due to him dealing with injuries or him no longer playing above his head remains to be seen, but even then, are the injuries a result of being out of football for so long and needs his body to get used to being in football shape or because he's simply a player who will always have these types of health issues going forward? Obviously, there are a lot of questions surrounding him and that's not even mentioning the fact that this was a twice retired player whose devotion to football remains in question. Probably more than the other players in this argument, McClain's future is tough to predict.

Bruce Carter

While he still showed his lack of instincts at times, Bruce Carter really clicked in this defense, especially down the stretch when we needed him most. A guy who most thought was a natural fit for this defense when Kiffin was hired finally began to show this year that he could indeed be an asset in pass defense at the LB position. Even before his play went up a notch during the stretch run, Carter had a big time pick 6 at St. Louis and played very well against New Orleans where his deflection caused an INT. While he still has a ways to go as a run defender, I don't think the plays we saw him make in the passing game were flukey. After all, his ability to read passes and play as a pass defender were his strengths coming out of college. But of course, he has his negatives to consider as well. He's not the most instinctive player and there are times where his effort seems to be lacking. He had a poor 2013 IMO, and this was after he regressed in 2012 after a promising rookie season. And he also suffers from a recurring theme within this group - injuries. He missed the last quarter of the 2011 season because of injuries, and he's missed various games since including some this year just as he appeared to be getting into a groove. Can he pickup where he left off if brought back? Are things starting to click for him or is he simply teasing us again as he did his rookie season? And how much do we want to bring back a player whose effort has been questioned?


Conclusion

My vote would go to Carter and here's why - I think the success he enjoyed is sustainable. He's only 27 and the plays he made were exactly the types he made in college, so it's not like this is completely unexpected. We drafted him to be the playmaker in pass coverage that he was at various times this season. He's got a full season under his belt as a regular starter in a system that geared towards his strengths. With a whole offseason and camp as a starter, it's very likely that he'll make even more progress under Marinelli as he gains a better understanding of his role and assignments. And again, at 27 years old, he's the smartest investment IMO of the 3 guys.

McClain was great to watch at times, but he's simply got too many question marks for my liking. His dedication to the game, his unstable mentality, and the constant injuries are just way too much to invest in for a guy with his history, not to mention that we already have one unreliable player in Sean Lee who plays the same position.

As for Durant, I think his success was the flukiest of the 3. That doesn't mean he can't play that way next year, just that I think he's the least likely to pick up where he left off of the 3 guys. Then when you consider that he's going to be 30 and that he has spent 7 of the 7 1/2 seasons of his career as a total JAG, I find it very unlikely that he's all of a sudden becoming this good player. Chances are, he'll go back to being the average player he was before.

Now, once you take finances into account then anything can change, but we can discuss that later. For now, who do you pick if you can only have one?

Discuss.
 
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If price is the same and you can only keep one it clearly comes down to McClain and Carter, in which case I'd keep McClain because he's simply a better player. The concerns about his dedication to the game are valid but so are concerns about whether or not Carter's late season surge had to do with it being a contract year or if things actually clicked.

Ideally I'd like to bring back two of these guys because I'm pretty sure they won't be that expensive since there are concerns with all of them. I would also seriously consider drafting a LB in the 2nd or 3rd whether we sign none, one or two of these guys. I really like Perryman and Kendricks in particular, either would be very solid 2nd round picks and home runs in the 3rd.

Of course alot depends on what we do in free agency with regard to the DL and RB but we'll see.

Lee/Hitchens/Wilber/draft pick and then one or two of the 3 you listed is a damn solid LB group.
 
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I don't see how McClain isn't the pick. He was the catalyst for this defense when all seemed lost with how poorly they played last year and losing the one player who played well. Now having the opportunitity to have them both could be a huge deal. Let Lee take Carter's spot on the team as he walks. Durant was replaced by Hitchens.

Now just go out and get another LB or two in the late rounds of the draft.
 

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I sign Durant. The dude was playing some amazing football before he got hurt, was the most consistent LBer to that point, and won't break the bank to bring back.

Carter is too inconsistent and wants to get paid.

McClain-- as much as I like him-- spent far too many snaps on the sideline for my liking. For a guy as big and strong as he is-- he certainly didn't play through any injuries or strike me as a tough player. And the last thing this team needs is another injury prone LBer.

Next year, I roll with Durant, Lee, and Hitchens and draft another versatile Lber in rounds 2-4 and continue to stock pile tough, fast, intelligent LBers as undrafted FAs to round out the depth behind Wilber and the vet we signed from Atl late in the season (forget his name).
 

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I keep hearing how good Durant was...I missed it. He was solid, but not something out of the ordinary. Carter played better down the stretch than Durant did at any point this season. I'd argue that Hitchens was just as good too.

I will go with McClain though if I had to choose one. He is an impact guy...his presence and tackles change momentum of games. He is big and strong enough to get off blocks too.
 

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I sign Durant. The dude was playing some amazing football before he got hurt, was the most consistent LBer to that point, and won't break the bank to bring back.

Carter is too inconsistent and wants to get paid.

McClain-- as much as I like him-- spent far too many snaps on the sideline for my liking. For a guy as big and strong as he is-- he certainly didn't play through any injuries or strike me as a tough player. And the last thing this team needs is another injury prone LBer.

Next year, I roll with Durant, Lee, and Hitchens and draft another versatile Lber in rounds 2-4 and continue to stock pile tough, fast, intelligent LBers as undrafted FAs to round out the depth behind Wilber and the vet we signed from Atl late in the season (forget his name).
Yup, that's my stance on McClain as well.

As for Carter, I don't think he or any one of these guys is getting more than 2 million a year at the absolute most. None of them has done anything to warrant significant money.

The only who might get 3 mill or more a year is McClain, and that is only because someone might hope that the former top 10 pick is starting to fulfill his potential. But even then, I don't think he gets that money because teams will be too scared of the uncertainty.
 

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I'm done counting on Lee, if he is there and healthy great, use him. But to plan on him being there would be a mistake IMO.

I'd sign McClain, he has personal issues but we have seen the cowboys work with these types of players before and be successful. He brings an aggressiveness to the defense that we haven't seen in a long time, as well as leadership.

McClain, Hitchens, Wilber, Lee, Draft pick. (and I would try to retain carter for the right price)
 

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I have to go with McClain. He brought some much needed nasty to the defense this year. I think it's partly why they played over their heads. It was so nice watching the swarm to the ball. I think we can keep two, but if you force me to choose one it's Rolando.
 

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I'm done counting on Lee, if he is there and healthy great, use him. But to plan on him being there would be a mistake IMO.
But wouldn't you have the same concerns with McClain? What if we invest in McClain and both he and Lee are on the sidelines together?

If the idea is to keep McClain as an insurance policy to Lee, then I don't think that's the smartest choice.
 

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I'd keep McClain.

WLB Lee
MLB McClain
SLB Hitchens

Hope that the move to the weak side helps Lee's injury issues.
 

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I'd keep McClain.

WLB Lee
MLB McClain
SLB Hitchens

Hope that the move to the weak side helps Lee's injury issues.
While moving Lee to WLB would minimize the impact, I think it also minimizes his play.

We just have to hope he can actually stay healthy and let him play in the middle where he belongs. He's excellent at diagnosing plays from the middle of the field and he's outstanding in the passing game. I don't think I want to move him from that position at all.
 

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I may be wrong but I think Lee played a good amount of WLB in college, either way I think he'd be great playing any spot. I'm still looking hard at LB's in the 2nd or 3rd either way though, Lee turns 29 next year and we all know that both him and McClain are unreliable for various reasons. They're both too talented to just throw away but I think we should invest a high pick if the right guy is there as long term insurance for both.
 

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While moving Lee to WLB would minimize the impact, I think it also minimizes his play.

We just have to hope he can actually stay healthy and let him play in the middle where he belongs. He's excellent at diagnosing plays from the middle of the field and he's outstanding in the passing game. I don't think I want to move him from that position at all.
WLBer is one of the most important positions in this defense and it requires someone who is excellent in coverage. I see no reason why playing there wouldn't maximize Sean Lee's potential. McClain ' s size and height actually is a perfect fit for the Mlber spot.
 

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But wouldn't you have the same concerns with McClain? What if we invest in McClain and both he and Lee are on the sidelines together?

If the idea is to keep McClain as an insurance policy to Lee, then I don't think that's the smartest choice.
I do have concerns about McClain, but I think a lot of his nagging problems this season had a lot to do with him being out of football and not having any offseason work.

I'm hopeful that a full offseason will get him back in the type of shape he needs to be in for his body to take that type of punishment.
 

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Same money it has to be McLain, move Lee to WLB and you've got one of the best LB units in the NFL with those 2 Wilber and Hitchens.
Carter is second and I only bring back Durant for vet min.
 

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1. McClain
1b. Carter
3. Durant.

I take McClain if I can only have one, but would fight hard for the options we would have with core of Lee, Carter, McClain, and Hitchens. I like the flexibility that would offer us in case of injury and just in terms of keeping players fresh. Hitchens and Carter can play either side, Lee can pretty much play an LB position. McClain is the only one with a set position, but I would prefer Lee not take a pounding as the MLB.


Edit- What Angrymesscan said
 

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McClain seems like the guy, but I don't think we should break the bank. If he wants top FA money, he can find it elsewhere.
 

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1. McClain
1b. Carter
3. Durant.

I take McClain if I can only have one, but would fight hard for the options we would have with core of Lee, Carter, McClain, and Hitchens. I like the flexibility that would offer us in case of injury and just in terms of keeping players fresh. Hitchens and Carter can play either side, Lee can pretty much play an LB position. McClain is the only one with a set position, but I would prefer Lee not take a pounding as the MLB.


Edit- What Angrymesscan said
There was a point this season where Carter looked like absolute shit. I honestly want nothing to do with him as a starter next year. This is what Carter does. He flashes greatness for a couple of games and then looks like a total turd the next game. He is slow as shit at reading plays and gets off the ball very slow. McClain is the easy choice here but I'd take Durant back in a reserve role as well. Lets face it, Durant shouldn't cost much and when Sean Lee goes down he can fill that WLBer spot.
 

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There was a point this season where Carter looked like absolute shit. I honestly want nothing to do with him as a starter next year. This is what Carter does. He flashes greatness for a couple of games and then looks like a total turd the next game. He is slow as shit at reading plays and gets off the ball very slow. McClain is the easy choice here but I'd take Durant back in a reserve role as well. Lets face it, Durant shouldn't cost much and when Sean Lee goes down he can fill that WLBer spot.
Yup, if I can only resign one of the three, McClain is by far the #1 choice. He's the most talented of the bunch, played the best this year, and he allows Lee to move to WLB which is a perfect fit for him and hopefully helps him stay on the field. Hitchens is serviceable at SLB (which is probably the least important position in this defensive scheme) and can fill in at MLB if McClain misses time. Carter is far too inconsistent for me to be willing to give him anything more than a very cheap deal. Durant should be very cheap and would be decent depth.
 

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I do have concerns about McClain, but I think a lot of his nagging problems this season had a lot to do with him being out of football and not having any offseason work.

I'm hopeful that a full offseason will get him back in the type of shape he needs to be in for his body to take that type of punishment.
I'm in this camp. I don't think he had injury issues in college and I believe his late season injuries were from being off a year.
I'd keep McClain.

WLB Lee
MLB McClain
SLB Hitchens

Hope that the move to the weak side helps Lee's injury issues.
This is exactly what I would want to do. You still draft someone in the early mid rounds though.
 
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