Wildcard Sunday Chatter | Cowboys and Lions | 1/4/2015

[Cotton]

I'm done. We won our first playoff game in 5 years. Enjoy it, you assholes.

Peace.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Remember when they took Tom Brady's SB trophy away for the tuck rule? How about the Ravens not getting any credit for their victory, since there was a clear non-call that affected the end of the game?

Or gift-wrapping the SB for Pitts against Seattle in Bettis' last game.

 

[GShock]

I think we agree on what's PI, but our definitions of 'faceguarding' is different. To clarify, a DB is given more leeway with physical contact if he was going for the ball versus not looking at the ball at all.

Had Hitchens been turned 180 degrees with back contacting Pettigrew, it wouldn't have been close to a PI. The fact that Hitchens hadn't turned his head at all, the flag came out because of the 'faceguard' position.

I don't mean to say that if Hitchens were 10 yards trailing his WR and faceguarding that there would be a penalty.

Ok. I just think some folks still believe that face guarding alone is a penalty. I agree with what you wrote about how the defender's positioning affects PI calls.

And Detroit can piss off. I remember the 12 men they had on the field for the FG in 1981.

 

[bbgun]

I've seen the Bart Starr QB sneak game considered Ice Bowl II since the Cowboys lost in Green Bay the year before with Meredith throwing a game-losing INT in the end zone.

there was ice in Dallas? that's the only way IB3 makes sense

 

[GShock]

By the way. I HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE how much we went empty backfield.

Agreed

 

[townsend]

Or gift-wrapping the SB for Pitts against Seattle in Bettis' last game.

I wasn't gonna mention that one, because I was and will be a rotten asshole about that game anytime anyone brings it up.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Agreed, except if the WR is trying to come back and make the catch on an underthrown ball or back shoulder throw.

That's only when the receiver is being contacted and pushed away from the ball by the defender. On the Hitchen's play the only contact that was made prior to the ball arriving was Hitchens knocking the receiver's arm off of his facemask which is not a penalty.

 

[Tony D]

2 weeks off. He'll be fine.

Oh, so he'll be 100% and ready to run around, scramble for first downs? Good to know.

He might get in a practice or two this week. If he trusts to scramble again next week he'll hurt it again . Mobility will be an issue.

 

[GShock]

We beat Detroit with the offensive coordinator they fired last year and a defensive coordinator who led them to 0-16. We beat Detroit with Detroit cast offs.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Hey, we're on a 5 game winning streak! We're headed on the road, where we're undefeated! We're facing Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay, where he's kinda bad in the playoffs.
We had our 2nd playoff win since 1996. We just avenged Romo's meltdown, last years loss to Detroit, and fuck it, 1991.

I'm still in full on homer mode. Most Super Bowl champions have some close calls. 2003 Pats, 2006 Colts, 2007 Giants all won games in the playoffs by the skin of their teeth. I could look and find a dozen more.

Yep. This games was not indicative of what we are capable of. We had a really shitty game plan.

 

[GShock]

Oh, so he'll be 100% and ready to run around, scramble for first downs? Good to know.

He might get in a practice or two this week. If he trusts to scramble again next week he'll hurt it again . Mobility will be an issue.

And it will be cold. Hard to get loose. Hard to stay loose.

 

[data]

GOing back to a question I posted about a better indicator of good offense with Dez, Murray going 100+ or Romo with Zero INTs...

...I think the Lions containing Dez was paramount to our offensive struggles. Luckily, we had just enough big plays to win -- we've been accustomed to many 20+ plays as of late, but tonight having TWill was able to make that big ~50 yard TD and Dez had that one big 3rd down conversion was just enough.

We're not an offense that can go 5 yards per play methodically to score. We're a big pass play offense that needs enough DeMarco Murray to set up our big passes.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Posting after the game is over about posts in game is what is stupid. And, yeah, I think it's a reason to get up in arms.

Why? It's funny looking back and seeing things we have done that are stupid. Especially when riding the high of a win.

 

[GShock]

GOing back to a question I posted about a better indicator of good offense with Dez, Murray going 100+ or Romo with Zero INTs...

...I think the Lions containing Dez was paramount to our offensive struggles. Luckily, we had just enough big plays to win -- we've been accustomed to many 20+ plays as of late, but tonight having TWill was able to make that big ~50 yard TD and Dez had that one big 3rd down conversion was just enough.

We're not an offense that can go 5 yards per play methodically to score. We're a big pass play offense that needs enough DeMarco Murray to set up our big passes.

I agree with how you've characterized this, but disagree that we *need* to be that way. If a defense wants to play 2 safeties back, we should Demarco them to death. Congrats, you frustrated Dez, but Murray went for 145, Romo completed passes at an 80% rate, Witten ate you alive underneath, and we possessed the ball for 40 minutes.

 

[townsend]

GOing back to a question I posted about a better indicator of good offense with Dez, Murray going 100+ or Romo with Zero INTs...

...I think the Lions containing Dez was paramount to our offensive struggles. Luckily, we had just enough big plays to win -- we've been accustomed to many 20+ plays as of late, but tonight having TWill was able to make that big ~50 yard TD and Dez had that one big 3rd down conversion was just enough.

We're not an offense that can go 5 yards per play methodically to score. We're a big pass play offense that needs enough DeMarco Murray to set up our big passes.

I think the defensive pressure was the most telling problem. Although I'm glad Romo took sacks instead of throwing picks. It felt like 1 out of every 3 passes was a negative play.

 

[Texas Ace]

thought we were screwed after Bailey missed the gimme.

Me too.

I really thought we had blown our last chance to turn it around there.

 

[data]

there was ice in Dallas? that's the only way IB3 makes sense

I've just seen many call Ice Bowl II being the QB sneak Bart Starr one because of this.

 

[kidd]

I'll admit that I wasn't the most positive poster during this thread. I was more or less comforting myself by saying that we should have expected a loss with their D-line playing as well as they were. I honestly thought our O-line would be outplayed and they were during the first half.

Boy am I glad to be wrong.

 

[townsend]

During the thread I may or may not have suggested Demarcus Lawrence should be raped to death. That was said in the heat of the moment, please no one attempt to sexually assault Demarcus Lawrence.

 

[data]

That's only when the receiver is being contacted and pushed away from the ball by the defender. On the Hitchen's play the only contact that was made prior to the ball arriving was Hitchens knocking the receiver's arm off of his facemask which is not a penalty.

I agree with you that I didn't think it was a penalty. However, "people" will say it's a bad call because a flag was actually tossed and recanted, especially after verbally being announced.