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I could see him being the kind of guy who has a huge contract year and then packs it in once he gets the mega contract. He had two bad years and then suddenly in the contract year this year he posts 12.5. The sad thing is he has the physical talent to put up 10-15 sacks every year and be a force at the age of 25. For all the bad Suh brings, I think he will play hard regardless of the money he receives.
Exactly how I feel about both players, which is why I prefer Suh.
 

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How could Dallas afford him? They have to sign Dez, DeMarco, McClain, maybe Free, Durant, and others like Spencer.

You could cut Carr (or at least force a big pay cut) and maybe Claiborne, but after them you are looking at takenig money/cutting Witten.

Hard to imagine losing a standup all-timer like Witten for a punk like Suh.
I have no idea how the money would work out.
 

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Exactly how I feel about both players, which is why I prefer Suh.
I think I'd prefer Suh as well although we clearly have a bigger hole at DE. I don't think we will have room for a mega contract on the D-line regardless. Which is why I mentioned someone like Hughes who could come at a much more reasonable price.
 

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History not on side of Cowboys' run offense
December, 30, 2014

By Todd Archer | ESPNDallas.com

IRVING, Texas -- The potential absence of Ndamukong Suh might help the Dallas Cowboys Sunday against the Detroit Lions more than many realize.

For just the fifth time since the 1970 merger, the NFL’s leading rusher will face off against the NFL’s leading run defense in the playoffs, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

The run defense has a 4-1 record.

In fact, no team with a rushing champ has won a playoff game since LaDainian Tomlinson and the 2007 San Diego Chargers.

But back to DeMarco Murray, who had 1,845 yards on the ground this season, vs. the Lions.

The only rushing champion to post a playoff win against the No. 1 run defense was Earl Campbell when the Houston Oilers beat the Denver Broncos in the 1979 wild-card round. Campbell was limited to 50 yards on 16 carries.

The most recent meeting camp in the 2004 divisional round when the Pittsburgh Steelers beat the New York Jets and Curtis Martin 20-17. Martin was held to 77 yards on 19 carries. The Tennessee Titans limited Baltimore Ravens running back Jamal Lewis, who had 2,066 yards in 2003, to just 35 yards in 14 carries in a 20-17 win. In 1983 Eric Dickerson was held to a season-low 16 yards on 10 carries in the Los Angeles Rams' loss to the Washington Redskins in the wild-card round.

If Suh’s suspension is upheld, then that would be a great benefit to the Cowboys. The Lions would be without Suh and Nick Fairley. Without them on the field together, the Lions are allowing 4.3 yards per carry.

But Murray has been at his best against three of the top-10 ranked rushing defenses he has faced this season. He had 118 yards against the San Francisco 49ers (seventh), 136 yards against the Houston Texans (10th) and 115 yards against the Seattle Seahawks (third).
 

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I think I'd prefer Suh as well although we clearly have a bigger hole at DE. I don't think we will have room for a mega contract on the D-line regardless. Which is why I mentioned someone like Hughes who could come at a much more reasonable price.
I've come to realize the DE position is enabled by the interior linemen collapsing the pocket. When the interior is strong, everything else can happen. Dallas had the deepest DTs in the league from 1992-1995 and had the #1 defense most of that time. They weren't special at edge sacks, but still dominated.

Suh is a mental case who needs firm coaching and IMO to feel like he doesn't have to carry the whole team on his back. Whoever he plays for will get an instant upgrade at every defensive position.
 

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Last time we played in weather like that in Chicago, the whole team acted like it didn't want to be there.
 

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I was just coming to suggest that we should consider signing Suh in the off-season. I see Geng beat me to it.
 

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History not on side of Cowboys' run offense
December, 30, 2014

By Todd Archer | ESPNDallas.com

IRVING, Texas -- The potential absence of Ndamukong Suh might help the Dallas Cowboys Sunday against the Detroit Lions more than many realize.

For just the fifth time since the 1970 merger, the NFL’s leading rusher will face off against the NFL’s leading run defense in the playoffs, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

The run defense has a 4-1 record.

In fact, no team with a rushing champ has won a playoff game since LaDainian Tomlinson and the 2007 San Diego Chargers.

But back to DeMarco Murray, who had 1,845 yards on the ground this season, vs. the Lions.

The only rushing champion to post a playoff win against the No. 1 run defense was Earl Campbell when the Houston Oilers beat the Denver Broncos in the 1979 wild-card round. Campbell was limited to 50 yards on 16 carries.

The most recent meeting camp in the 2004 divisional round when the Pittsburgh Steelers beat the New York Jets and Curtis Martin 20-17. Martin was held to 77 yards on 19 carries. The Tennessee Titans limited Baltimore Ravens running back Jamal Lewis, who had 2,066 yards in 2003, to just 35 yards in 14 carries in a 20-17 win. In 1983 Eric Dickerson was held to a season-low 16 yards on 10 carries in the Los Angeles Rams' loss to the Washington Redskins in the wild-card round.

If Suh’s suspension is upheld, then that would be a great benefit to the Cowboys. The Lions would be without Suh and Nick Fairley. Without them on the field together, the Lions are allowing 4.3 yards per carry.

But Murray has been at his best against three of the top-10 ranked rushing defenses he has faced this season. He had 118 yards against the San Francisco 49ers (seventh), 136 yards against the Houston Texans (10th) and 115 yards against the Seattle Seahawks (third).
Interesting. But I would guess that most of those top rushing teams did not have much at QB and could not really beat you through the air.

The passing ability of this offense really sets it apart.
 

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I think I'd prefer Suh as well although we clearly have a bigger hole at DE.
Another thing about this, like it or not we already filled this hole with Lawrence.

DT and DT depth is the #1 need on this team. A true pass rusher is a luxury. Give me a stout front first and foremost.

Interesting. But I would guess that most of those top rushing teams did not have much at QB and could not really beat you through the air.

The passing ability of this offense really sets it apart.
Yep. Those offenses didn't have anything close to Romo/Dez/Witten.
 

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I was just coming to suggest that we should consider signing Suh in the off-season. I see Geng beat me to it.
I know he's All World, but do you really want to deal with the shit show? Is he worth the hassle?
 

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I was just coming to suggest that we should consider signing Suh in the off-season. I see Geng beat me to it.
I could be wrong but I feel like Suh would have the type of impact on this defense that Haley did in 92.

I don't know if the money could work, but I think if it happened it would be huge.
 

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I know he's All World, but do you really want to deal with the shit show? Is he worth the hassle?
Yes.

If he's Josh Brent it's not worth it.

If he's Lawrence Taylor or Warren Sapp, definitely worth it as long as they play at an elite level.
 

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Another thing about this, like it or not we already filled this hole with Lawrence.

DT and DT depth is the #1 need on this team. A true pass rusher is a luxury. Give me a stout front first and foremost.
Crawford is the best D-lineman we have on the team and he plays the three technique. That spot is the least of our concerns on the D-line and lets face it, the other DT spot in this defense just isn't that big of an impact position. So yeah having no DEs and and filling it with a single second round pick doesn't make much sense. Even if Lawrence becomes and excellent starter we are still weak at the other DE spot. I like what Mincey has done but he isn't starting material. He should be stout depth.
 

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I've come to realize the DE position is enabled by the interior linemen collapsing the pocket. When the interior is strong, everything else can happen. Dallas had the deepest DTs in the league from 1992-1995 and had the #1 defense most of that time. They weren't special at edge sacks, but still dominated.
Pressure up the middle in the QB's face or as soon as the RB gets the ball is just incredibly disruptive.
 

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Pressure up the middle in the QB's face or as soon as the RB gets the ball is just incredibly disruptive.
It also cripples an offense's balance and can destroy a gameplan all by itself.
 

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Crawford is the best D-lineman we have on the team and he plays the three technique. That spot is the least of our concerns on the D-line and lets face it, the other DT spot in this defense just isn't that big of an impact position. So yeah having no DEs and and filling it with a single second round pick doesn't make much sense. Even if Lawrence becomes and excellent starter we are still weak at the other DE spot. I like what Mincey has done but he isn't starting material. He should be stout depth.
Mincey'd be fine as LDE; probably his best fit.

Putting Suh at 1 technique makes it an impact position. I trust Marinelli to structure the DL so the best players play. Suh can both stop the run and apply pressure from either DT position.

IMO talent supersedes nuances in position.

They can draft another RDE if they want, though IMO it would be a Spencer/Bobby situation where they just admit they blew it with Demarcus Lawrence.
 
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