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No doubt Manziel is limited, but you just have to trust that his free wheeling can be harnessed and he goes through his reads like a QB is supposed to. Romo has been excellent staying within himself and running the offense, but playground Tony was effective too. He started out much more playground than disciplined at the beginning of his career too, so players can be taught. Maybe Manziel can be disciplined enough to let the offense play out, then get all JFF in the place.

I did not expect much from Romo or the team this year, so part of my love for Manziel was just the shot in the arm he would have brought the franchise. Now he would be more of an experiment that maybe just pays off.
 
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Carp said:
No doubt Manziel is limited, but you just have to trust that his free wheeling can be harnessed and he goes through his reads like a QB is supposed to. Romo has been excellent staying within himself and running the offense, but playground Tony was effective too. He started out much more playground than disciplined at the beginning of his career too, so players can be taught. Maybe Manziel can be disciplined enough to let the offense play out, then get all JFF in the place.

I did not expect much from Romo or the team this year, so part of my love for Manziel was just the shot in the arm he would have brought the franchise. Now he would be more of an experiment that maybe just pays off.
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I also see a lot of Romo in the way Manziel plays. With a good running game and the right coaching, he potentially could make some of the same kinds of plays.
 
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I think there's a big difference between having a Rod Marinelli to help out a LBer and the clowns we have to develop QBs. If Sean Payton wanted to take a flyer on Manziel it would make sense. Dallas just doesn't have the coaching.
 
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Carp said:
No doubt Manziel is limited, but you just have to trust that his free wheeling can be harnessed and he goes through his reads like a QB is supposed to. Romo has been excellent staying within himself and running the offense, but playground Tony was effective too. He started out much more playground than disciplined at the beginning of his career too, so players can be taught. Maybe Manziel can be disciplined enough to let the offense play out, then get all JFF in the place.

I did not expect much from Romo or the team this year, so part of my love for Manziel was just the shot in the arm he would have brought the franchise. Now he would be more of an experiment that maybe just pays off.
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The problem I see with all that is that I don't trust Manziel to have the maturity or intelligence to drive him to become what Romo has worked hard to become. Romo was always a mature, stable person.

This is why stories like this and the Vegas one are so troubling with regard to trusting Manziel. He has demonstrated multiple times an alarming lack of maturity. And maturity is something he desperatelyneeds if he is going to become the player people are hoping he can be.
 
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Genghis Khan said:
The problem I see with all that is that I don't trust Manziel to have the maturity or intelligence to drive him to become what Romo has worked hard to become. Romo was always a mature, stable person.

This is why stories like this and the Vegas one are so troubling with regard to trusting Manziel. He has demonstrated multiple times an alarming lack of maturity. And maturity is something he desperatelyneeds if he is going to become the player people are hoping he can be.
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You sound pretty biased.
 
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Carp said:
I did not expect much from Romo or the team this year, so part of my love for Manziel was just the shot in the arm he would have brought the franchise. Now he would be more of an experiment that maybe just pays off.
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That's exactly how I felt about it too.

While I probably wouldn't have wanted him that high if we were run like a normal organization, I still do think he's worth giving up a 2nd for in hopes that he may turn out ok, and at least then we'll have a young QB to turn the reigns over to.
 
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Genghis Khan said:
The problem I see with all that is that I don't trust Manziel to have the maturity or intelligence to drive him to become what Romo has worked hard to become. Romo was always a mature, stable person.

This is why stories like this and the Vegas one are so troubling with regard to trusting Manziel. He has demonstrated multiple times an alarming lack of maturity. And maturity is something he desperatelyneeds if he is going to become the player people are hoping he can be.
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He has to be broken down...he comes from being the biggest star, Heisman, Johnny Football...while Romo was undrafted from E. ILL. Romo had to put in that extra effort just to make a roster, while JFF feels entitled. He will either get it or won't.
 
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He has to be broken down...he comes from being the biggest star, Heisman, Johnny Football...while Romo was undrafted from E. ILL. Romo had to put in that extra effort just to make a roster, while JFF feels entitled. He will either get it or won't.
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That's true but it is a big risk.
 
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townsend said:
I think there's a big difference between having a Rod Marinelli to help out a LBer and the clowns we have to develop QBs. If Sean Payton wanted to take a flyer on Manziel it would make sense. Dallas just doesn't have the coaching.
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Interesting point, but I counter that Linehan has reportedly been the first coach to get on Romo's case and actually coach him since Bill. I like the results he's had with Tony and I wouldn't mind letting him try to coach another QB.
 
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skidadl said:
That is true.
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Jerry also said even though he just signed Romo to an extension it's not too soon to be looking for Romos replacement so there is that.
 
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Interesting point, but I counter that Linehan has reportedly been the first coach to get on Romo's case and actually coach him since Bill. I like the results he's had with Tony and I wouldn't mind letting him try to coach another QB.
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If we don't at least try we'll never have one to develop...at some point we have to...saying we just have a bunch of clowns on the staff is a crutch.
 
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