2014 College Football Chatter...

[Rev]

That pretty much sums it up for me as well and I'm not even a Sooner fan. Just what I observe.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I think he's incredibly overrated. His recruiting has gotten worse over the years, he's a horrible big game coach, and he's one of the worst I've ever seen at making in game adjustments. While the win over 'Bama was sweet, I knew all it would do is reinforce the idea that Stoops is one of the game's best coaches. It's been about 15 years since OU won a national championship, and his bowl record (BCS, namely) is atrocious. But, he keeps pumping out 2-3 loss seasons against a weak conference, usually losing to at least one of the very, very small group of teams in the Big 12 that are actually competitive.

But he gets showered with praise because of reputation and tenure. I have high standards for the Sooners. Eeking out Big 12 championships and not much else doesn't do it for me, nor should it any other OU fan.

I hear you but don't all together share the same sentiments. My biggest objection is similar to yours as to the post season games but his conference record and number of championships are stand alone accomplishments. I really don't have any idea who could do better.

 

[DontCryWolfe]

I hear you but don't all together share the same sentiments. My biggest objection is similar to yours as to the post season games but his conference record and number of championships are stand alone accomplishments. I really don't have any idea who could do better.

And that is also maddening, because you're right about finding someone better. No program would ever can a Bob Stoops, with his record as you pointed out. But Big 12 titles and conference domination are usually the icing on the cakes that are national championships. Maybe I just haven't gotten over 55-19, Boise St., or losing to a WVU team whose head coach bolted right before the bowl game. All in all, I see a team that is growing less competitive in the national landscape, not to mention it's own conference. How long before Texas becomes formidable again as well?

I see things getting worse.

 

[DontCryWolfe]

ESPN's Darren Rovell getting raked over the coals for tweeting about ND WR Justin Brent sleeping with pornstar Lisa Ann (hawt) with a picture of ND's conduct policy as it relates to sex.



I truly mean this in the least offensive way possible.... but what a ghey.

 

[Carp]

Paul Finebaum is just a snooty bitch on Gameday.

 

[Deuce]

ESPN's Darren Rovell getting raked over the coals for tweeting about ND WR Justin Brent sleeping with pornstar Lisa Ann (hawt) with a picture of ND's conduct policy as it relates to sex.



I truly mean this in the least offensive way possible.... but what a ghey.

He gets raked over the coals on twitter a couple times of year. He just doesn't seem well liked.

Having said that, he deserves this. No reason to promote punishment to the kid unless the University brings it up first.

 

[1bigfan13]

I think he's incredibly overrated. His recruiting has gotten worse over the years, he's a horrible big game coach, and he's one of the worst I've ever seen at making in game adjustments. While the win over 'Bama was sweet, I knew all it would do is reinforce the idea that Stoops is one of the game's best coaches. It's been about 15 years since OU won a national championship, and his bowl record (BCS, namely) is atrocious. But, he keeps pumping out 2-3 loss seasons against a weak conference, usually losing to at least one of the very, very small group of teams in the Big 12 that are actually competitive.

But he gets showered with praise because of reputation and tenure. I have high standards for the Sooners. Eeking out Big 12 championships and not much else doesn't do it for me, nor should it any other OU fan.

I agree 100%.

Stoops isn't a bad coach but he is very overrated and I think it's time for the Sooners to move on. Even though the program hasn't taken a severe dip like Texas has, I think it's time to move on because the program has grown stagnant. Sticking with Stoops is basically signing up for more 10-3 and 11-2 seasons. Certainly that's a great record for 95% of college football but for certain programs repeatedly losing 2-3 games each year is tiresome.

My biggest problem with the Sooners under Stoops is that there's no forward movement whatsoever. Every years it's the exact same thing.

And where are the elite players? Bradford and Murray were the last great players we've had. Ryan Broyles broke tons of receiving records but I think that was largely due to Landry "Tunnel Vision" Jones constantly forcing pass after pass to Broyles so I wouldn't call him great.

The defense is average at best. The running game has fallen completely apart. QBs aren't being developed. And most of the assistant coaches having average coaching skills; which results in players not being properly developed.

Up until 2008 we always had stud RBs and studs with pro-potential along the OL and DL. Not anymore. Too many years of running the hurry up spread offense garbage, coupled with bad schemes and bad coaching, have resulted in an OL that can't open running lanes for shit.

Also, recruiting has taken a significant step backwards in the last 5-7 years. The Sugar Bowl win gave us a little bump but these days the Sooners rarely land any of the top position players. I think a part of that has to do with stagnating program. T

If we didn't have the benefit of a top 5 preseason ranking I doubt we'd even be ranked in the top 25.

 

[Rev]

Don't forget always losing to Tech in Lubbock....

 

[1bigfan13]

Don't forget always losing to Tech in Lubbock....

Speaking of Tech, I honestly believe a big problem with Stoops is that he's too easily influenced by teams like Baylor and Tech.

Instead of sticking with a style of play and with personnel packages that have led to successful seasons, Stoops and his staff have tried to play copy cat and it hasn't worked out for them.

Take the 2012 season for instance. On defense Oklahoma went with a base defense where they didn't use LBs. It was basically 4 DL and 7 DBs. This dumb decision resulted in opponents killing Oklahoma by running the football. It seemed like we were giving up about 40 ppg. All because they wanted to put more speed on the field because they thought it would help them better defend against spread offenses. Huge failure.

Great teams make their opponent adjust to them not vice versa. It seems that Stoops has forgotten that.

 

[Carp]

Gregory is a damn beast...he reminds me a little of Ware.

 

[skidadl]

Speaking of Tech, I honestly believe a big problem with Stoops is that he's too easily influenced by teams like Baylor and Tech.

Instead of sticking with a style of play and with personnel packages that have led to successful seasons, Stoops and his staff have tried to play copy cat and it hasn't worked out for them.

Take the 2012 season for instance. On defense Oklahoma went with a base defense where they didn't use LBs. It was basically 4 DL and 7 DBs. This dumb decision resulted in opponents killing Oklahoma by running the football. It seemed like we were giving up about 40 ppg. All because they wanted to put more speed on the field because they thought it would help them better defend against spread offenses. Huge failure.

Great teams make their opponent adjust to them not vice versa. It seems that Stoops has forgotten that.

I don't know, man...if you are in a spread conference you have to adjust your defense.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Ameer Abdullah is an absolute stud. The draft next year could be seriously loaded with RBs. At worst it should give us some leverage with Murray.

 

[1bigfan13]

Ameer Abdullah is an absolute stud. The draft next year could be seriously loaded with RBs. At worst it should give us some leverage with Murray.

I'm hoping the stars all align and that Murray stays healthy this year and that he and the Cowboys agree on a sensible contract.

I'd rather not go into the draft needing to grab a RB.

I want the first 4 rounds to be dedicated to adding talent to the defense. DL, LB, and Safety would be my priorities.

Seems like I've said that the last 3 years. LOL

Although, my priorities could be adjusted if Lawrence comes in and plays well and if Crawford continues to play well on the inside.

 

[1bigfan13]

Texas about to get shut out by K-State.

 

[L.T. Fan]

You guys have a short tem memory regarding Stoops. It was miserable for several years with Oklahoma's football program between winning coaches. There was an eternity of bad coaches before Switzer was found then when he left it was another grueling term of wasted years before Stoops was hired. I could go back further with this scenario but most of you were not born. Oklahoma fans a like rich kids. They get too used to the best then that's not enough. Thank your lucky stars that even in the worst years OU is still a winner.I get frustrated at times but it doesn't take long for the memory to kick in.

 

[1bigfan13]

Look at the Red Raiders coming out strong and stuff.

 

[1bigfan13]

And just like that Tech gives the lead up.

It was fun while it lasted.

 

[1bigfan13]

You guys have a short tem memory regarding Stoops. It was miserable for several years with Oklahoma's football program between winning coaches. There was an eternity of bad coaches before Switzer was found then when he left it was another grueling term of wasted years before Stoops was hired. I could go back further with this scenario but most of you were not born. Oklahoma fans a like rich kids. They get too used to the best then that's not enough. Thank your lucky stars that even in the worst years OU is still a winner.I get frustrated at times but it doesn't take long for the memory to kick in.

You're absolutely right. I'm a spoiled fan, I can admit that. Oklahoma will probably finish with a 10-3 record and the season will still be considered a disappointment to me.

As I wrote in my earlier post, the point of frustration with me is that I don't see any improvement in the program. It's become stagnant and I'd even argue that we're regressing.

 

[L.T. Fan]

You're absolutely right. I'm a spoiled fan, I can admit that. Oklahoma will probably finish with a 10-3 record and the season will still be considered a disappointment to me.

As I wrote in my earlier post, the point of frustration with me is that I don't see any improvement in the program. It's become stagnant and I'd even argue that we're regressing.

I'm sure you were aware that Stoops has had the program in a transition mode for the past three years. They went back to the balanced attach approach from the spread after Landry finished with his tenure as QB. Bell was the first phase to the transition but it has been a little shaky for a while. Knight Is the first year of the current plan but the lines and receivers are still a little ways away. I thin next season the process will come to fruition.

 

[1bigfan13]

at Tech defense.