Murray vs Peterson?

[Jiggyfly]

It would be a simple discussion if you'd stop making shit up. I was talking about Peterson, and only Peterson. Stating the case as to why I wouldn't sign him.


Oh, and to refresh your memory...


Where did this happen? Hmmm?

No need to refresh my memory I made a mistake thinking you were comparing the two since that was the original topic.

I still don't understand why you had to get all bent out of shape about it.

 

[Jiggyfly]

I don't see how you can count on Peterson's health over Murray's, all things considered. And I didn't say Peterson was a bad teammate, just that Murray is one of those "guys" Garrett preaches about bringing in, and, well, AP isn't. Also, I highly doubt Murray would carry a price tag that much higher than Peterson. Sure, in Madden this is cool, but I wouldn't care for the move.

What does Madden have to do with anything?

This is a legitimate football question if you had a chance to replace Murray with Peterson would you take it, I understand you would not care for the move but don't act like its some crazy fantasy.

 

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I'd be wary of Adrian Peterson handling another switch.






~tap, tap~

Is this thing on?

 

[NoDak]

No need to refresh my memory I made a mistake thinking you were comparing the two since that was the original topic.

No, their injuries were NOT the original topic. Which one we should sign was. Jesus, you started the thread. How could you not know this? You wouldn't be trying to make shit up again, would you? Here's your original post. Show me where it mentions either players injuries.

I did not think it would happen, but its starting to look more likely that Peterson will be out in Minnesota.

With his age and the controversy surrounding him I don't think it would take more than 5million per to sign him and we know he wants to play here.

So the question is, do you let Murray walk and sign Peterson for 3 years and draft a young middle round guy or sign Murray to about the same money for more years.

I think I would be leaning heavily toward Peterson if the money was equal on a shorter deal.

I still don't understand why you had to get all bent out of shape about it.

Nobody's bent out of shape over anything. Just tired of you making shit up. This certainly isn't the first time you've done it. Only the first time you've admitted to it.

I'm out. Bother somebody else with your stupidity.

 

[DontCryWolfe]

What does Madden have to do with anything?

This is a legitimate football question if you had a chance to replace Murray with Peterson would you take it, I understand you would not care for the move but don't act like its some crazy fantasy.

And I answered your legitimate question. I was saying that this is a move that would make more sense in Madden, than in real life.

 

[Jiggyfly]

No, their injuries were NOT the original topic. Which one we should sign was. Jesus, you started the thread. How could you not know this? You wouldn't be trying to make shit up again, would you? Here's your original post. Show me where it mentions either players injuries.



Nobody's bent out of shape over anything. Just tired of you making shit up. This certainly isn't the first time you've done it. Only the first time you've admitted to it.

I'm out. Bother somebody else with your stupidity.

 

[Jiggyfly]

And I answered your legitimate question. I was saying that this is a move that would make more sense in Madden, than in real life.

How is that?

What about this does not make sense?

The only reason you have given is because you like the fact that Murray is unselfish, please explain why this only makes sense in Madden.

 

[DontCryWolfe]

How is that?

What about this does not make sense?

The only reason you have given is because you like the fact that Murray is unselfish, please explain why this only makes sense in Madden.

Seriously? I've already posted as much, as has everyone else who weighed in.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Seriously? I've already posted as much, as has everyone else who weighed in.

Nobody but you injected Madden into to conversation, and no you have not explained why this would not work in real life.

 

[DontCryWolfe]

I don't see how you can count on Peterson's health over Murray's, all things considered. And I didn't say Peterson was a bad teammate, just that Murray is one of those "guys" Garrett preaches about bringing in, and, well, AP isn't. Also, I highly doubt Murray would carry a price tag that much higher than Peterson. Sure, in Madden this is cool, but I wouldn't care for the move.

If you're wondering if I think it is possible for Adrian Peterson to line up at RB and play for the Dallas Cowboys, then yeah man, it's possible. But, as I've already stated, AP has an injury history about as extensive as Murray's (hell, one of the knocks on Peterson coming out of college was that he was injury prone), so while you can act like that is some big advantage he holds over Murray, it isn't. Then you factor age into the equation, and the idea of dropping Murray for AP becomes even less attractive. Then, the price. Despite his off the field issues he's had this year, Peterson is still going to command a decent dollar. And I'm sure there are teams out there more willing than we would be to shed such coin for him. I don't think you're looking at a gigantic price difference between the two players.

And then, you have the character concerns. Hitting the kid with a switch, yeah, it's old school, it was how he was brought up, blah blah blah. I can look past that. It's the reports that he used his own charity money to fund orgies, and getting high while on bail that have to raise some red flags. Murray has been, and continues to be, nothing but a class act. Plus, who knows what a year off is going to do to a player? I'll tell you what I do know; Murray is the best RB in football right now. The offensive line in front of him isn't going anywhere, and it's going to get better. But if you think walking away from all that, bringing in a 30 year old guy who either knowingly just about pissed his career down the drain, or is just that ignorant, is a good idea, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Jiggyfly]

If you're wondering if I think it is possible for Adrian Peterson to line up at RB and play for the Dallas Cowboys, then yeah man, it's possible. But, as I've already stated, AP has an injury history about as extensive as Murray's (hell, one of the knocks on Peterson coming out of college was that he was injury prone), so while you can act like that is some big advantage he holds over Murray, it isn't. Then you factor age into the equation, and the idea of dropping Murray for AP becomes even less attractive. Then, the price. Despite his off the field issues he's had this year, Peterson is still going to command a decent dollar. And I'm sure there are teams out there more willing than we would be to shed such coin for him. I don't think you're looking at a gigantic price difference between the two players.

And then, you have the character concerns. Hitting the kid with a switch, yeah, it's old school, it was how he was brought up, blah blah blah. I can look past that. It's the reports that he used his own charity money to fund orgies, and getting high while on bail that have to raise some red flags. Murray has been, and continues to be, nothing but a class act. Plus, who knows what a year off is going to do to a player? I'll tell you what I do know; Murray is the best RB in football right now. The offensive line in front of him isn't going anywhere, and it's going to get better. But if you think walking away from all that, bringing in a 30 year old guy who either knowingly just about pissed his career down the drain, or is just that ignorant, is a good idea, then I don't know what to tell you.

All legitimate arguments and none of them have anything to do with "This is not Madden".

Just did not understand why you injected Madden into this like its not a legitimately debateable idea.

Yes Peterson has some drawbacks but that's the only reason he would be available, tell me this who do you think is the better pure RB?

 

[DontCryWolfe]

All legitimate arguments and none of them have anything to do with "This is not Madden".

Just did not understand why you injected Madden into this like its not a legitimately debateable idea.

Yes Peterson has some drawbacks but that's the only reason he would be available, tell me this who do you think is the better pure RB?

Holy shit dude, all I said was that in my opinion this is a move that makes more sense in Madden than it does in real life, and all my last post did was elaborate on points I had already made previously.

As for the better "pure" RB, if that's where you want to draw the line, no one is going to argue that AP is, or was, the more talented back. He was on his way to having an argument for top 3, at least. But, there are a lot of maybe's, and used to be's in that line of reasoning. You can't look at it as who is the better pure back, because by the time he suits up again, I have no idea how Peterson will look. Nobody does. There are too many mitigating circumstances. Sure, who wouldn't want an AP in his prime running behind our line? But that's not the reality.

 

[boozeman]

Holy shit dude, all I said was that in my opinion this is a move that makes more sense in Madden than it does in real life, and all my last post did was elaborate on points I had already made previously.

As for the better "pure" RB, if that's where you want to draw the line, no one is going to argue that AP is, or was, the more talented back. He was on his way to having an argument for top 3, at least. But, there are a lot of maybe's, and used to be's in that line of reasoning. You can't look at it as who is the better pure back, because by the time he suits up again, I have no idea how Peterson will look. Nobody does. There are too many mitigating circumstances. Sure, who wouldn't want an AP in his prime running behind our line? But that's not the reality.

You just got Jiggyied.

 

[DontCryWolfe]

You just got Jiggyied.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Holy shit dude, all I said was that in my opinion this is a move that makes more sense in Madden than it does in real life, and all my last post did was elaborate on points I had already made previously.

As for the better "pure" RB, if that's where you want to draw the line, no one is going to argue that AP is, or was, the more talented back. He was on his way to having an argument for top 3, at least. But, there are a lot of maybe's, and used to be's in that line of reasoning. You can't look at it as who is the better pure back, because by the time he suits up again, I have no idea how Peterson will look. Nobody does. There are too many mitigating circumstances. Sure, who wouldn't want an AP in his prime running behind our line? But that's not the reality.

When you invoke Madden its usually because the money does not work or the production has fallen way off neither fits here.

This was a discussion about the pros and cons there are no certainties, its easily possible Peterson has 3 good years left in him especially behind this line.

 

[Cotton]

If you're wondering if I think it is possible for Adrian Peterson to line up at RB and play for the Dallas Cowboys, then yeah man, it's possible. But, as I've already stated, AP has an injury history about as extensive as Murray's (hell, one of the knocks on Peterson coming out of college was that he was injury prone), so while you can act like that is some big advantage he holds over Murray, it isn't. Then you factor age into the equation, and the idea of dropping Murray for AP becomes even less attractive. Then, the price. Despite his off the field issues he's had this year, Peterson is still going to command a decent dollar. And I'm sure there are teams out there more willing than we would be to shed such coin for him. I don't think you're looking at a gigantic price difference between the two players.

And then, you have the character concerns. Hitting the kid with a switch, yeah, it's old school, it was how he was brought up, blah blah blah. I can look past that. It's the reports that he used his own charity money to fund orgies, and getting high while on bail that have to raise some red flags. Murray has been, and continues to be, nothing but a class act. Plus, who knows what a year off is going to do to a player? I'll tell you what I do know; Murray is the best RB in football right now. The offensive line in front of him isn't going anywhere, and it's going to get better. But if you think walking away from all that, bringing in a 30 year old guy who either knowingly just about pissed his career down the drain, or is just that ignorant, is a good idea, then I don't know what to tell you.

This is a thread-ender right here. POTD

 

[Jiggyfly]

You just got Jiggyied.

Dam it I was trying to see how far he would go.

 

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I agree. This is not Madden.

 

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Eddie George

 

[Plan9Misfit]

I'd rather just draft Todd Gurley when he falls in the draft due to his suspension.