The Morning After: Cowboys 31, Giants 21

boozeman

28 Years And Counting...
Staff member
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
122,837
I agree. I had zero faith in that defense in 2007. I actually have a little bit of faith in this one holding a lead.
That is where you and I are different. I am still not 100% sold on the holding a lead part. Maybe that is the battered woman thing coming out, but eventually our lack of a pass rush has to come out eventually. Or worse, someone finally figures out a way to stop Murray and the ground game.
 

Cotton

One-armed Knife Sharpener
Staff member
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
120,230
That is where you and I are different. I am still not 100% sold on the holding a lead part. Maybe that is the battered woman thing coming out, but eventually our lack of a pass rush has to come out eventually. Or worse, someone finally figures out a way to stop Murray and the ground game.
Yeah, I'm hoping beyond hope that Lawrence will solve the pass rush thing. Our season may hinge on him. Said that before the season and it is very apparent now.
 

boozeman

28 Years And Counting...
Staff member
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
122,837
Yeah, I'm hoping beyond hope that Lawrence will solve the pass rush thing. Our season may hinge on him. Said that before the season and it is very apparent now.
If Lawrence comes back and in his first game gets a sack, I will lose my mind.
 

Cotton

One-armed Knife Sharpener
Staff member
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
120,230
I think that was about as weak of a closing schedule we could have had save the GB game. I think we will have problems with Indy and Arizona...both are playing good football and are about as confident as we are right now.
I'm a little bit scared of both Eagle games, too.
 

ravidubey

DCC 4Life
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
20,214
I agree. I had zero faith in that defense in 2007. I actually have a little bit of faith in this one holding a lead.
They gave up a huge TD on 3rd down to Amani Toomer (after a BOGUS offsides on Ware made it 3rd and 1).

But the biggest travesty was how Jaques Reeves became Eli Manning's bitch with :47 seconds remaining in the 1st half and Dallas up 14-7. NY drove the length of the field and tied the game despite the Cowboys chewing up most of the first half on two long drives to score 14 unanswered points.
 

boozeman

28 Years And Counting...
Staff member
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
122,837
I'm a little bit scared of both Eagle games, too.
I think splitting with them should be a very reasonable expectation. We are tough to beat on Thanksgiving and the second game should have a better Dallas DL with Brent and Lawrence possibly back.
 

boozeman

28 Years And Counting...
Staff member
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
122,837
They gave up a huge TD on 3rd down to Amani Toomer (after a BOGUS offsides on Ware made it 3rd and 1).

But the biggest travesty was how Jaques Reeves became Eli Manning's bitch with :47 seconds remaining in the 1st half and Dallas up 14-7. NY drove the length of the field and tied the game despite the Cowboys chewing up most of the first half on two long drives to score 14 unanswered points.
Everyone jumps on Reeves and I get that. But the biggest problem in that game was our lack of balls. The OL let the Giants DL impose their will on them when frankly they were good enough and bad enough to come out and do the same had we felt like doing that.

I also think the limited availability of Owens hurt, plus, you know, Cabo.
 

ravidubey

DCC 4Life
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
20,214
Everyone jumps on Reeves and I get that. But the biggest problem in that game was our lack of balls. The OL let the Giants DL impose their will on them when frankly they were good enough and bad enough to come out and do the same had we felt like doing that.

I also think the limited availability of Owens hurt, plus, you know, Cabo.
Gurode was hurt, and New York run blitzed the interior. Then it was all pass-pass-pass-pass despite the running game having dominated the first half.

The Cabo thing was bullshit. Romo looked uncomfortable in the pocket for the first time all year.

But yeah, that OL was stupid for getting bad penalties at exactly the wrong time. Marc Columbo's holding penalty with Barber driving against New England, and Leonard Davis' utterly braindead personal foul against Michael Strahan just as Romo was getting his groove back vs NY.

Still doesn't excuse Reeves and the secondary in general. 47 seconds on the clock... unbelievable.
 

Smitty

DCC 4Life
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
22,557
Also Dez > 2007 TO
Actually, I'm not entirely sure I agree with that. It's close.

Owens just got wide open all year long, intermediate and deep. Bryant is great but I am not sure he is quite as explosive as Owens was that year. That's not a slight, Owens was probably one of the two best WRs in the league that year.
 
Last edited:

data

Forbes #1
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
50,457
Actually, I'm not entirely sure I agree with that. It's close.

Owens just got wide open all year long, intermediate and deep. Bryant is great but I am not sure he is quite as explosive as Owens was that year. That's not a slight, Owens was probably one of the two best WRs in the league that year.
I do agree that Romo's arm was livelier in 2007. If 2007 TO played with 2014 Romo, there wouldn't be as many intermediate and deep passes.
 

hstour

Brand New Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2014
Messages
625
The thing that linked with what I have seen is their ability on 3rd down. Not just on offense but on defense. They are moving the chains on offense and preventing the chains from moving on defense. People like to talk about how the yards per play are as bad as they were last year. But they aren't giving up the 1st down and are getting off the field.

When you can keep the ball and force the other team to give it up, then good things "should" happen.
 

Cowboysrock55

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 7, 2013
Messages
52,965
Actually, I'm not entirely sure I agree with that. It's close.

Owens just got wide open all year long, intermediate and deep. Bryant is great but I am not sure he is quite as explosive as Owens was that year. That's not a slight, Owens was probably one of the two best WRs in the league that year.
Owens was really explosive. His hands weren't anywhere close to that of Dez Bryant though. Bryant's ability to play the ball and the wide array of catches he can make exceeds anything Owens was capable of. In terms of pure explosive speed though I'd give Owens the edge. Overall I'd take Dez.
 
Top Bottom