Am I Being Realistic

[jsmith6919]

That was in Feburary. I think the way they have modified Romo is before he was given 2 plays. One a run and one a pass. Romo could opt for either. Now the system is Romo is still given two pays but there are two pass pays or two run pays. With this system when a run is called it will be a run of one or the other. The same for passing. This has modified Romo's ability to discard the run.

I don't think it's as basic as just giving Romo two running plays so he can't check out of it, Jerry gave an interview with Matt Mosely on 103.3 after the Saints game and where I heard this

Jerry was going on about how Linehan actually adjusts the plays/playcalling during the game and that is something we have never done while Romo has been here

Jerry also said that Tony is listening to Linehan when he tells him "don't do that" and that he has been pretty hard on him in practice(which I think Romo has needed since Parcells left) so I really think Tony is buying in to committing to the run.

 

[Smitty]

But the beauty of ground and pound is that it protects our weak defense, too. The NO game is the perfect example. Long, time consuming drives that result in points, especially in the first half, are huge. They keep our defense off the field, make the other team's offense more one dimensional, and tire out the other team's defense, making our 2nd half running game that much more effective.

The longer our offense is on the field, the more chance we have of success.

Sure, but I suspect over time that teams are gonna say "we aren't gonna let you beat us like this."

At some point this season I suspect passing will become more effective. Not saying we'll stop running though. 480 is still a shit ton.

 

[Cotton]

I don't think it's as basic as just giving Romo two running plays so he can't check out of it, Jerry gave an interview with Matt Mosely on 103.3 after the Saints game and where I heard this

Jerry also said that Tony is listening to Linehan when he tells him "don't do that" and that he has been pretty hard on him in practice(which I think Romo has needed since Parcells left) so I really think Tony is buying in to committing to the run.

If that's the case, then there is your solid proof that Garrett A) didn't hold Romo's feet to the fire for checking out of plays or B) never adjusted mid-game. (which we already knew anyway)

 

[L.T. Fan]

I don't think it's as basic as just giving Romo two running plays so he can't check out of it, Jerry gave an interview with Matt Mosely on 103.3 after the Saints game and where I heard this

Jerry also said that Tony is listening to Linehan when he tells him "don't do that" and that he has been pretty hard on him in practice(which I think Romo has needed since Parcells left) so I really think Tony is buying in to committing to the run.

Romo is obviously listening but he has also been reeled in some by this system. It keeps the play in its original state of intent by the OC.

 

[Clay_Allison]

Sure, but I suspect over time that teams are gonna say "we aren't gonna let you beat us like this."

At some point this season I suspect passing will become more effective. Not saying we'll stop running though. 480 is still a shit ton.

We proved in the NO game that they can't load 8-9 in the box every play and dare us to pass. Dez, Witten, and Williams are too much to cover if they sell out to stop the run and are biting on play action.

Now that Garrett's not running the offense, they can't just manipulate him into abandoning the run by showing 8 in the box and playing pass all the way, knowing he will let Romo check out. With Linehan calling the plays, they will have to play to defend the run first in order to stop the run.

 

[ravidubey]

Sure, but I suspect over time that teams are gonna say "we aren't gonna let you beat us like this."

At some point this season I suspect passing will become more effective. Not saying we'll stop running though. 480 is still a shit ton.

Dallas actually passed to set up the run vs New Orleans.

Murray's first two runs netted a yard each mixed in with passes for 15, 6, and 16 yards to multiple targets with one incompletion. Murray's next run was a whole 2 yards, then Romo passed for 9 and then 8 to his 5th different receiver on just that drive.

Murray busted one for 11 then got stuffed for -1 before Romo hit Williams for the TD.

By spreading the ball and passing successfully they forced the Saints to back out of the box.

Murray started blowing up after that which in combination with Williams' success finally opened up Dez.

This is the way the 90's teams operated, passing to set up Emmitt. Defenses couldn't hone in on a single threat.

 

[dallen]

Dallas actually passed to set up the run vs New Orleans.

Murray's first two runs netted a yard each mixed in with passes for 15, 6, and 16 yards to multiple targets with one incompletion. Murray's next run was a whole 2 yards, then Romo passed for 9 and then 8 to his 5th different receiver on just that drive.

Murray busted one for 11 then got stuffed for -1 before Romo hit Williams for the TD.

By spreading the ball and passing successfully they forced the Saints to back out of the box.

Murray started blowing up after that which in combination with Williams' success finally opened up Dez.

This is the way the 90's teams operated, passing to set up Emmitt. Defenses couldn't hone in on a single threat.

That was what was beautiful about that team. Between Emmitt, Irvin, Novachek, and Harper teams couldn't stop our offense. Stack the line and Irvin and Novachek had one on one coverage. Double team Irvin and Novachek, and Emmitt would run all over you while Harper beat you deep. Take away Irvin and Emmitt and Troy would just methodically work down the field with Novachek and Harper. 3 great players and 2 consistent contributors all held together by a dominant oline and one of the most versatile fullbacks in football.

 

[ravidubey]

That was what was beautiful about that team. Between Emmitt, Irvin, Novachek, and Harper teams couldn't stop our offense. Stack the line and Irvin and Novachek had one on one coverage. Double team Irvin and Novachek, and Emmitt would run all over you while Harper beat you deep. Take away Irvin and Emmitt and Troy would just methodically work down the field with Novachek and Harper. 3 great players and 2 consistent contributors all held together by a dominant oline and one of the most versatile fullbacks in football.

It was awesome to watch. If a team today scores 30 or more, it might be a pass-happy attack and several quick scores but not necessarily a dominant performance. If Dallas in those days scored 30 on you, they destroyed your defense while leaving their own defense fresh leaving no doubt who was the better team.

Dallas' 35-0 beating of the Giants in NY in the 1995 MNF opener was about as dominating a performance as I've ever seen... right under the 44-0 beating the Bears gave Dallas in 1985.

BTW, Whitten is the new Novachek :)

 

[dallen]

It was awesome to watch. If a team today scores 30 or more, it might be a pass-happy attack and several quick scores but not necessarily a dominant performance. If Dallas in those days scored 30 on you, they destroyed your defense while leaving their own defense fresh leaving no doubt who was the better team.

Dallas' 35-0 beating of the Giants in NY in the 1995 MNF opener was about as dominating a performance as I've ever seen... right under the 44-0 beating the Bears gave Dallas in 1985.

BTW, Whitten is the new Novachek :)

All great tight ends have hidden h's in their names

 

[dallen]

Shannhon Sharphe, Tohny Gonzhalez, Jahson Whitten, Jahy Novachek, Mhike Ditkha, Jackhie Smithh

 

[Clay_Allison]

It was awesome to watch. If a team today scores 30 or more, it might be a pass-happy attack and several quick scores but not necessarily a dominant performance. If Dallas in those days scored 30 on you, they destroyed your defense while leaving their own defense fresh leaving no doubt who was the better team.

Dallas' 35-0 beating of the Giants in NY in the 1995 MNF opener was about as dominating a performance as I've ever seen... right under the 44-0 beating the Bears gave Dallas in 1985.

BTW, Whitten is the new Novachek :)

Witten is better than Jay ever was, and I was a huge fan of Novachek back in the day. Witten is a great blocker and Novachek was at best a "willing" blocker.

 

[superpunk]

there is no H in Novacek

that's the joke

 

[L.T. Fan]

Witten is better than Jay ever was, and I was a huge fan of Novachek back in the day. Witten is a great blocker and Novachek was at best a "willing" blocker.

I said that about 11 years ago and was severely ridiculed.

 

[ravidubey]

I said that about 11 years ago and was severely ridiculed.

You were spot on my friend.

Spot. On.

 

[Clay_Allison]

I said that about 11 years ago and was severely ridiculed.

I wasn't among those ridiculing you. I always thought the best ever TE was Ditka because he was a beast as a receiver and he blocked like an offensive tackle. Witten is like a throwback to those days.

 

[boozeman]

I don't think it's as basic as just giving Romo two running plays so he can't check out of it, Jerry gave an interview with Matt Mosely on 103.3 after the Saints game and where I heard this

Jerry also said that Tony is listening to Linehan when he tells him "don't do that" and that he has been pretty hard on him in practice(which I think Romo has needed since Parcells left) so I really think Tony is buying in to committing to the run.

Great stuff. More evidence that Romo's handling since Garrett has been around has been horrific. Who knows how much better he (and the team) could have been with a real offensive coordinator and QB coach since Parcells left.

 

[Simpleton]

Great stuff. More evidence that Romo's handling since Garrett has been around has been horrific. Who knows how much better he (and the team) could have been with a real offensive coordinator and QB coach since Parcells left.

Yea, we completely wasted the prime of a potentially great QB because Jerry failed to properly build an OL to protect the guy/ease his burden and to hire a coach who can keep him on the right path. I have no doubt that Romo is a hard worker, great teammate and so on, but every player needs a little kick in the ass every now and again, and God knows Garrett's fuckboi self didn't want to compromise his bro time with Romo in the offseason by doing that.

 

[jsmith6919]

Great stuff. More evidence that Romo's handling since Garrett has been around has been horrific. Who knows how much better he (and the team) could have been with a real offensive coordinator and QB coach since Parcells left.

Along that same line, Laufenberg had interviewed Gruden a few years back and Gruden had asked which coach got on Romo during practice, Wilson or Garrett, to which Babe replied nobody does. Gruden then said that's not good, not good at all. ~paraphrasing~