Machota - Jerry: Cowboys are glitz and glamour

[jsmith6919]

Then why doesn't he make the moves to make that happen? Because he doesn't know how is the obvious answer, but the more accurate answer to me is that he doesn't care because he is the second most profitable sports empire in the world.

It's obvious he doesn't know how but I wouldn't say Jerry doesn't want to win, it's just that he wants to win in a way where he finally gets credit.

 

[Simpleton]

It's very obvious that Jerry wants to win but only in a manner where he is the center of attention and receives the credit for building the team. There is literally nothing in place to hold him accountable so when he fails all he has to do is delude himself with some new line of bullshit about looking in the mirror.

He wants to win, there is no doubting that, but only his way.

The only hope now is that he dies relatively soon and after a few years of failing miserably Stephen says fuck it and runs the team in a more conventional manner, so maybe by about 2026 or so.

 

[Carp]

Then why doesn't he make the moves to make that happen? Because he doesn't know how is the obvious answer, but the more accurate answer to me is that he doesn't care because he is the second most profitable sports empire in the world.

You nailed it with the doesn't know how part...the second part is wrong.

 

[Cotton]

It's obvious he doesn't know how but I wouldn't say Jerry doesn't want to win, it's just that he wants to win in a way where he finally gets credit.

I would agree with that, but in that same line of thought, if he doesn't win his way (which apparently he can't), does winning take precedence over money? I'm guessing no. He does want to win to make himself look better, but if he can win just enough to keep himself as the 2nd most profitable sports franchise in the world, he is fine with it.

Why wouldn't he be?

 

[Carp]

I would agree with that, but in that same line of thought, if he doesn't win his way (which apparently he can't), does winning take precedence over money? I'm guessing no. He does want to win to make himself look better, but if he can win just enough to keep himself as the 2nd most profitable sports franchise in the world, he is fine with it.

Why wouldn't he be?

Because he is greedy and wants more, but he does not know how to win. His ego would be fed even more.

 

[Cotton]

You nailed it with the doesn't know how part...the second part is wrong.

I don't agree with you. I think he is perfectly happy sitting as a billionaire so long as his billions keep coming in. I think that is obvious.

 

[Cotton]

Because he is greedy and wants more, but he does not know how to win. His ego would be fed even more.

Nah, he has shown many times over that he hasn't tried to win to increase monies. And, the biggest, and one that can't be countered is him not firing the GM. Yes, he may want to win his way, but not bad enough to drop his ego and let someone else take over. So, as long as he is making billions, he doesn't give a damn about winning.

 

[Carp]

I don't agree with you. I think he is perfectly happy sitting as a billionaire so long as his billions keep coming in. I think that is obvious.

Cool. The Cowboys would gain fans and make more money if they won more. Not even worthy of a debate.

 

[Carp]

Nah, he has shown many times over that he hasn't tried to win to increase monies. And, the biggest, and one that can't be countered is him not firing the GM. Yes, he may want to win his way, but not bad enough to drop his ego and let someone else take over. So, as long as he is making billions, he doesn't give a damn about winning.

He has tried to win, just did not make the right moves. If he was only interested in money he would not be up against the cap every year.

 

[data]

"We did it OUR way, baby"

Forbes reports the Cowboys revenue as $560M. Jerry "cares" about winning, but sitting pretty as Forbes #2 franchise in the world, he doesn't care about winning enough to step down.

He's already said he'd fire a GM with his track record.

It isn't worth the ego-check for the additional revenue Jerry would make from a more successful Cowboys, led by a real GM.

 

[Clay_Allison]

It's possible Jerry could luck out with a coaching hire. IMO, if Payton hadn't been offered the Saints job and he had taken over for Parcells in 2007, he could have led that team to the Super Bowl (Wade F'n Phillips got them to 13-3 FFS).

Jerry fell in love with the idea that Jason Garrett could be the Sean Payton that got away, but instead of an offensive innovator that learned from Parcells he got a guy with a Norv Turner starter kit offense and no coaching experience who asks every coach he meets how to do his job because he has no idea what he's doing.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Then why doesn't he make the moves to make that happen? Because he doesn't know how is the obvious answer, but the more accurate answer to me is that he doesn't care because he is the second most profitable sports empire in the world.

The reason he doesn't step away is simple. His ego will not allow it because if he steps down then he has admitted he has been a failure. That is not in his options. He will stay to the end. He had rather lose some money than admit he couldn't get the job done. That is a common trait among wealthy people. They have been successful so they think they can automatically do anything they undertake to do.

 

[Carp]

Would the Cowboys make more money if they won more. Yes. Would Jerry like more money. Yes.

GSM, Me

 

[Rev]

Simp is actually correct. He wants to win his way. Now you can take it farther and say that his way doesn't work (and that's proven) and then technically he doesn't really want to win.

 

[Texas Ace]

One goes with the other...he could market even more if his team was successful, unfortunately he does not know how to be a GM.

He doesn't know talent, but he damn sure knows who the successful coaches are and how those coaches choose to run their teams, and he just won't allow that.

Like Geng said, he might care, but not enough to make the changes that are necessary.

 

[Carp]

He doesn't know talent, but he damn sure knows who the successful coaches are and how those coaches choose to run their teams, and he just won't allow that.

Like Geng said, he might care, but not enough to make the changes that are necessary.

To him they are not necessary changes...he thinks his way will work. It is flawed thinking, but in his mind he is doing everything to win.

 

[jsmith6919]

I would agree with that, but in that same line of thought, if he doesn't win his way (which apparently he can't), does winning take precedence over money? I'm guessing no. He does want to win to make himself look better, but if he can win just enough to keep himself as the 2nd most profitable sports franchise in the world, he is fine with it.

Why wouldn't he be?

I don't think it's so much that winning doesn't take precedence over money, it's that the Cowboy's are profitable enough to allow him to continue to do it his way.

 

[bbgun]

btw, what the hell is "glitzy or glamorous" about this team? the fucking stadium? gimme Seattle's "inferior" stadium and their fans any day.

 

[L.T. Fan]

btw, what the hell is "glitzy or glamorous" about this team? the fucking stadium? gimme Seattle's "inferior" stadium and their fans any day.

There has always been a glitz and glamour element to this franchise and it stated long before Jones was the owner. One of the first elements to put it in that category was the cheerleaders. Another thing was the open top stadium. The media grabbed onto the America's team phrase and pumped the airways with the public hype.

 

[Cotton]

The reason he doesn't step away is simple. His ego will not allow it because if he steps down then he has admitted he has been a failure. That is not in his options. He will stay to the end. He had rather lose some money than admit he couldn't get the job done. That is a common trait among wealthy people. They have been successful so they think they can automatically do anything they undertake to do.

Yep. This is my whole point. He could make more money if he won, but he won't make that extra money because he refuses to do what it truly takes TO win.