DeMarcus Lawrence out 8-10 weeks

[Deuce]

There is a short-term IR now, maybe we can put him on that, not sure what the rules are though.

I think that means missing 8 games.

 

[boozeman]

Chances are we probably carry him on the roster rather than put on short term IR. That is risky, but it would be dumb to use it so soon.

 

[NoDak]

"Second, there's the Reserve/PUP (regular season PUP list). Any player starting on the Active PUP list (and has not practiced) with the team becomes eligible for the Reserve/PUP at the end of training camp. Once a player practices during training camp, all PUP list options are off the table. This is important to note. Both Lynch and Ramsey could be cleared within a day or two of the start of training camp, but starting them on the PUP list leaves it on the table as an option if there is a setback."

http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/7/18/5914295/nfl-pup-list-rules-injured-reserve-nfi-list-rules-49ers-2014

Huh. They were just talking about Lawrence being put on the reg pup on NFL radio. Go figure.

 

[boozeman]

Huh. They were just talking about Lawrence being put on the reg pup on NFL radio. Go figure.

They are wrong. If it were that easy, teams would be doing it left and right. Once camp begins, and the guy practices, PUP is not an option.

 

[ravidubey]

Not surprised at all. Undersized and physically weak is not a good combination for a starting NFL DE. Being a rookie thrown to the wolves makes it worse.

He's way out of his weight class given the demand that he play and start. Tyron Smith has gained nothing at all by practicing against him, and from Lawrence's perspective it must have been totally frustrating. It's inevitable that Smith would abuse him especially once he hit his first rookie wall.

Definitely kills the ridiculous "10 sack" shat right now.

 

[p1_]

Definitely kills the ridiculous "10 sack" shat right now.

That was pretty silly, even without the benefit of hindsight. He ate the cheese. Now look at him.

 

[boozeman]

Not surprised at all. Undersized and physically weak is not a good combination for a starting NFL DE. Being a rookie thrown to the wolves makes it worse.

He's way out of his weight class given the demand that he play and start. Tyron Smith has gained nothing at all by practicing against him, and from Lawrence's perspective it must have been totally frustrating. It's inevitable that Smith would abuse him especially once he hit his first rookie wall.

Definitely kills the ridiculous "10 sack" shat right now.

I knew you'd jump on the fact he's "undersized" and "physically weak".

 

[Carp]

That was pretty silly, even without the benefit if hindsight. He ate the cheese. Now look at him.

Yes...if he had not said it, he would have not gotten injured. Cheese cause broken feet.

 

[p1_]

Yes...if he had not said it, he would have not gotten injured. Cheese cause broken feet.

No causality theory. He should have gone the humble route; he's a rook replacing a first ballet Hall of Famer and franchise all-timer..

Save the bravado and unrealistic goals for another time. Really.

 

[Carp]

No causality theory. He should have gone the humble route; he's a rook replacing a first ballet Hall of Famer and franchise all-timer..

Save the bravado and unrealistic goals for another time. Really.

Feh. He sets goals for himself, not a bad thing to do.

 

[NoDak]

Feh. He sets goals for himself, not a bad thing to do.

Agreed. 10 sacks is a lofty goal for a rookie, but not unimaginable. It's not like he was spouting off about leading the league or breaking the single season record or some shit like that.

 

[p1_]

New goal: heal your foot as fast as possible.

 

[boozeman]

Agreed. 10 sacks is a lofty goal for a rookie, but not unimaginable. It's not like he was spouting off about leading the league or breaking the single season record or some shit like that.

It is a deal for guys when they walk into this culture we have. That won't change. If player after player after player does the same shit, it is not on them.

 

[Smitty]

Sad, but maybe it tempers expectations. To many, this guy is supposed to replace a Hall of Famer's production.

Lawrence will probably never be a year-in, year-out 14 sack guy. And he's a player I like a lot.

 

[Clay_Allison]

We didn't have huge expectations for the guy based on needing to put on weight etc. Now we just have to take this as a redshirt year and move on.

 

[Clay_Allison]

To answer [MENTION=10]Carp[/MENTION] 's question, Andre Carter is still out there and may have a few snaps left in him as a pass rush specialist. Besides that, we are probably looking at the waiver wire for the next Selvie.

 

[Bob Roberts]

So 10 sacks is some unrealistic goal now

 

[ravidubey]

I knew you'd jump on the fact he's "undersized" and "physically weak".

In this case the walking boot fits.

I mean, are you saying he's not undersized? Or that 20 bench press reps is not relatively weak?

 

[Jiggyfly]

In this case the walking boot fits.

I mean, are you saying he's not undersized? Or that 20 bench press reps is not relatively weak?

How does his bench press impact breaking a foot.?

 

[ravidubey]

How does his bench press impact breaking a foot.?

Unless he's some kind of freak or received very bad training, his arm strength is a good indicator of the rest of his body's strength.

So he's not big, not strong, and trying to out-muscle Tyron Smith. Sooner or later something had to give, and it was his foot. And it didn't just twist or sprain the damned thing broke.

A fluke is when you drop a weight on your toe and break it. This was no fluke.